LU434 - banned for having AS50 TWS

[skilless1082 2]

i got banned today from LU 434 for having an as50 tws. i found the gun in a tent on a different sever, i never realized it was a hacked weapon, sorry :/

[FlamingDefibs 421]

Well you have no proof that shows you didn't hack it in yourself, but if they checked the logs and they see that you didn't spawn it, then they have to remove the ban because you can't get banned for using a hacked weapon if you didn't spawn it in yourself. Rocket said so himself.

[robciviccrx 28]

Well you have no proof that shows you didn't hack it in yourself, but if they checked the logs and they see that you didn't spawn it, then they have to remove the ban because you can't get banned for using a hacked weapon if you didn't spawn it in yourself. Rocket said so himself.

You cant be globally banned, local bans are very different.

www.dayzwiki.com check the guns that are in the game and only use them and it wont happen to you again OP.

[AADiC 182]

Agree, get rid of it and your ban should be removed by the SA's

[skilless1082 2]

what sort of proof would i need ? ive dropped the gun now on de 2012. thats the last time i pick anything up that has TWS. yeah it wasn't a global ban, just an admin ban but still id like to use this server since i have a tent and a quad on it. Thanks for all the replies. does anyone know how long it would take for admins to check the logs and see that i didn't spawn it?

[icetbag 3]

You need to contact the admins of the server and ask them to remove your ban so you can join and they can scan your kit via the logs to prove its no longer in your inventory kit.

If they can't prove you've run a script to spawn the weapon, they have most likely assumed you have when they've scanned the logs for players with illegal items.

[SqTH 260]

Well you have no proof that shows you didn't hack it in yourself, but if they checked the logs and they see that you didn't spawn it, then they have to remove the ban because you can't get banned for using a hacked weapon if you didn't spawn it in yourself. Rocket said so himself.

I don't see "Rocket's statement" in the admin rules, and a cheated weapon that is not in the lootable sheet is server disruptive.

Automatic ban. I unban on request.

[AADiC 182]

I don't see "Rocket's statement" in the admin rules.

Automatic ban. I unban on request.

Wow, even I think that is asinine. I don't agree with Rocket's stance on this, but really, since it is not listed in the same post, it doesn't count, SMH.

[Trip@42k 6]

You cant be globally banned, local bans are very different.

www.dayzwiki.com check the guns that are in the game and only use them and it wont happen to you again OP.

Wrong. http://dayzmod.com/f...-hosting-rules/ take a look at this.

I'll even copy&paste for you, 11. As a server admin you must not:

You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members.

You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed.

You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle.

You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk.

You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs.

Edited September 6, 2012 by Trip@42k

[robciviccrx 28]

Wrong. http://dayzmod.com/f...-hosting-rules/ take a look at this.

I'll even copy&paste for you, 11. As a server admin you must not:

You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members.

You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed.

You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle.

You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk.

You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs.

Yes I can and I do.

Having a thermal sniper that can see through fog is disruptive to players who keep it legit, logs clearly show who has such weapons and just to be fair I warn anyone with one to drop it on another server before returning as the kick message.

Go be wrong elsewhere.

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

Wrong. http://dayzmod.com/f...-hosting-rules/ take a look at this.

I'll even copy&paste for you, 11. As a server admin you must not:

You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members.

You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed.

You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle.

You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk.

You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs.

And in the real world, admins are working hard to keep a level playing field.

[SqTH 260]

Hi newfag, you must be new here.

Edit : not sur if stupid new fag, or flamming troll

Edited September 6, 2012 by SqTH

[Trip@42k 6]

Hi newfag, you must be new here.

Edit : not sur if stupid new fag, or flamming troll

I love socially rejected retards, go be a dick somewhere else hm? And tell your parents what a bad job they did.

[Trip@42k 6]

Yes I can and I do.

Having a thermal sniper that can see through fog is disruptive to players who keep it legit, logs clearly show who has such weapons and just to be fair I warn anyone with one to drop it on another server before returning as the kick message.

Go be wrong elsewhere.

No its not wrong. Rocket himself has stated that using a hacked gun (aslong as you did not script it in yourself) is FINE. If you want me to spend useless minutes digging up the post for you, I will. Try not to be so confident in things you don't know.

[Trip@42k 6]

And in the real world, admins are working hard to keep a level playing field.

Level playing field or not, they're not abiding by the rules. You can abide by the rules and keep a level playing field, but that doesn't entice "Vigilante" justice to where you can randomly ban people just because they have a piece of gear you don't want to be there.

[SqTH 260]

I love socially rejected retards, go be a dick somewhere else hm? And tell your parents what a bad job they did.

Hu ho...

You remind me AndreasB :)

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

Level playing field or not, they're not abiding by the rules. You can abide by the rules and keep a level playing field, but that doesn't entice "Vigilante" justice to where you can randomly ban people just because they have a piece of gear you don't want to be there.

I disagree, although I think banning would be a final step. The rules can say what they want, but if I see a player continuously using an AS50 TWS, they're gonna get bumped and eventually banned. I have better things to do than keep warning people.

[Yann (DayZ) 60]

Level playing field or not, they're not abiding by the rules. You can abide by the rules and keep a level playing field, but that doesn't entice "Vigilante" justice to where you can randomly ban people just because they have a piece of gear you don't want to be there.

There are thousands of servers, it is not a global ban. And stop talking about abiding by the rules when you condone the use of hacked weapons.

The end result of using one is exactly the same whether you spawned it or you got your mate to do it on another server.

[robciviccrx 28]

No its not wrong. Rocket himself has stated that using a hacked gun (aslong as you did not script it in yourself) is FINE. If you want me to spend useless minutes digging up the post for you, I will. Try not to be so confident in things you don't know.

You should try not to be so confident in things you have no clue about at all, using a weapon which is not in the loot table and gives an unfair advantage over legitimate players is disruptive, it has been stated many times BATTLEYE will not ban you, I on the other hand will and as long as the players which play on our server support removing people who want to use scripted in weapons I will continue to do so or we get blacklisted and players have one less "clean" server to play on.

135 isnt doing too bad considering gametracker has it ranked around 200.

I dont suppose you are the TRIP who got banned recently for using an AS50 TWS ? It would make sense.

Now if you want to pay for a server and let players run around with scripted in weapons then go ahead otherwise stfu and gtfo.

[SqTH 260]

Now if you want to pay for a server and let players run around with scripted in weapons then go ahead otherwise stfu and gtfo.

[Shinssue 7]

i never realized it was a hacked weapon

[plhogan@gmail.com 15]

Here is the point: all of you who think admins can't ban for having hacked weapons, I invite you to stop us.

I always ban for hacked shit. It's hilarious that people think a server could get blacklisted for that.

[khalimerot 76]

[AADiC 182]

Level playing field or not, they're not abiding by the rules. You can abide by the rules and keep a level playing field, but that doesn't entice "Vigilante" justice to where you can randomly ban people just because they have a piece of gear you don't want to be there.

The developers do not want the weapon to be there, that is why they removed it from the loot tables. It's not our fault that they have set forth a set of rules that favor hackers/scripters and unfair game play. Enforcing this rule tells the scripters/hackers/exploiters, hey come and do whatever you like, we don't care. Not going to happen, warnings then removal from the server.

[Trip@42k 6]

There are thousands of servers, it is not a global ban. And stop talking about abiding by the rules when you condone the use of hacked weapons.

The end result of using one is exactly the same whether you spawned it or you got your mate to do it on another server.

The fact there is no rule against using a hacked gun aslong as you didn't script it in yourself is abiding by the rules. And no, I'm not condoning it, I hate it asmuch as anyone else. But the rules are clear and you can't bend it to fit your beliefs.