US 1992 - Admin ban abuse

[(OCN)xXxALLANxXx 17]

Ever go on OCN TS3, it's like a bunch of racist treenagers and 20 somethings. I was there for 5 minutes and left, deleting my ocn ts bookmark, never wanting to go back!

I'd like to know when this was and who if you could message me. We don't allow this type of behavior or type of language on any of our servers or teamspeak.

[TruYadoo 36]

I'd like to know when this was and who if you could message me. We don't allow this type of behavior or type of language on any of our servers or teamspeak.

Allan, go ahead and investigate but I personally think pdxmark is full of it. I've heard SOME "slightly" inappropriate INSIDE jokes but never anything full blown inappropriate like racism, sexism, etc. I doubt he ever joined our TS3 server in the first place

[Anarki (DayZ) 13]

Ohhh, would you look at that :)

I got here by chance, and I must say, being an Overclock site user for the past 4-5 years, I totally understand why they run some things like this.

The thing is, back on overclock.net, the mods are pretty tight. If someone posts a game trailer in the news forum and you say it sucks, your post is deleted and you're issued a warning.

It's a bit (ok, quite a bit) of a fascist way of running things, but you know, it's a tough life out there. Us Day Z players should know.

If you don't like it just change the server. It's one of the reasons why I have no interest in playing on Overclock servers :)

If you have seen Equilibrium movie, you'll know exactly what I mean.

[Chris529 380]

uhh so he logs in with satchel charges, blows some buildings up and gets banned because while he was setting the charges, he picked them back up and it showed up in logs. No actual proof other than logs showing he picked up satchels which was confirmed by someone else I read here can be recreated by placing then disarming satchels.

How is that fair?

also when he asked why he was banned nobody actually just replied with a straight answer "you were banned for *****" if you gave him a straight answer he wouldnt have to ask over and over.

I dont think you can ban someone for having hacked gear on public hive and there is no solid, certain evidence he spawned those satchels in so what the hell?

[Core618 11]

almost 2 months later this is still going on? Holy Crap!

Give it up people... if you don't like the way a server is run, don't play on it.

Last time I checked there were plenty of other servers out there.

I've got no stake in this thread, other than the fact that I deal witht he same crap now and then. I ban someone, and have to listen to other people bitch and moan about how I choose to handle things. In my case, it's a private hive, and I feel free to point them to the public servers.

Let OCN do what they want with their servers, just don't play on them if you don't like the way they handle them, pretty simple really.

The OP is on my ban list as well - I can't even remember what for now, not from CBL, it's my own entry, and a generic not labeling him as a 'Skiddie' so he did something on my old public server, and I'm fairly sure OCN got it right when they banned him.

[rawrerz 5]

Why was I banned?

Edit: I would also like to add during the time I was actively responding I private messaged all the forum admins I could find along with rocket directly about this issue multiple times with the only (1) response coming from a forum mod saying "I approved your thread, I don't know what happens with server reports though, if anything at all." Also in hindsight I should have not amused the abusive overclock admins by trying to jump through their hoops to defend myself. This is not a issue about me, its an issue with the very clear and precise rules of running a public hive being broken along with highly hypocritical behavior enacted upon what is now countless players. This post does nothing more but to show the incompetency of the admins running these servers on so many levels and the uselessness of the rules rocket and his team was supposed to be enforcing. So in the end I am still banned (don't know about server but CBL) and these abusive admins were never even looked at or asked by an "authority" to prove their claims or explain their position after they have flat out refused to do so. I feel betrayed by the higher ups in this community, not because I personally wasn't tended to, but because this is some behavior one would expect from a well known "competing" brand.

Edit2: Also why is it not a big deal I was told that to appeal my public hive ban I had to post over on overclock.net?

Edited January 2, 2013 by rawrerz

[(OCN)Vortech 65]

The thing is, back on overclock.net, the mods are pretty tight. If someone posts a game trailer in the news forum and you say it sucks, your post is deleted and you're issued a warning.

It's a bit (ok, quite a bit) of a fascist way of running things, but you know, it's a tough life out there. Us Day Z players should know.

If you don't like it just change the server. It's one of the reasons why I have no interest in playing on Overclock servers :)

If you have seen Equilibrium movie, you'll know exactly what I mean.

I'm sorry you feel that way about how forum moderation is handled and I will gladly pass your opinions on to the appropriate staff. As a Gamserver Administrator for OCN I assure you that we manage things a little differently. I doubt you would ever develop the same opinion after an evening with us on TS3, we're a smart tech-oriented bunch who thuroughly enjoy PC gaming. Overclock.net provides us the ability to manage these services on behalf of the community, we're grateful to them, but most importantly we're grateful to our fellow forum brothers and sisters.

uhh so he logs in with satchel charges, blows some buildings up and gets banned because while he was setting the charges, he picked them back up and it showed up in logs. No actual proof other than logs showing he picked up satchels which was confirmed by someone else I read here can be recreated by placing then disarming satchels.

How is that fair?

also when he asked why he was banned nobody actually just replied with a straight answer "you were banned for *****" if you gave him a straight answer he wouldnt have to ask over and over.

I dont think you can ban someone for having hacked gear on public hive and there is no solid, certain evidence he spawned those satchels in so what the hell?

You might have missed the OPs first thread and one of my replies (http://dayzmod.com/f..._20#entry842102). Beyond that I think answers to all your other questions have been covered.

The OP is on my ban list as well - I can't even remember what for now, not from CBL, it's my own entry, and a generic not labeling him as a 'Skiddie' so he did something on my old public server, and I'm fairly sure OCN got it right when they banned him.

I appreciate you sharing that information here with everyone.

Edit2: Also why is it not a big deal I was told that to appeal my public hive ban I had to post over on overclock.net?

Wow.. You were directed to Overclock.net to appeal your local ban with our servers. If appealed and reversed we would request the CBL submission be disregarded as the matter would have been resolved. In your case, the matter was not resolved and the local ban stood. I then instructed you to appeal the CBL submission as if determined a violation by them you risk being banned on more servers. Glad we could sort that out, again. :thumbsup:

Edited January 3, 2013 by (OCN)Vortech

[Chris529 380]

Vortech, how many pipe bombs are here:

2012/09/09, 9:17:53 "STARTING LOGIN: ["52538822",B 1-1-A:21 (rawrerz) REMOTE]"

2012/09/09, 9:17:53 "LOGIN ATTEMPT: "52538822" rawrerz"

2012/09/09, 9:17:54 "Locality Event"

2012/09/09, 9:17:54 "Locality Event"

2012/09/09, 9:17:54 "READ/WRITE: ['PASS',false,'31842277',[135,[6849.7,2499.87,0.754579]],[["FN_FAL","glock17_EP1","ItemFlashlight","ItemKnife","ItemHatchet","ItemRadio"],["FoodCanFrankBeans","ItemSodaCoke",["20Rnd_762x51_FNFAL",19],"20Rnd_762x51_FNFAL","20Rnd_762x51_FNFAL","20Rnd_762x51_FNFAL","PipeBomb","PipeBomb","PipeBomb","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","ItemBandage","ItemBandage","ItemBandage","ItemBandage"]],["DZ_Backpack_EP1",[[],[]],[["PipeBomb"],[12]]],[22,51,51],Camo1_DZ,0.96]"

2012/09/09, 9:17:54 "LOGIN LOADED: B 1-1-A:21 (rawrerz) REMOTE Type: Survivor1_DZ"

2012/09/09, 9:17:54 "Locality Event"

2012/09/09, 9:17:54 "WRITE: ['PASS']"

2012/09/09, 9:17:54 Server: Object 44:6 not found (message 94)

2012/09/09, 9:17:54 "READ/WRITE: ['PASS',[false,false,false,false,false,false,false,12000,[],[0.0659969,0],0,[614.969,554.162]],[0,0,0,0],["glock17_EP1","amovppnemstpsraswpstdnon",42],[135,[6849.7,2499.87,0.754579]],-70593]"

2012/09/09, 9:17:54 "LOGIN PUBLISHING: B 1-3-K:1 (rawrerz) REMOTE Type: Camo1_DZ"

also want to know what you think the following means.

09.09.2012 09:18:28: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:25 44:4 [6850,2499,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:18:39: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:26 44:4 [6851,2508,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:18:50: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:35 44:4 [6862,2498,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:19:03: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:45 44:4 [6869,2503,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:19:09: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:46 44:4 [6872,2493,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:19:20: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:47 44:4 [6864,2485,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:19:37: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:49 44:4 [6863,2496,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:21:27: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:51 44:4 [6902,2492,10] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:24:27: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:52 44:4 [6671,2305,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:24:34: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:54 44:4 [6688,2304,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:25:17: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:59 44:4 [6549,2309,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:26:11: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:66 44:4 [6587,2385,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:26:18: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:67 44:4 [6596,2394,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:26:52: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:71 44:4 [6563,2414,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:27:11: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:73 44:4 [6577,2411,6] [0,0,0]

09.09.2012 09:27:17: rawrerz (72.204.112.18:2324) 062ed693052c291dd98e7b6500d6c6f1 - #0 "PipeBomb" 44:74 44:4 [6568,2418,6] [0,0,0]

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

Edit2: Also why is it not a big deal I was told that to appeal my public hive ban I had to post over on overclock.net?

I wouldn't waste your time going to their forums. Just keep posting on these forums. That way you know you'll never be censored and other people can see exactly how these guys operate. I looked around to see if there was a rule about ban appeals only being on these forums but I found nothing about it.

Vortec, can you explain to us what rawrerz had in his 30 slot backpack when he joined?

["DZ_Backpack_EP1",[[],[]],[["PipeBomb"],[12]]]

Seems like 12 sachel charges to me, but you're so damn sure of yourself, I must be misinterpreting the logs..

[GtaSoldierBoy 11]

Well you had an item which was very rare might of been accident.

[Chris529 380]

Seems like 12 sachel charges to me, but you're so damn sure of yourself, I must be misinterpreting the logs..

yeah 12 in his backpack and 3 in inventory. No idea how anyone could miss that let alone an admin.

[lunchboxcharlie 19]

I know what servers to NOT play on now. The admins of this server obviously can't read.

Sounds to me after reading this, is that the admins were just pissed off because they got their shit blown up. Seriously, it's a game bro. Don't get pissed when someone trumps you and ban them and call it 'duping'. It's very bad form.

But yeah, not going to any OCN servers.

Edited January 4, 2013 by LunchboxCharlie

[blunt_zephyr 51]

Meh. I've played on this server plenty of times with no aboose-issue, what so-ever with the OCN Admins.

Perhaps, if you play on thier servers instead of glancing-over some others opinion, you'd probably agree. ;)

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

Meh. I've played on this server plenty of times with no aboose-issue, what so-ever with the OCN Admins.

Perhaps, if you play on thier servers instead of glancing-over some others opinion, you'd probably agree. ;)

With a game like DayZ, you don't get to see the administration in action while in-game. It's only through looking into this section ofthe forums that you can get an idea of how they operate.

I have also played on their servers many times without incident. But, that doesn't change the fact that in this case they've abused their power and dismissed the ban appeal with a "go play on another server" attitude.

Implying that Lunchbox glanced over someone elses opinion and took it as his own is simply ignorant. In his post he even said he read over this [thread] and formed his own opinion.

Would you ignore evidence of police brutality because you personally haven't experienced it?

[blunt_zephyr 51]

I believe you forget, or never knew, that the topic-OP already started similar threads on the OCN forums and then came here after he was denied. This is a hate-troll topic that serves one-purpose. To 'try' and defame OCN servers.

US1992&93 were the first two servers I played on and was on while admins were battling scripters. (spawning those damn ships and cherno hotels all around, tele'n me/everyone to random parts of map. Admins did a good-job and continue to do so) Then again. I didn't act a dick or fuck around for attention. <_<

[Chris529 380]

...they've abused their power and dismissed the ban appeal with a "go play on another server" attitude.

...Would you ignore evidence of police brutality because you personally haven't experienced it?

[rawrerz 5]

I believe you forget, or never knew, that the topic-OP already started similar threads on the OCN forums and then came here after he was denied. This is a hate-troll topic that serves one-purpose. To 'try' and defame OCN servers.

US1992&93 were the first two servers I played on and was on while admins were battling scripters. (spawning those damn ships and cherno hotels all around, tele'n me/everyone to random parts of map. Admins did a good-job and continue to do so) Then again. I didn't act a dick or fuck around for attention. <_<

I have never been to their website. Quit lying to save your friends from their actions.

Edit: They are doing a good job defaming themselves.

I am still waiting for a statement from the admins as to why I was banned. Months without a clear and straight to the point statement.

Edited January 7, 2013 by rawrerz

[Chris529 380]

I am still waiting for a statement from the admins as to why I was banned. Months without a clear and straight to the point statement.

inb4adminreply this doesn't mean you link him back to your other posts since they have no actual evidence of any wrongdoing.

[SherbetViper 2]

Also pretty stupid to think satchel charges and other scripted items are "legitimate" ....please. A cheater brought them into the game against the rules, dropped them and you picked them up. So how are you any different from the cheater? gtfo.

Um...He picked them up. The hacker spawned them in. There is a huge difference.

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

I believe you forget, or never knew, that the topic-OP already started similar threads on the OCN forums and then came here after he was denied. This is a hate-troll topic that serves one-purpose. To 'try' and defame OCN servers.

US1992&93 were the first two servers I played on and was on while admins were battling scripters. (spawning those damn ships and cherno hotels all around, tele'n me/everyone to random parts of map. Admins did a good-job and continue to do so) Then again. I didn't act a dick or fuck around for attention. <_<

This isn't a thread designed to drag OCNs name through the mud. It's about one specific banning and the events surrounding it. Perhaps if you're going to post in here you should keep your comments on the topic at hand rather than try to belittle the whole idea of a server reporting thread.

[blunt_zephyr 51]

Laughable. This is a mud-sling topic. It has been since the first-post...which was made after being denied on the OCN forums. I dont know any of the OCN members but I see them being better than most server-admins. (which in some cases, isnt much)

You guys still have the same brick-top response since day 1..It's a couple of months later..You lost. Happy Newyear, eh!

[Chris529 380]

Laughable. This is a mud-sling topic. It has been since the first-post...which was made after being denied on the OCN forums. I dont know any of the OCN members but I see them being better than most server-admins. (which in some cases, isnt much)

You guys still have the same brick-top response since day 1..It's a couple of months later..You lost. Happy Newyear, eh!

He was denied there and probably thought this is ridiculous fuck it im going to DayZ forums since they should do something about this shit.

Would this "mud-sling topic" have happened if he wasn't banned without reason and denied unban? No? So who's fault is it this thread was made?

Edit: They are doing a good job defaming themselves.

had they known how to read the evidence and realized it was their mistake and unbanned him earlier they wouldn't have caused this thread.

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

Laughable. This is a mud-sling topic. It has been since the first-post...which was made after being denied on the OCN forums. I dont know any of the OCN members but I see them being better than most server-admins. (which in some cases, isnt much)

You guys still have the same brick-top response since day 1..It's a couple of months later..You lost. Happy Newyear, eh!

If he lost the thread would be closed. So can you not clutter up this thread with blind OCN praise?

Cops are great, they protect us. That doesn't mean they never make mistakes and shouldn't be accountable for mistakes. Same goes for server admins.

[sharkiller 31]

im legal i have 15 satchel charge and a itemradio looted yesterday. /sarcasm=off

[Chris529 380]

im legal i have 15 satchel charge and a itemradio looted yesterday. /sarcasm=off

It's legal to own any number of satchel charges/radio granted you have not/there is no evidence of you duping them or scripting them in.