yorre1991 0 Posted September 17, 2012 Yesterday I was able to play. Today every server I try to join gives me this message. Battleye: Admin Ban W4d9b2182 0x0f44d938I googled and forum browsed a bit. And it appears I have been banned? Strange, since I don't think I've been doing anything naughty. Now I'd like to start appealing my ban, but for that you need something called a "guid" or something. Where do I find this if I can't even get on a server? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK Richie 507 Posted September 17, 2012 You've proberbly been added to the so called community ban list :rolleyes:A bunch of server admins have decided they know best and servers running this list will have you removed instantly.See here for more info > http://code.google.com/p/dayz-community-banlist/Personally i think it's a load of shite and all the contacts are @gmail so i doubt it's official or i'd expect to see @dayzmod.com email addys.Don't give them any private or personal information.It's been running for weeks and nobody has noticed any drop on script kiddies, only drop seems to be in Dayz players :rolleyes: Great community ban list 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pvtjace 37 Posted September 17, 2012 Your GUID is your game id. Means you have been banned.If its not global ban then your only banned from certain servers.Not accusing but, I highly doubt playing dumb and appealing will get your account back. You have probably downloaded something which didnt work for you.And that program has sent your details back to someone to use as their own lil hack account. Battleye sent warnings about this happening.Thats about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cwc_shadow 70 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) You've proberbly been added to the so called community ban list :rolleyes:A bunch of server admins have decided they know best and servers running this list will have you removed instantly.See here for more info > http://code.google.c...munity-banlist/Personally i think it's a load of shite and all the contacts are @gmail so i doubt it's official or i'd expect to see @dayzmod.com email addys.Don't give them any private or personal information.It's been running for weeks and nobody has noticed any drop on script kiddies, only drop seems to be in Dayz players :rolleyes: Great community ban listMaybe not on servers not running the CBL banlist, but on our server we have seen a lot improvement since we use it. Sure there might be a few false positives from time to time, but those bans get removed without a problem. Since we use filters and the banlist from CBL, we have around 80% less hackers than before and I think that speaks for the CBL.BTW: It might not be 100% official, but a DayZ Dev is working for the CBL and they at least get something done about the hacker problem while reporting them here on the forum is like writing a letter and send it to the moon: pointless. Edited September 17, 2012 by System98 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK Richie 507 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) we have around 80% less hackers than before and I think that speaks for the CBL.Show me proof ? otherwise see below :) Edited September 17, 2012 by PK Richie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorre1991 0 Posted September 17, 2012 can't wait till this mod becomes a standalone game... thanks for the information though guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorre1991 0 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) Maybe not on servers not running the CBL banlist, but on our server we have seen a lot improvement since we use it. Sure there might be a few false positives from time to time, but those bans get removed without a problem. Since we use filters and the banlist from CBL, we have around 80% less hackers than before and I think that speaks for the CBL.BTW: It might not be 100% official, but a DayZ Dev is working for the CBL and they at least get something done about the hacker problem while reporting them here on the forum is like writing a letter and send it to the moon: pointless.we'll, get me unbanned then? =s ffsc5a35ecfae87ebe72aa5439ea5897c90 -1 W 4d9b2182 0x0f44d938^ this is me apparantly Edited September 17, 2012 by yorre1991 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorre1991 0 Posted September 17, 2012 Your GUID is your game id. Means you have been banned.If its not global ban then your only banned from certain servers.Not accusing but, I highly doubt playing dumb and appealing will get your account back. You have probably downloaded something which didnt work for you.And that program has sent your details back to someone to use as their own lil hack account. Battleye sent warnings about this happening.Thats about it.the only thing i downloaded is the sixlauncher -.- i bought my game from steam (the arma 2 pack). I'm not playing dumb, i just didn't do anything wrong! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cwc_shadow 70 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) @PK Richie: Why should I? Did you give any proof that the CBL doesn't work on servers who have it installed? Did you even try it out on a server you own or are you just jumping to conclusions because the servers you play on still have dozens of skiddies online and probably not even use the CBL (wow, surprise it's not helping then *hurr durr*)?If you want to keep playing on servers without the CBL, but with tons of unbanned hackers, do so! If you run a server without CBL I somehow pity your users as over 1.200 hackers that haven't yet been BE banned can do whatever they like on there, but that's not my problem. :POn our server the usage of the CBL Fitlers who fix the biggest security holes, that are often used by hackers, stopped a lot of them before they could start to mess around with stuff. In combination with DayZ AntiHax the blatant obvious hackers are even banned on the spot without me having to do anything additional thus protecting our legit users. That saves me a lot of time to look into the more complicated cases. We had around 10 different hackers a day previously that had to be banned manually. Now around 2 who need to be banned manually. So it's a reduction of around 80% (plus/minus a bit depending on day or weekend). 8 stopped hackers each day is a good enough reason for me to use the CBLs banlist and filters. ;)@yorre1991: I'm not a responsible from CBL so I can't do anything to lift your ban. Go to the CBL website and write your ban appeal there in the "Issues" section. Then they will take a look into the data again. Edited September 17, 2012 by System98 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorre1991 0 Posted September 17, 2012 @PK Richie: Why should I? Did you give any proof that the CBL doesn't work on servers who have it installed? Did you even try it out on a server you own or are you just jumping to conclusions because the servers you play on still have dozens of skiddies online and probably not even use the CBL (wow, surprise it's not helping then *hurr durr*)?If you want to keep playing on servers without the CBL, but with tons of unbanned hackers, do so! If you run a server without CBL I somehow pity your users as over 1.200 hackers that haven't yet been BE banned can do whatever they like on there, but that's not my problem. :POn our server the usage of the CBL Fitlers who fix the biggest security holes, that are often used by hackers, stopped a lot of them before they could start to mess around with stuff. In combination with DayZ AntiHax the blatant obvious hackers are even banned on the spot without me having to do anything additional thus protecting our legit users. That saves me a lot of time to look into the more complicated cases. We had around 10 different hackers a day previously that had to be banned manually. Now around 2 who need to be banned manually. So it's a reduction of around 80% (plus/minus a bit depending on day or weekend). 8 stopped hackers each day is a good enough reason for me to use the CBLs banlist and filters. ;)@yorre1991: I'm not a responsible from CBL so I can't do anything to lift your ban. Go to the CBL website and write your ban appeal there in the "Issues" section. Then they will take a look into the data again.clearly it doesn't work as it should Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cwc_shadow 70 Posted September 17, 2012 As I said, there might be false positives every once in a while. But IMHO better ban a handful innocent players than to not ban thousand definite hackers. If your ban was an error, it will be removed after reviewing the logs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK Richie 507 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) As I said, there might be false positives every once in a while. But IMHO better ban a handful innocent players than to not ban thousand definite hackers. If your ban was an error, it will be removed after reviewing the logs.You hide behind your unofficial super duper ban list and think it's perfectly fine that innocent people get blocked :oPeople who pay good money to play a game and you think removing them is fine ?You're a fucking idiot :lol: [user warned. -Max] Edited September 17, 2012 by Max Planck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erocker 87 Posted September 17, 2012 You hide behind your unofficial super duper ban list and think it's perfectly fine that innocent people get blocked :oPeople who pay good money to play a game and you think removing them is fine ?You're a fucking idiot :lol:...and you're a hacker/script kiddie. Not only that, you're definitely going about this wrong. Calling people f*cking idiots won't get you unbanned. It is obvious you're just the type of person who hacks. Goodbye and good riddance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cwc_shadow 70 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) @PK Richie: You are a funny person and either obviously have no idea about how CBL works, any experience with it or you just are ignorant and [insert whatever you think fits best here]. I guess you are just one of those guys that likes to comlain. What about the 90+% of players who ALSO payed good money to play a game without getting killed 24/7 by cheaters, hackers and idiots who can't play the game for shizzle and start to use scripts? Oh sure, you don't give a fudge obviously.Let's take a real-life example: Every day inncocent people get sentenced to jail (or even worse!) by courts all over the world. Is that a reason why we should get rid of courts and our law-system? Hell no! Because it guarantess that most of the guys getting caught can't molest the majority of humanity that don't act like a douche, at least for a certain period of time. A world without any laws and someone who enforces them would be even worse than DayZ is simulating right now! PvP all over the way, just without Zombies. BE is also banning innocents by false detections sometimes, should we get rid of it too? Both would be like opening the box of pandora. It would be hacker-heaven!If you want to play DayZ on servers full of hackers, cheaters and script kiddies, go ahead! But then don't ever come to this very Forum to complain about that. I for my part decided I better work on making DayZ a better experience for all the legit & fair players out there by submitting caught cheaters to the CBL instead of hiding behind excuses to let them rampage as they like.Yes, I might also make a mistake and ban an innocent player. Nobody is perfect! If someone appeals, asks to review his ban and I come to the conclusion that it might be indeed a mistake or a false detection by the anti-cheat scripts, I will say "sorry" and remove the ban. As CBL does too by the way!Interestingly none of the teleport-cheaters, invisible-dudes or Cherno-Nukers I banned ever asked to lift a ban on our clan-server. As BTW neither did anyone I banned or submitted to the CBL until now.Some of the guys getting banned on CBL got detected by super-nervous anti-cheat scripts. But CBL is pretty new and so it's in a very early development stage - like DayZ - and some errors might be amde from time to time. But that is no excuse to not do anything about the problem at all and arguing that a few innocent guys might also be banned is a small price to pay if in the same run literally thousands of real hackers get kicked out of the servers as well. The error percentage on the CBL is very low as you can see by the ammount of appeals compared to the submitted cheats. This doesn't even take into account the cheats and hacks that are prevented by CBL and it's scripts, but not submitted to the CBL by some admins, because they are too lazy or just don't care.Anyways, it's clear that you are that kind of person that has made up his mind anyways. In another thread you complained that skiddies ruined this mod, yet when there is a chance to do something about it you point fingers, because accidently some innocent guys might get banned too. Interestingly you also complained about the strict server rules of DayZ and that you can't do whatever you want on a server (like ban whoever you want?). Make up your mind!Personally I prefer using a system that keeps a great ammount of those idiots out of my server. I'm sorry for the few people that might be on the list for false positives, but they can be removed and the wrong positives will be noted and those mistakes won't be made in the future. But the other side would be to not use CBL, let thousands of skiddies extra on the CBL-servers where they can can then ruin the fun for ten thousands or even hundreds of thousand other players. No thank you!I'm done with my rant speech now. I'll just stop talking to you from now on. Keep pointing fingers if that makes you happy, but never complain again about skiddies ruining DayZ. With guys like you, who only complain, never actually try to improve anything and point fingers when someone else does, you are really helping the community! [/irony] ;) Edited September 17, 2012 by System98 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK Richie 507 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) ...and you're a hacker/script kiddie. Not only that, you're definitely going about this wrong. Calling people f*cking idiots won't get you unbanned. It is obvious you're just the type of person who hacks. Goodbye and good riddance.I'm not the person that has been banned :lol: Try reading previous replies before typing garbage :rolleyes:My game ID is fine and i don't need to cheat.@PK Richie: You are a funny person and either obviously have no idea about how CBL works, any experience with it or you just are ignorant and [insert whatever you think fits best here]. I guess you are just one of those guys that likes to comlain. What about the 90+% of players who ALSO payed good money to play a game without getting killed 24/7 by cheaters, hackers and idiots who can't play the game for shizzle and start to use scripts? Oh sure, you don't give a fudge obviously.I couldn't be bothered to quote the whole reply but you miss my point and why i called you an idiot, My point is that you think it's perfectly ok to ban someone and for them to be collateral damage ? So basically you're just as bad as the scripters because your input has stopped and is stopping legit players from playing ... you ruined his gaming experience just like script kiddies do :huh: but you don't care cause you do it for the greater good of all and that makes it all ok ?and please stop making up facts and random percentages :lol: 80% reduction and 90%+ of players :lol: You're an idiot[user warned, again. -Max] Edited September 18, 2012 by Max Planck Better stop with the insults now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treshold82 28 Posted September 17, 2012 People submitting to CBL should do more groundwork - there is little bit clutter because people doesn't understand fully what they are doing and they just blindly read remoteexec.log + createvehicle.log...I have seen there legit heli crashes logged as hackers :D And by that I mean the 3 line BIS-stuff on remoteexec.log for example... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Z 51 Posted September 17, 2012 Honestly, this community ban list sounds like an awful thing. From what I have read, it is actually hard as hell to get removed if it is a false positive, and a ton of servers use it. I would hate to have to spend $30 on a new copy just because some butthurt admin managed to convince whoever edits the list that I was hacking.Criminal justice systems all around the world are modeled on the idea that it is better to let 10 guilty go than to punish 1 innocent. This list is pretty much the opposite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belisk 0 Posted September 18, 2012 Show me proof ? otherwise see below :)Your evidence is anecdotal, all evidence will be. Nobody will follow the scientific process to deliver statistical accuracy. From my perspective the CBL has made a difference, although not to the extent I would like. If I had to guess a percentage I would say 20% less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belisk 0 Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) Honestly, this community ban list sounds like an awful thing. From what I have read, it is actually hard as hell to get removed if it is a false positive, and a ton of servers use it. I would hate to have to spend $30 on a new copy just because some butthurt admin managed to convince whoever edits the list that I was hacking.It is far from ideal, however basically scripting has gotten to the point of destroying the game for anyone who does not use it. If official means were more effective than this would be unnecessary, furthermore, the criminal justice systems locks innocent people up on occasions because people (jury and the Judge) are fallible. In terms of this situation admins can make a mistake and some may abuse it. However, it is not a significant enough reason to blame admins who are resisting a torrent of abuse and doing the job of protecting against scripting that a professional group should be doing. Alas, free mod and all.The lesser of two evils, run the risk of banning innocent people will appropriate review processes or let everyone script because it has been shown that it is impossible to stop all scripters at this time. Edited September 18, 2012 by Belisk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
venthos 605 Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) I would hate to have to spend $30 on a new copy just because some butthurt admin managed to convince whoever edits the list that I was hacking.Good news, because it requires SEVERAL independent incidents from independent "butt hurt admins" with convincing log data to get you on the list. Further, since it's community run you have a better shot at being able to get someone's ear (vs. global bans) and trying to get a second chance.I see the OP has already posted to the CBL literally saying "fuck you" to its maintainers with the excuse that they paid $30 therefore they should never be banned ever. This should be interesting to see how it pans out. Edited September 18, 2012 by Venthos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK Richie 507 Posted September 18, 2012 Good news, because it requires SEVERAL independent incidents from independent "butt hurt admins" with convincing log data to get you on the list. Further, since it's community run you have a better shot at being able to get someone's ear (vs. global bans) and trying to get a second chance.I see the OP has already posted to the CBL literally saying "fuck you" to its maintainers with the excuse that they paid $30 therefore they should never be banned ever. This should be interesting to see how it pans out.So posting peoples appeals is not something that you think should be confidential ? very unprofesionalI see no terms and conditions that specify people have to lick the CBL arseholes to get unbanned :rolleyes: If he was wrongly placed on the list he should be removed immediately no matter what his/her attitude.This unofficial vigilante squad should put their pitch folks down and let the peoples whos job it is to stop scripters do their job !If you had crime in your neighbourhood do you think the police or governments would encourange your little vigilante mob ? oops a few innocents were caught up in it aswell, but hey so fuck it's for the greater good of all :lol:CBL should be stopped by Rocket and his team or make it official, even 1 innocent person banned is too many. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boneboys 7988 Posted September 18, 2012 http://dayzmod.com/f...al-ban-appeals/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boneboys 7988 Posted September 18, 2012 Message sent to OP.Thread remains locked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites