What will make DayZ a better Mod?

[venthos 605]

More weapons from ARMA, include the P90, make SMG's sidearms, as the damage fucking blows.

No no no no no no no. If anything, DayZ needs less military grade weapons. I'll reserve judgment, though, until standalone releases and item duping is resolved so we can see the true drop rate/retention rate on these weapons.

DayZ is focused around a survivor rummaging through the post-apocalyptic tattered remains of a country. It makes much more sense to have the majority of the players wielding civilian grade weaponry, which would be more prevalent. Rocket has already stated as much. He seems to have implied there are no plans to add much, if any, military grade weapons. I want to see the game where shotguns/enfields aren't seen as garbage weapons used before you run to the nearest airbase and get an assault rifle. They should be worthy guns. You do this by making those types of guns more prevalent and the military grade stuff exceptionally rare.

You didn't shoot any argument here. Developers are always limited by current hardware. It doesn't matter if it is PC or counsole.

So you've gone from goal post moving to complete lack of reading comprehension? I had said:

"not limited by unified hardware"

Unified hardware being the exact thing you said was "so great" about consoles. How could you miss a point that referenced your own argument? I was demonstrating how both unified hardware of consoles and greatly varied configurations in PCs both have pros/cons. You need to at least read and comprehend what I type if you're going to argue with me.

And your statement about social gathering is applied only to you. If your counsoles are sitting in the attic all the time it doesn't mean that all other millions of counsole owners use them the same way.

Just like your statement about PC owners being upset about not having consoles complaining only applies to a few people. Most PC gamers have at least one current gen console. See how you walked right into that? :D Boom. Too easy.

Nah, you don't see it. You're still too blind to the fact I've shot every argument you've had full of holes.

Lastly, I'm genuinely curious at this point (since so many people have pointed it out) what language/dialect "counsoles" comes from. I'm not trying to rag on you for it, rather I am intrigued by a language that would spell that word that way. I'd appreciate if you take this question seriously and provide a straight forward answer.

[magrathea 11]

Developers are always limited by current hardware.

...unless they are limited by seven-year-old hardware as they are In the case of the coinsole? Coinsole hardware isn't remotely current, unless by 'current', you mean 'any hardware that still exists'..in which case your statement above isn't true

[Dankine 377]

itt, three different ways to spell console

[belzibhaal 21]

Game could also use a compound bow.

[venthos 605]

Agreed on the compound bow. Rocket has said he plans to add a quiver for thinks like the crossbow's bolts. I imagine it wouldn't be a stretch to think he may expand that out into arrows/compound bow. After all, he seems pretty set in on adding more civilian grade weaponry. That'd fit right in there.

[Dankine 377]

Agreed on the compound bow. Rocket has said he plans to add a quiver for thinks like the crossbow's bolts. I imagine it wouldn't be a stretch to think he may expand that out into arrows/compound bow. After all, he seems pretty set in on adding more civilian grade weaponry. That'd fit right in there.

Also sounded like he wants more "find at home" weaponry. Which I can only guess is stuff like knives, bats, erm..table legs?

[Alex87 (DayZ) 0]

as always, the word is counsoles.

HaHaHaHaHa surely no-one is this moronic!?!

[Dankine 377]

you'd be surprised.

[sheepdawg 278]

There's no hacking on counsoles. There's no piracy on counsoles. There's montage program on counsoles so you can send mails with your sniper kills to youtube and facebook and become popular. Furthermore the controller is superior to clunky keyboard in any way possible. And you don't need to upgrade counsole every 3 years for $1000 because PC hardware gets old and outdated very fast. Counsole games are always optimized and run without lag.

You are a fucking idiot. "hacking" in the "traditional" sense does NOT exist on consoles. Ever heard of stat padders, modders and all that? I could give a shit less about "hackers", I'm talking about "professional" douchebags that ruin the game.

All I am advising Rocket here is to develop the game for the platform that made it a hit. The motherfucking PC. I swear to god if I have to adjust my controls around a clearly console-based layout*cough...CS:GO...cough* then I will be pissed. It is really time for developers to stop burning PC gamers when in reality PC gaming makes the longevity of a game advance 2fold. Most every game that is still active, and not "Hammer Legioned" these days is due to modding.

Bottom line...and take this to the bank. If DayZ goes console oriented or even console consideration before its fully released...it will fucking FAIL.

I have a 360 and a PS3, I am not saying consoles are useless...i jsut hate when developers lose sight of what MADE them, and what is really way more benficial to the product itself.

[void.false@gmail.com 300]

You are a fucking idiot. "hacking" in the "traditional" sense does NOT exist on consoles. Ever heard of stat padders, modders and all that? I could give a shit less about "hackers", I'm talking about "professional" douchebags that ruin the game.

All I am advising Rocket here is to develop the game for the platform that made it a hit. The motherfucking PC. I swear to god if I have to adjust my controls around a clearly console-based layout*cough...CS:GO...cough* then I will be pissed. It is really time for developers to stop burning PC gamers when in reality PC gaming makes the longevity of a game advance 2fold. Most every game that is still active, and not "Hammer Legioned" these days is due to modding.

Bottom line...and take this to the bank. If DayZ goes console oriented or even console consideration before its fully released...it will fucking FAIL.

I have a 360 and a PS3, I am not saying consoles are useless...i jsut hate when developers lose sight of what MADE them, and what is really way more benficial to the product itself.

So you say today's ArmA controls are fine? How's that fine that you have to leave your mouse to use numpad +/- or numpad slash to switch between primary and secondary scope? Or hitting V and falling down the roof when all you want is to use your binoculars? And using mouse wheel to climb ladders is the best thing since sliced bread (sarcasm). With counsole controller you have everything under your thumbs so you can actually focus on the gameplay instead of fighting your keyboard. All Rocket needs to do is to add target lock and the game will be perfect.

[venthos 605]

All Rocket needs to do is to add target lock and the game will be perfect.

Alright, it's been a fun thread. But, you've just tipped your hand with that comment. You had me going up until then that you were genuinely trying to argue. But, that just was way too obvious of a troll. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted!

[void.false@gmail.com 300]

Alright, it's been a fun thread. But, you've just tipped your hand with that comment. You had me going up until then that you were genuinely trying to argue. But, that just was way too obvious of a troll. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted!

Don't know what you're talking about. GTA has target lock, The Witcher has target lock. Most great games have this feature. Even the very first Ghost Recon had that.

All I see is that only me suggesting here something useful. What have YOU suggested? Quiver? More weapons? This has been suggested million times already on these forums.

[Dankine 377]

So you say today's ArmA controls are fine? How's that fine that you have to leave your mouse to use numpad +/- or numpad slash to switch between primary and secondary scope? Or hitting V and falling down the roof when all you want is to use your binoculars? And using mouse wheel to climb ladders is the best thing since sliced bread (sarcasm). With counsole controller you have everything under your thumbs so you can actually focus on the gameplay instead of fighting your keyboard. All Rocket needs to do is to add target lock and the game will be perfect.

because there's absolutely no way to change the controls..

target lock, wow, you're excelling yourself now.

why do you write it "counsole"?

[Zymi 64]

Terrain textures actually representing the terrain. Breaks immersion.

Stop Infected from spawning out of thin air all around you. Round a corner and 6-7 Zeds spawn right next to me and instantly agro and one hit me.

Make Infected not retarded. Some you can run past and still not draw agro.

Remove tents.

Fix animations and clipping issues.

[hunterkilla 67]

the word is consoles. con-soles.

and once again, you are talking out of your behind. becoming quite a theme. the comment about kb/m being clunky too, perfect. a pro level player on a console will be destroyed by an average player on a pc (fps).

yes, there is no way a person using a console controller up against a pc player with keyboard and mouse would stand a chance, microsoft even did a test on this and realised that the PC mouse / keyboard combo wiped the floor with the console. PC doesnt have autoaim etc... I wont even answer the other points as people have already pointed out the flaws

[UbiquitousBadGuy 846]

All Rocket needs to do is to add target lock and the game will be perfect.

I really don't see that happening.

Call it intuition.

[Sir Diealot 46]

So you say today's ArmA controls are fine? How's that fine that you have to leave your mouse to use numpad +/- or numpad slash to switch between primary and secondary scope? Or hitting V and falling down the roof when all you want is to use your binoculars? And using mouse wheel to climb ladders is the best thing since sliced bread (sarcasm). With counsole controller you have everything under your thumbs so you can actually focus on the gameplay instead of fighting your keyboard. All Rocket needs to do is to add target lock and the game will be perfect.

[sheepdawg 278]

I'll just say this. If Arma 2 was deployed as CONSOLE ONLY...there would be no DayZ forums. Why is that? What breathes life into any game that developers hand the controls over to the community? You guessed it. Mods.

Go mod your xbox then tell me how that works out for you.

Also i believe one of your arguments was KB+M vs controller. Well guess what. My "inferior" device can use BOTH setups, and numerous others. IRtracker, Kinect, joystick, etc.

[sheepdawg 278]

I really don't see that happening.

Call it intuition.

Meh...id call that sanity, not intuition lol.

[Dishy 9]

Nothing, because the DayZ "Mod" is pretty much dead. I seriously doubt we will for example see a better inventory or control system. They are obviously from the way support for the mod has slowed to a crawl, putting 90% of their effort into the "Standalone" game.

please i enjoy your QQ