How to 'force' new items to respawn?

[Dayzo 182]

Without server hopping, if you're disappointed with the loot at a fire station, supermarket, deer stand or whatever (I mean that you've had really bad luck so far and are desperate to find water, hatchet, assault rifle or tent), what is the best way of going back to the same spot and seeing new loot there?

For instance, could you clear some of the spawn points at the location of all the junk you don't want, then move 40m away and wait N minutes for the next spawn 'wave' or 'cycle'?

Or would you need to clear all of the spawn points at that location (Eg 24 at a supermarket) for that to work? Perhaps you would need to move 210m away and wait for the zombies to despawn before trying to approach the loot spot again?

Or maybe, you don't need to clear the loot spots at all, and only need to keep moving 210m away to repeatedly despawn the zombies before approaching the spot again?

I should mention that I've tried for some hours to work out the game's behaviour based on the information in the 'loot demystification' thread, but during the game I haven't been able to test it logically enough to give a clear answer. It seems to me, for instance, that after a server restart, the first times a spot is visited it spawns better loot, but on subsequent visits the loot gets worse and worse until the next restart. True or my imagination?

Thanks.

[voddler (DayZ) 367]

You can, remove all items walk away 200-300 meters, drop em all, then come back in 20 minutes I think it is. Though I don't think it's how it should work.

[Xuse 92]

The I way I do it is Remove all Loot. Walk 100m to 200m away go back. New Loot seems spawn that way

[mibz0r 141]

It doesn't get worse from my experience, it is random and I have had better gear from the second run than from the first more than once.

[LukUs 4]

YOu can remove all the loot that is currently there and move about 50m away and wait 5 mins and it will re spawn.

[CerebralZombie (DayZ) 151]

Hm...

I've heard of doing this, and I shall try it some time. =]

Edit:

YOu can remove all the loot that is currently there and move about 50m away and wait 5 mins and it will re spawn.

Damn! sounds worth trying even more now. :P

Edited September 28, 2012 by CerebralZombie

[SP45M 240]

No need to take the loot far away, just drop it outside the building. In large buildings there is no need to even take it outside, in industrial hangers for instance you can just pile all the loot in the middle. It seems to take about 10 minutes to respawn so generally I will look for a cluster of 3 or 4 buildings so by the time you have cycled all the loot the first one is respawning.

Using a tent, fireplace or zombie body to dispose of the loot is also handy.

Edited September 28, 2012 by SP45M

[Dayzo 182]

Thanks for the replies.

You all seem to be saying 'remove all loot'. Ever tried it just removing, say, half the loot in a supermarket?

It doesn't get worse from my experience, it is random and I have had better gear from the second run than from the first more than once.

The first two or three visits seems able to produce higher end loot. But I've repeated it ten or more times subsequently whilst experimenting, and I was just getting the lower end items every time, like I'd somehow exhausted the loot spot. Maybe it was just very bad luck.

You can, remove all items walk away 200-300 meters, drop em all, then come back in 20 minutes I think it is.

OK, so you despawn the zombies (I think it takes a couple of minutes once you move outside of the 200m radius)...

YOu can remove all the loot that is currently there and move about 50m away and wait 5 mins and it will re spawn.

... and you just move out of the 30m 'no spawn' perimeter.

I wonder if there is any difference in loot spawning behaviour between the two methods? For instance

It seems to take about 10 minutes to respawn

Before I've even finished clearing a supermarket of its rubbish, I've had loot spawn a couple of minutes later in the first spot that I cleared, and had to clear it again without even leaving the area (which I thought was impossible!). Then I thought I saw that loot was spawning in about 7-8 minute cycles. But then a lot of the time when experimenting I've had to wait 20 mins (<- maybe I had to wait two loot cycles, since the spot didn't spawn anything during the first?).

OK, so the method seems to be:

· remove all items from the location.

· loot other buildings for ten (one loot cycle) or twenty (two cycles) minutes before coming back.

· stay at least 30m away from the location before approaching again. It's not necessary to despawn the zombies (200m radius).

[SP45M 240]

If you see loot spawn in before you expected it there is good chance somebody else is in the area, I noted this several times in the last few days while holding the cherno church.

[mibz0r 141]

If you see loot spawn in before you expected it there is good chance somebody else is in the area, I noted this several times in the last few days while holding the cherno church.

THIS

[Sandwichx 103]

Why are you trying to use exploits to get loot? Just play the game like everyone else and stop trying to cheat.

[BryanDB91 2]

Why play a survival game if your gonna be a cheap little girl and ensure you get the best items at every spot. Defeats the entire point of this game. you are all pathetic

[mibz0r 141]

Oh so if I go into the supermarket and all I can find is trash because someone left all the crap he didn't want I'm not going to clear it out and see if I get some usable loot am I not?? also if you have 5-6 (or more) players in a group looting the airfield you have to clear trash so that all players get a fair chance at loot.

Truth be told I haven't done it in a while but for me moaning about something like this is as pathetic as you say the people who do it are.

[Sandwichx 103]

No, you shouldn't do that. It's an exploit. You live with what you get. Do you also combat log and ghost people? Because those are on the same level as this. As if you answered yes to that, then there's nothing we can do for you.

[pieflavor 38]

here's how it works: each building has designated loot pile spawns, with an associated chance to spawn it. when a player is within 200 m of the loot pile spawn, it rolls, if the player under 30m of the spawn point it won't spawn. It will also not spawn if there is already even a single item on that pile.

what people normally do is pile all the loot inside a tent they pitch inside the building, walk away 200m then wait 10 minutes and go back slowly (loot spawn every 10 minutes, except for crashed helicopters)

some servers a re shitty and won't spawn loot even if you were the first player to approach a building after a restart, it depends on the server, some spawn the items almost instantly, others have huge lag.

edit:

Why play a survival game

a survival game

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHHAAH

besides, who do you think you are to tell others how to play the game, let alone call them names?

I condone scavenging techniques like these, I also condone humanity farming, server hopping, thermal scopes, etc... it makes kids like these go apeshit, and gives you a different way of playing a sandbox game, different from what the young populace of DayZ would like to force everyone to play like.

Edited September 28, 2012 by Pie Flavor

[TheFrog (DayZ) 0]

Sense when is there anything fair in a Zombie Apocalypse.

[TheDesigner 1197]

You can make the loot pile anywhere, it doesn't have to be 200-300 meters away, it can be at the door. I do it at Stary and NWAF all the time. The wait can be 5 minutes sometimes.

[mio.rogvall@gmail.com 107]

You don't have to pick up and drop the loot when cycling. just shove the items in a full bag and it will be destroyed.

[pieflavor 38]

Sense when is there anything fair in a Zombie Apocalypse.

exactly, it's an unruled society, and that should translate even with matters outside of the game, and everyone telling anyone else what is right and what is wrong is simply a scrub who needs to put rules on a game without rules (nr 20 much?)

[mibz0r 141]

No, you shouldn't do that. It's an exploit. You live with what you get. Do you also combat log and ghost people? Because those are on the same level as this. As if you answered yes to that, then there's nothing we can do for you.

Combat logging and ghosting f**kin disgusts me to be quite honest.

[herrjon 478]

Well, the methodology has been explained well enough, so I'll get in on the discussion.

Aside from the fact that there is no rules in survival, there are drawbacks to this exploit, if you can call it that. Even if you're just dumping stuff in a tent, wiping a spawn takes time, plus the time it takes to leave and comeback. Unless you're in an empty server, spending all this time in hotspots (barracks, firehouse, market) will get you killed, because other players are looking for the exact same stuff you are. You also have to deal with zeds the entire time, which can become tiresome after the first couple of dumps.

It's a lot more risky than the laundry list of other exploits, that exclude scripting, in order to get or keep good gear. A majority of people get a good gun or gear, then use tents to make 5 more for their mates and now have an endless supply of endgame gear that they can have and use without fear of dying or even having to even loot at all. That's what you should be whining about, not people risking their neck dump a supermarket to get a map or some matches that had already gotten snatched up by the 20 other people that had already came through.

Edited September 28, 2012 by HerrJon

[Sandwichx 103]

exactly, it's an unruled society, and that should translate even with matters outside of the game, and everyone telling anyone else what is right and what is wrong is simply a scrub who needs to put rules on a game without rules (nr 20 much?)

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHHAAH

besides, who do you think you are to tell others how to play the game, let alone call them names?

I condone scavenging techniques like these, I also condone humanity farming, server hopping, thermal scopes, etc... it makes kids like these go apeshit, and gives you a different way of playing a sandbox game, different from what the young populace of DayZ would like to force everyone to play like.

With that kind of thinking, why don't we all just start hacking and turning the game into a giant hack fest? Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Exploiting a game through a mechanic that isn't meant to be exploited is playing the game. It's cheating the game. You claim there are no rules, and yet the creator of the game (the guy who runs everything) has set many rules against things like this. And what's this about young people trying to force people to play their way? That's just ignorant. In fact, from what I've seen, it's young players that play like you do more often. And just judging by what you type and how you type, I would say you are one of those young players. Or maybe you're 15 and you think you're old and everyone younger than you is a kid? Anyway, no matter what kind of justification you use, this is an exploit and is, more than likely, against the rules. I guess all we can hope for is that this is either fixed in the standalone, or they crack down more on people like you and start blacklisting players. And to preempt your question, no, I am not mad. Just disappointed that people like you exist.

[Dayzo 182]

No, you shouldn't do that. It's an exploit. You live with what you get.

Firstly, I mainly only do this when desperate for water or bandages and have been

especially unlucky. 'Farming' is not much fun and it spoils immersion, and I'd rather

be doing some sort of mission. In fact if you're farming a building, you're putting

yourself in greater danger of being spotted and shot, so it's not necessarily an

'easy option'.

Secondly, how do you determine the amount of time that is acceptable before going

back to a building to see if there is anything new there? Are you suggesting that

no-one should ever go back into a building during the same server session?

If you arbitrarily say something like one or two hours, aren't you doing the same

thing as me except just waiting longer? Why would you go back into a building at all

unless you were hoping for new spawn items? What difference does it make if it's

you who clears a building or someone else?

Lastly, doing a bit of farming is in the same category as pitching your tent underwater.

It doesn't affect anyone else directly, unlike ghosting and combat logging. If you were

meant to just accept whatever was in a building when you got there, then the game

would be designed that way - loot wouldn't respawn at all until a server restart (like

the heli crash sites).

[External89 21]

This is how you start :

- When you spawn don't care to much about dying!

- move to cherno or elektro first!

- Don't start crawling beeing stealth and shit jt run trough houses ( zombies will go really slow when you enter a building giving you plenty of time to pick everything up)

-One's on cherno or elektro be sure to check these 2 critical buildings ( Supermarket and hospital) , don't stay there for to long as they are desirable places for alot of people , and not everyone is friendly in this game.

-if you have done this correctly head north and enjoy the game !

Ps : you can also check more buildings in the big city's but this depends on how populated the server is .

Me and a friend started playing this last week and we were trying to be all stealth and shit first and avoid big city's , wich actually made the game harder. Then we decided to go to city in stealth but were quickly overrun by zombie's , then we decided to just run and loot fast ( done this 2 times now and we were very succesfull on loot)

[mibz0r 141]

This is how you start :

- When you spawn don't care to much about dying!

- move to cherno or elektro first!

- Don't start crawling beeing stealth and shit jt run trough houses ( zombies will go really slow when you enter a building giving you plenty of time to pick everything up)

-One's on cherno or elektro be sure to check these 2 critical buildings ( Supermarket and hospital) , don't stay there for to long as they are desirable places for alot of people , and not everyone is friendly in this game.

-if you have done this correctly head north and enjoy the game !

Ps : you can also check more buildings in the big city's but this depends on how populated the server is .

Me and a friend started playing this last week and we were trying to be all stealth and shit first and avoid big city's , wich actually made the game harder. Then we decided to go to city in stealth but were quickly overrun by zombie's , then we decided to just run and loot fast ( done this 2 times now and we were very succesfull on loot)

Captain obvious I believe