Was this kill justified? Did this count as self defense?

[Muncywolverine 236]

Ello - Wall of text inc,

So i'm running along the tree line near Prigordski heading to one of my camps, when i notice another player. It is dark out, but i can see with gamma cranked. It's a survivor armed with a hatchet.

After i noticed the hatchet i assumed he wasn't a thread. He was, after all, about 30 ft away from me. I say "Hey" through my mic, and "Ello" though direct communication.

I get no responce.

He starts running towards me. Not sprint running mind you, just jogging up to me.

I say through VOIP "Stop or your getting shot" and aim my AKS-74U at him. He doesn't stop.

I fire a small burst (3-4 bullets) and he collapses on the ground. At first i thought i hadn't killed him and was going to bandage, but then i heard flies. I guess i hit him in the head.

Apon inspecting his body he had Nightvision, a Rangefinder, and a radio. He had all this, but he was only armed with a hatchet. wtf?

I can only assume he was doing loot runs into Cherno or something and had his gear stashed at camp. I didn't check his backpack for fear he had a friend nearby.

About 20 seconds later i see "Player Derek has disconnected : Battleye Client not responding."

I guess he ragequit :(

Was i justified in this? He knew where i was, he had night vision. He was walking towards me with a hatchet. Perhaps he was playing Night-bandit madman? Or maybe he was just a friendly who had stashed his stuff and was searching for supplies?

You tell me.

[Orlyy (DayZ) 16]

If anything, I would have just see how close he got, if he got too close, then I would of shot him.

[son54 78]

Radio = Hacker

Unless you believe in the legends of green.... nevermind

[Orlyy (DayZ) 16]

Radio = Hacker

Unless you believe in the legends of green.... nevermind

I've found radio's off of bodies, and I picked it up, so obviously I was a hacker for having one. Oh...... Oh, wait.

[sostronk 334]

Completely justified. People need to learn to comm. He had no reason to continue in your direction except to grief/kill you if he wasn't communicating.

[sostronk 334]

I've found radio's off of bodies, and I picked it up, so obviously I was a hacker for having one. Oh...... Oh, wait.

They can be legitimitely found on Military Zombies near radio stations, IE green moutain.

[Orlyy (DayZ) 16]

They can be legitimitely found on Military Zombies near radio stations, IE green moutain.

I don't understand why you replied to me, as if I was being serious, or something.

[sostronk 334]

I don't understand why you replied to me, as if I was being serious, or something.

I assumed you were making the point that just because somebody has a radio, doesn't mean they are a hacker. I was reinforcing this point by saying that they can also be legitimately picked up so there is no relation between someone who has a radio and a hacker.

[Orlyy (DayZ) 16]

I assumed you were making the point that just because somebody has a radio, doesn't mean they are a hacker. I was reinforcing this point by saying that they can also be legitimately picked up so there is no relation between someone who has a radio and a hacker.

Ehhhhh, it should had been directed at the guy I had quoted :P

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

Radio = Hacker

Unless you believe in the legends of green.... nevermind

You've said to much already it heard you call its name

[bazbake 456]

Sounds like dude was loot farming (no equipment on him so he can fill his inventory without losing his good stuff) and decided to see if he could get your stuff too. No harm done, he'll just respawn.

External storage is awesome.

[Muncywolverine 236]

Sounds like dude was loot farming (no equipment on him so he can fill his inventory without losing his good stuff) and decided to see if he could get your stuff too. No harm done, he'll just respawn.

External storage is awesome.

Yeah this sounds about right. I frequently do this, i just don't do it with NVG's and Rangefinders equipped.

[Delta Smoke 01 765]

Sounds like dude was loot farming (no equipment on him so he can fill his inventory without losing his good stuff) and decided to see if he could get your stuff too. No harm done, he'll just respawn.

External storage is awesome.

In Pigorodski ? I doubt it. A fair kill to you OP. People often see a hatchet guy as as a none threat. Having used the hatchet to kill many a sniper and grieving bandit, i know how much of a threat they are if a guy gets the drop on you. That coupled with the fact you gave him a verbal warning and he pressed on, means you did the right thing. As to what he was doing, my conclusion is that he found those on a dead body perhaps. A check of the backpack could have confirmed this (if empty or useless gear).

[Atom Quark 437]

It is justified because you are still alive.

[Maxgor 2314]

I think it's justified. No response, came at you, and even if the hatchet isn't considered as threatening as a gun, if they get close enough and you aren't paying attention, they can be even deadlier than a gun. Anyone with any sort of smarts would know to not run up to a person wielding an axe and no communication and expect it to turn out well lol

[Maca (DayZ) 769]

You gave him the opportunity to communicate and in doing so showed your intentions as being friendly. Yet he decided on a course of action which forced your hand, so no doubt it was a justified kill...

[kryvian 123]

dude coming at you with an axe? without communicating in any way his intentions? I'd kill him any day.

[christopherwright_75@hotmail.co.uk 109]

Justified that axe is lethal up close better him laid out than you.

and radios are not legit

http://www.dayzwiki.com/wiki/Radio

quoted from Dayz Wiki

Radios are currently unable to be used or even obtained legitimately.

[Derpy_Hooves (DayZ) 4521]

Self defence.. you warned him and he proceeded, i would have dropped him too

[puppetworx 474]

You gave him warning, he made no effort to communicate his intentions before approaching, totally justified in a lawless world.

[Swineflew 480]

Who are you trying to justify your kill to and why?

[grubby 1]

You turned your gamma up, imo you cheated to get a kill and it should count as a bandit kill.

[Muncywolverine 236]

Who are you trying to justify your kill to and why?

I'm not honestly sure. I don't make it my mission to kill people, and i'm always interested in these sort of debates. "Should i have killed this guy"... It's just an interesting question to ponder.

You turned your gamma up, imo you cheated to get a kill and it should count as a bandit kill.

Well for what it's worth he had night vision and a hacked-in radio. It's not like you can see far with gamma cranked, you can just get your bearings. I should have seen that guy 200 yards out.

Edited September 28, 2012 by Muncywolverine