Age limits are everywhere

[Axz 30]

If there where some way to enforce it, that would be fantastic haha.

I'd seperate all children from all adults in every way and let them out when they are 18, this way pedophillia would never be an issue again, and teenagers would actually WANT to see thier parents.... Bit draconian I know but... One can but dream....

[Deetwo 69]

Perhaps clans could have a probation period? I know one 14 year old person who is friendly mature and friendly, and just wants to learn and play but he can't get into a clan because of the more immature people of his age group, and lower.

Again, I can't speak for other clans; but you have to understand the amount of stress a recruitment officer would be under.

The constant stream of applications coming in day in and day out would make anyone overworked and tired. So when a kid comes along and says he wants to join the clan, there's not much motivation left to give him a chance.

Edited September 3, 2012 by Deetwo

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

Age may not reflect maturity but I, myself, don't have a vast amount in common with those in their teens, so I can understand age limits.

But it works both ways, I wouldn't expect a bunch of 14 year old's to want me as part of their clan, and to be honest it would feel a little odd for me as well.

I'm sure there are clans/groups for younger folk out there as the average age range appears to be fairly young.

Now, where's my pipe and slippers?

anyone seen my specs?

rgds

LoK

Edited September 3, 2012 by orlok

[kebman 213]

Is there an upper limit?

[Welch (DayZ) 756]

I agree, as a 14 yr. old, it's difficult joining a group where people actually listen to what you say. I don't even like to talk very much, and so I end up getting booted from TS servers for not talking...

And to the guy saying 14 year olds don't have busy schedules, that doesn't apply to everywhere. I only get to play for a couple hours at around 9pm and on weekends, I hardly have time for anything other than sports and school.

[Sula 1205]

I do, Deet. I've run many a clan and, indeed forums too. It's very stressful. But probation simply means, telling new recruits they can wear a new-recruit clan sign and if you see or get reports of unacceptable behaviour by them they will not be made a full member. :thumbsup:

[Deetwo 69]

I do, Deet. I've run many a clan and, indeed forums too. It's very stressful. But probation simply means, telling new recruits they can wear a new-recruit clan sign and if you see or get reports of unacceptable behaviour by them they will not be made a full member. :thumbsup:

Oh alright, I suppose my post wasn't really meant for you then. More like a blanket statement I suppose.

Edited September 3, 2012 by Deetwo

[AnnieGYG 32]

I really can't understand why 14/15 year old want to play with clans where the average age is 27-37 years old. I see hundreds of forums posts in here with 15-17 year olds posting clans.

However I can see a lot of reasons why 27-37 year olds wouldn't want to play with a 14/15 year old. Your maturity is just one of the smaller issues here, some do act more mature, however I don't want your parents venting at me becasue I spoke about perverted sex jokes in front of you or linked a porn movie outake to the Teamspeak channel.

If clans do have an age limit, it's to protect us, just as much as it is to protect you - if you think theres no paedophiles in online gaming I think you'd be mistaken.

[Deetwo 69]

If clans do have an age limit, it's to protect us, just as much as it is to protect you - if you think theres no paedophiles in online gaming I think you'd be mistaken.

Wow, I didn't even think about that.....scary thought.

Edited September 3, 2012 by Deetwo

[Welch (DayZ) 756]

I really can't understand why 14/15 year old want to play with clans where the average age is 27-37 years old. I see hundreds of forums posts in here with 15-17 year olds posting clans.

However I can see a lot of reasons why 27-37 year olds wouldn't want to play with a 14/15 year old. Your maturity is just one of the smaller issues here, some do act more mature, however I don't want your parents venting at me becasue I spoke about perverted sex jokes in front of you or linked a porn movie outake to the Teamspeak channel.

If clans do have an age limit, it's to protect us, just as much as it is to protect you - if you think theres no paedophiles in online gaming I think you'd be mistaken.

But a clan full of immature kids isn't what someone who's looking for a more mature clan wants. Most of the people my age that I've played with are those immature people who spend too much time being by themselves, rather than around other people where they can learn manners.

Like the other day, I was in a TS server with a ~20 yr. old, and another 14 yr. old. The ~20 year old and I were having a normal conversation about the server hoster (who was an asshole), and the other kid in the server was meowing and singing. I don't want that in a group. So unless I find a group with mature teenagers, I'll prefer older gentlemen to play with.

[Deetwo 69]

I agree, as a 14 yr. old, it's difficult joining a group where people actually listen to what you say. I don't even like to talk very much, and so I end up getting booted from TS servers for not talking...

And to the guy saying 14 year olds don't have busy schedules, that doesn't apply to everywhere. I only get to play for a couple hours at around 9pm and on weekends, I hardly have time for anything other than sports and school.

Unfortunately, this is indeed the way it will be from now till......eternity. Clans will continue to not only look down on younger applicants, but be very skeptical of one as well.

People can argue that its unfair, but.....that's reality. The people in this topic can argue all they want, but I don't believe it will change the fact that most, if not all clans will continue to impose a 18+ age restriction.

Most clans are either tired of dealing with kids in general or simply do not want to risk it.

Edited September 3, 2012 by Deetwo

[Sula 1205]

Deet, I was enjoying the discussion with you, so no problem. :) :thumbsup:

Welch, I understand but have to admit, I laughed when you said the young player was meowing and singing. I think I like the sound of that person! :beans:

[Welch (DayZ) 756]

Unfortunately, this is indeed the way it will be from now till......eternity. People can argue that its unfair, but.....that's reality. We can argue all we want, but I don't believe it will change the fact that most, if not all clans will continue to impose a 18+ age restriction.

Most clans are either tired of dealing with kids in general or simply do not want to risk it.

I know, and I don't like it.

Quoting from some random stranger who made a list on what he would do if he was an evil overlord, "I'd like to have one 4-yr old in my Evil Council, so if the 4-yr old ever found a mistake in my seemingly fool-proof plan, I would redo the entire thing."

That doesn't really apply to anything here specifically, but still, you could probably stick it somewhere and make it work...

I've also come across plenty of adults who acted less mature than I did.

[Welch (DayZ) 756]

Deet, I was enjoying the discussion with you, so no problem. :) :thumbsup:

Welch, I understand but have to admit, I laughed when you said the young player was meowing and singing. I think I like the sound of that person! :beans:

You honestly wouldn't. Maybe in real life, at school, where he acts normal, but when you get online with him; his inner Katy (Katey?) Perry comes out and it's really obnoxious. His voice sounds like a woman through a mic, too. I honestly didn't recognize his voice the first time I played with him and thought it was a girl.

[Deetwo 69]

Deet, I was enjoying the discussion with you, so no problem. :) :thumbsup:

Welch, I understand but have to admit, I laughed when you said the young player was meowing and singing. I think I like the sound of that person! :beans:

Ah, okay just wanted to clarify myself.

And are you sure you're not bias towards the meowing and singing? lol

[son54 78]

So many people are missing the point.

To those who say that kids screaming down their mic ruined games

I am not talking about 9-12 year olds. I am talking about mature teenagers just looking for a group of people to play with. I am not against not allowing someone to play because they are immature and ruin peoples fun. I am talking about mature people who can be just 2 years under the age limit are automatically disqualified because some people of the same age group can be undesirable.

To those who say anything about anyone 12 and under.

Again I am just speaking on the behalf of the demographic of 13-17. Beyond that there are very few children that would actually enjoy group work or this game at all.

To those who say clans do it so they don't "risk it" with kids.

Judge the character of the person in a more detailed recruitment form and in chat. You are not doing anything to prevent undesirable people from joining your clan, your just preventing a large group of people who could for all you know be the funnest people to play with not even get a chance. There are people you will meet who pass all the requirements of recruitment that can be total assholes that will dupe, script, and even kill clan members. I have had that experience.

[Welch (DayZ) 756]

That's what I'm saying, Son. But then again, not everyone wants to listen to a youngen, mature or not.

[Zimtok5 24]

Age counts. Good thread.

The power of youth is that if you do not like the world as it is, you have an unbridled opportunity to change it. Start your own community founded upon the principles you value. The Internet is great for connecting like-minded people, so take advantage of that new canvas.

As for an upper age limit on gaming, we may have not cycled through enough time to meet a high volume of old-time gamers yet, but I imagine it will get to that stage. Hell, I'm not going into an old folks home unless it's got at least an Atari next to my bed pan.

[Deetwo 69]

To those who say anything about anyone 12 and under.

Again I am just speaking on the behalf of the demographic of 13-17. Beyond that there are very few children that would actually enjoy group work or this game at all.

To those who say clans do it so they don't "risk it" with kids.

Judge the character of the person in a more detailed recruitment form and in chat. You are not doing anything to prevent undesirable people from joining your clan, your just preventing a large group of people who could for all you know be the funnest people to play with not even get a chance. There are people you will meet who pass all the requirements of recruitment that can be total assholes that will dupe, script, and even kill clan members. I have had that experience.

Alright, I can understand your position in defending the actual teenage range and not the preteens. They are indeed treated unfairly (in this community especially).....However, for the most part many of them are indeed bad apples. Unfortunately, an immature teenager would be more vocal than a typical mature teenager would be and this may affect a clan's overall attitude towards other younger players.

In regards to having a more detailed recruitment process geared towards filtering out undesirables...I absolutely agree.

However, you have to understand that setting up any sort of recruitment process is an absurd amount of work and some clans may not want to make the additional effort just to grab the handful of mature teenagers out there.

In any case, many clans will continue to disallow applicants under 18 (no matter how this topic progresses) simply because they are tired of dealing with young players in general.

Edited September 4, 2012 by Deetwo

[dutch_miller 159]

This is a hard topic for me; mostly because I am in the age range of dispute (15). I can obviously see why clans don't want people my age, both from experiences in-game and real life experiences with peers. Most of them are annoying, stupid, immature, and if they played this game they would be the ones backstabbing and camping cherno/elektro. I'm not surprised when a clan has an age limit, nor do I get angry at said clan for it.

However I would include myself among the few who aren't like this. I have never murdered anyone in DayZ. I've been playing multiplayer games since I was under 10 years old; but I knew people didn't want to listen to me so I didn't use a mic. I didn't give them any reason to think I was younger than they were. I've played in many clans before across many games, and never once have I done anything to get myself kicked out of it. I led one when I was 11, and the people in it thought I was at least in high school.

It's not a problem for me, really. If I see a clan has an age limit that is older than me, I don't apply. Simple as that. I find a different clan that doesn't care (for example: trusted medics) about how old you are but cares more about how mature and intelligent you are, as well as how well you can play the game.

[- Valkyrie - 89]

You don't see the point

You don't know what age person you are talking to until they tell you.

I get the point. But I can sound older while being just a 15 year old. Therefor I can lie about my age. - Ever thought of that?

I do also get the point that some of the younger guys act more mature then older ones, but those are 5 out of 50. I have personally experienced a lot of younger guys not being serious when the situation needs it, like in a firefight.

As I said, there are also 16+ aged clans. And to be very honest. No matter how much mature you can be, I just don't feel like playing a Survival/Combat game with 12,13,14,15 and even 16 year olds.

You have to look at it like in real life. Do 25 year old guys hang out with 16 year olds? I don't think so. Now, do you get my point? Everyone searches people with similar age for the most best experience.

Peace.

[Rustywolf (DayZ) 7]

Hey guys I'm starting a team that is a 11 to 14 year old squad. We ask for mature players but hopefully will have a great time!

http://dayzmod.com/f...uad-is-for-you/

Edited September 4, 2012 by Rustywolf

[nicraM 137]

There is a reason for the 18+ age limit in most reputable clans.

Maturity.

/thread

[dutch_miller 159]

There is a reason for the 18+ age limit in most reputable clans.

Maturity.

/thread

That's not really the mind-blowing sentiment that justifies an "/thread"

[PygmyJess 91]

Being a woman and having younger kids in the clan gets confusing. We all sound the same and then I get a 15yr old asking me if I'm really a girl. It's like XboxLive all over again.