[admins/mods] please delete all topics concerning hacking/scripting

[Wabid Wabit 34]

I bet you're one of those people who "like" photos on facebook made by group pages.

"1 like = 1 prayer like if you cried every time"

:)

[Zombie Jesus 723]

Implied nothing was a statement of fact about this mod, nothing else. Would I love this.mod to be locked down, yes. Does ArmA2 allow the mod to be locked down, no. Whining about it now does nothing to.change that fact.

[sp86 508]

Implied nothing was a statement of fact about this mod, nothing else. Would I love this.mod to be locked down, yes. Does ArmA2 allow the mod to be locked down, no. Whining about it now does nothing to.change that fact.

It exerts commercial pressure via dissuading people from buying the end product. It's a good thing.

[kebman 213]

Problems

1. The devs really need to see just what a problem hacking is

2. Readers are fed up reading about stuff they already know

Solutions

1. is pretty darn important

2. is fixed by readers skipping the obvious hacker posts - I know this can be a dauting task for some, but...

2. can also be fixed by restricting where hacker-posts can be posted - to my knowledge there exists a sub-forum specifically for it

2. the hacker report sub-forum can be excluded from "new post" updates

Edited September 19, 2012 by kebman

[Maniacmike (DayZ) 24]

Anyone who writes about hackers on a forum after getting killed by one needs to go outside more. End of.

[sp86 508]

Anyone who comes to a video game forum and derides people discussing topics of relevance to that video game needs to go to a dark place and self-copulate.

[Zombie Jesus 723]

It exerts commercial pressure via dissuading people from buying the end product. It's a good thing.

Since this is not the end product I would say you are doing so without enough information to call that product defective. You could have patience and wait for that product to be released, or you can continue making false assumptions based on a mod the creators know is deeply flawed.

[sp86 508]

Making judgements based on a pattern of behavior is completely reasonable, hence my saying so.

Assuming that I'm only talking about the mod is unreasonable, the engine has been on market for 3 years.

[Zombie Jesus 723]

Making judgements based on a pattern of behavior is completely reasonable, hence my saying so.

Assuming that I'm only talking about the mod is unreasonable, the engine has been on market for 3 years.

I get the concern and im trying not ti be too big of a dick, but you are still complaining about an issue that is well known and is outside the control of this game's developers. Counter strike started out as a hacker paradise as have other games, I posted a very detailed response I got from rocket about this very issue. So what part of that response sounds like they are not taking this issue seriously? I suspect that you want the something that is impossible, you want the current mod to be hacker free and despite being told numerous times that is a pipe dream you still expect it to happen.

Edit: this is a dayz conversation and the mod was never expected to generate this level of interest. I think it ia fair to reserve judgement on THIS project until an actual version comes out. I understand if you are worried about their track record, but you are making wild assumptions about a product you have never used. I hope they address a great deal of the hacking problem, but until it is actually released I feel like these threads are becoming a broken record.

We get it, the mod is infested with hackers and unfortunately it can not be addressed until standalone.

Edited September 19, 2012 by Zombie Jesus

[sp86 508]

I get the concern and im trying not ti be too big of a dick, but you are still complaining about an issue that is well known and is outside the control of this game's developers. Counter strike started out as a hacker paradise as have other games, I posted a very detailed response I got from rocket about this very issue. So what part of that response sounds like they are not taking this issue seriously? I suspect that you want the something that is impossible, you want the current mod to be hacker free and despite being told numerous times that is a pipe dream you still expect it to happen.

I mentioned that these threads generate negative press, which in turn might dissuade potential buyers, which in turn translates into market pressure to fix the problem. I was stating an analysis of the situation not a grievance.

Edited September 19, 2012 by sp86

[Zombie Jesus 723]

I mentioned that these threads generate negative press, which in turn might dissuade potential buyers, which in turn translates into market pressure to fix the problem. I was stating an analysis of the situation not a grievance.

Ok, I now understand, you are just bitching despite knowing the developers are already working on the issue. You are pretty much exhibit A in any discussion on why testing versions should always be closed, at least I now understand so I can stop engaging you like a rational person.

[sp86 508]

Ok, I now understand, you are just bitching despite knowing the developers are already working on the issue. You are pretty much exhibit A in any discussion on why testing versions should always be closed, at least I now understand so I can stop engaging you like a rational person.

Dunning-Kruger.

[Zombie Jesus 723]

Over it, your points are well thought out and valid good sir. We should all read the endless amount of hacker threads and be glad people want to share their stories.

Edited September 19, 2012 by Zombie Jesus

[sp86 508]

Too funny idiot, save the freshman year psychobabble bullshot for someone who did not grow up in a house with to psychologists. Have fun in psychology 101 you entitled child.

One: I'm 26.

Two: I can spell two.

Three: I know the difference between griping and analysis.

Four: I know what I'm talking about.

Five:

[Zombie Jesus 723]

Over it, your points are well thought out and valid good sir. We should all read the endless amount of hacker threads and be glad people want to share their stories.

Edited September 19, 2012 by Zombie Jesus

[sp86 508]

Here's where you fucked up, you keep assume I'm talking about myself, instead of underlining the fact that these complaints about hackers may ultimately be beneficial in that they convince other people to withhold their money until the game is properly secured.

And you're not lying, you're only being intellectually dishonest about what I'm arguing, hence my accusation that you're arguing from illusory competence.

I live in the real world, and in the real world people are judged by the results of their labor. For example, you can't read, BI can't write robust code and I'm kind of an asshole.

[Zombie Jesus 723]

Over it, your points are well thought out and valid good sir. We should all read the endless amount of hacker threads and be glad people want to share their stories.

Edited September 19, 2012 by Zombie Jesus

[sp86 508]

Repeating your points doesn't make them any more applicable to my original statement. My concerns were never a topic of discussion, my only point was regarding the thousands of threads reporting and complaining about hackers, and the dozens more that pop up daily and the effect they might have on a prospective buyer. This is irrelevant of the actual reality of the situation as I've said previously in the thread.

Maybe you can have one of your psychologist parents explain to you the reality vs. perception disconnect, and when you do you can come back and we can have a discussion on its marketing implications. :)

[Zombie Jesus 723]

Over it, your points are well thought out and valid good sir. We should all read the endless amount of hacker threads and be glad people want to share their stories.

Edited September 19, 2012 by Zombie Jesus

[sp86 508]

I said you were arguing from ignorance once (implied really). It's not something you can make up guy, I can click (2) and see it for myself. I restated my point, and posited that you were, in fact, mad. I'm sorry that mommy and daddy think you're a disappointment, but it doesn't make me a basement dweller (I can post from my 9 to 5 job) and it doesn't make you right.

:)

But since you're too stupid to read subtext, allow me to state plainly, I think they are taking the issue seriously, but the perception that they're not could cost them marketshare, thus ensuring that they either put up or shut up.

[Lupin-III 44]

If I were a new player thinking of buying ARMA 2 to play DayZ, and came on here and saw all the threads about hacking... there's no fucking way in hell I would open my wallet for the game.

The threads should stay to save potential new players the frustration of having to deal with the bullshit that ALL OF US are feeling at this point.

[S1ippery Jim 139]

Well, no. the problem itself is being able to hack.

I'm sure other forums would allow threads discussing hack issues if they were as rampant as DayZ's scripters are.

But which games do they not allow hack threads? if it's something like counter-strike, not the best example.

Wrong, wrong wrong.

Discussion is about hacking threads not hacking itself, everyone knows that is an issue.

Reddit does not allow hacking threads, as I stated, for the reasons I stated

For Gods sake get some comprehension skills before trying to make a counter argument.

[Red_Sky 140]

Wrong, wrong wrong.

Discussion is about hacking threads not hacking itself, everyone knows that is an issue.

Reddit does not allow hacking threads, as I stated, for the reasons I stated

For Gods sake get some comprehension skills before trying to make a counter argument.

Yes I know that hacking itself is an obvious issue which is why I'm pointing it out.

It's not the threads which encourage hacking, its the obvious fact that Arma II is so vulnerable to scripts.

Well yes threads do encourage to an extent but once the knowledge of the effort needed to use scripts in DayZ is found (which were in our faces long before threads were)

the threads' effects to encourage are minuscule compared to it.

The only reason they should exist now is to present the current state of DayZ to would-be buyers.

Edit: Calm down, I swear everyone on this forum is on steroids or some shit.

Edited September 20, 2012 by Red_Sky

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

To get back to the OP which was about hacking threads not the hacking itself, essentially I agree with him/her. I've locked (not deleted or hidden, which is important to note) more threads on the subject than I care to remember. I have an inbox full of hate mail and WarZ bollocks to prove it. I've also been accused many times of censorship or trying to brush the problem under the carpet. Multiple threads on the same subject achieve nothing. They dilute the subject entirely and get lost in the mass of posts. This means it's highly unlikely that a dev will take the time to trawl through those posts. It would carry much more weight as a subject if there were a few good threads with hundreds of responses on them. This would draw much more attention from either new players or the devs who read the forums frequently. This applies to any topic. That's why we always suggest adding to threads on any given subject or doing a quick search before opening a new thread. It makes the forums a lot easier to navigate and concentrates discussion in the correct way which is in everyone's interests.