DayZ realism (NEEDS Smoke and Liquire)

[RazorHardy 7]

I LOVE DayZ (and clearly hate grammar). I love it for the fact that it feels real and I can work with my friends to achive simple goals. I think it would be sweet if Rocket added smokes and liqure in the game to increass the feal of realism. Picture having a smoke while sitting at a campfire after a big gunfight. I would be nice to have so if I went AFK my charcter could be still doing somthing. People could even see someone having a smoke and assume he is AFK or having a break and get the jump on him. Aswell liquire would be fun, funny and practical. Are you saying out of an entire city there is not one beer to be found? Picture a drunk sniper, or some drunk idiot running through charno just letting of rounds. Lol it would be a site to see. This would be a sweet update and it shouldnt be to hard to code in. Till then I leave some spots open in my pack till the day this dream becomes a reality.

[Inception. 9443]

Yeah, and added to adding smokes and liquor for realism, he should add the realistic facts that smoking ruins your body, as does liquor. That'd be funny, players constantly coughing and moving slower, eventually dying.

[Cvm 13]

If you drank, it would also need to increase your thirst since it can dehydrate you. Also, since were are realistic, when you drink, it'll be your first time drinking, so a can or two will make you hung over and unable to function. Also, assuming you are not dead, you will be hung over the next morning, after you wake up from collapsing, for a few hours (real-time).

[Inception. 9443]

If you drank, it would also need to increase your thirst since it can dehydrate you. Also, since were are realistic, when you drink, it'll be your first time drinking, so a can or two will make you hung over and unable to function. Also, assuming you are not dead, you will be hung over the next morning, after you wake up from collapsing, for a few hours (real-time).

Stuck unconscious for a few hours, HAHAHAHAH that's brilliant.

[RazorHardy 7]

Smoking dosent ruin your body unless you have been doing it for years (I'm talking 20-40 here). I smoke and a health junky runner (irony at its finest). Infantry, marines, even special forces smoke. Aswell you charcter is a full grown male (few cases female). I'm sure they have drank before. I just like the concept of allow you to branch out into things people do everyday. If there was a zombie apocalypse I deffinitly would be grabbing a bottle of somthing.

Picture it, your surrounded by zombies and there no way out, so you take a swig of rum. Light up a smoke, and go out guns blazing..... Epic...

Quentin Tarantino, we need to talk

[gywidion@msn.com 80]

Smoking has short term effects as well. Aside from contributing to dehydration, it does more.

http://www.uhs.hku.hk/he/smoke/health_effect-eng.htm

[Wargunner 55]

Alcohol could be a good addition. Though would have to work out the positive and negative effects. All I can think of at the moment is that it could be a less effective but easier way to warm up, it comes at its price ofcourse (loss of coordination, etc). But warmth in this game at the moment isn't really a big factor like food and water are.

[gywidion@msn.com 80]

Alcohol for warmth? No. Might make you think it is warmer, therein lies the danger.

[BudiJ 13]

Smoking could benefit in steady aim, but as a downside you would be addicted after few cigs. And it would actually make your hands shakier if there is no painkillers or cigs to use.

[Wargunner 55]

Alcohol for warmth? No. Might make you think it is warmer, therein lies the danger.

Huh, never knew that. Learn something new everyday!

Though I still wouldn't mind, simply for games sake.

[gywidion@msn.com 80]

I like the idea, for the social aspect. Passing out, hangover, ect.

Fallout with it drugs and alcohol for the win.

[Thadeum 103]

Smoking cuts the hunger, so basically you could smoke to be less hungry.

[esham (DayZ) 25]

I need crack to sooth my nerves

[RazorHardy 7]

Smoking has short term effects as well. Aside from contributing to dehydration, it does more.

http://www.uhs.hku.hk/he/smoke/health_effect-eng.htm

[RazorHardy 7]

I think you facts sheet Is a little out there. It seems like a one sided anti smoking chart, like you very first smoke. It mainly just increass blood pressure, heart rate and makes you feel less hungry. Talking to my PT about it. Nothing against you, just not rocking the chart : /

[Edward b 83]

I think you facts sheet Is a little out there. It seems like a one sided anti smoking chart, like you very first smoke. It mainly just increass blood pressure, heart rate and makes you feel less hungry. Talking to my PT about it. Nothing against you, just not rocking the chart : /

Disagreeing with facts makes you wrong.

[RazorHardy 7]

But I rather not get to into weather smoking is good for you. It's just that 1/4 smoke, and almost everyone drinks, especially in hard times. I like the idea:

Alcohol:

Pros:

-Reduces pain,

-Slower loss of blood (medically you don't panic as much reducing heart rate, aka slower blood loss)

Cons:

- Drinking makes your vision slightly blurry

-Soft shaking. (Maybe increased dehydration, to an extent)

Smokes:

Pros:

-Reduces Hunger (make the hunger timer slow down)

-Steady’s Aim through scope (calms nerves)

Cons:

-Increases dehydration,

-Slightly more visible,

-Maybe at RANDOM times could cough,

-Increases blood loss if bleeding (could go either way on that one, because it does calm you down, but also increases heart rate)

Side notes,

- Smoking should not have a long, or lasting effect, (these folks run all day, there lungs are fine)

- Alcohol induced effects should not last forever (I wouldn't want my screen blurry for 3 hours)

[RazorHardy 7]

Disagreeing with facts makes you wrong.

[slartibartfast (DayZ) 77]

Smoking dosent ruin your body unless you have been doing it for years (I'm talking 20-40 here).

Honestly??.

And here was me thinking that the mutations caused by smoking in your body could happen on your first fag.

So do you have a number for the fags I can smoke before I get cancer? Or is it something that you just made up to troll?

Let us not even talk about the reduced lung capacity and skin problems and eye problems and mouth ulcers and smelly clothes.

Given how much valid information there is in the real world about the dangers of smoking, your view worries me.

Yes. I am an exsmoker. I was in the Army. I could run in full combats with all my gear(including an SLR, otherwise known as the L1A1 or the fn fal in game). How happy was I when we changed to the rifle 5.56mm(SA80)?

[RazorHardy 7]

Facts are often in-accurate when pulled from the Internet, no reference on sheet from where it came from, could be from anywhere. Aswell as many of the short term effects are out there trembling, dizzeniss, irritation

Not arguing, just friendly disagreeing :)

[Hetstaine 10852]

I need crack to sooth my nerves

:D

[slartibartfast (DayZ) 77]

Smoking cuts the hunger, so basically you could smoke to be less hungry.

The stuff I smoke increases hunger and removes the ability to care whether zeds see me, or not man!

Woah, is that a dragon? Cooooooool!

[Edward b 83]

Honestly??.

And here was me thinking that the mutations caused by smoking in your body could happen on your first fag.

So do you have a number for the fags I can smoke before I get cancer? Or is it something that you just made up to troll?

Let us not even talk about the reduced lung capacity and skin problems and eye problems and mouth ulcers and smelly clothes.

Given how much valid information there is in the real world about the dangers of smoking, your view worries me.

Yes. I am an exsmoker. I was in the Army. I could run in full combats with all my gear(including an SLR, otherwise known as the L1A1 or the fn fal in game). How happy was I when we changed to the rifle 5.56mm(SA80)?

You clearly don't know how smoking (or science, for that matter) works. If you smoke, then you put yourself at risk for cancer. That does not mean that it will happen, just that the odds are against you. Exceptions to the norm are not going to disprove science. Stop being angry over being wrong.

Facts are often in-accurate when pulled from the Internet, no reference on sheet from where it came from, could be from anywhere. Aswell as many of the short term effects are out there trembling, dizzeniss, irritation

Not arguing, just friendly disagreeing :)

Here you are questioning the validity of the source instead of providing evidence that the source is wrong. You cannot do this and expect to be taken seriously. If you smoke, you are probably going to pay the consequences. I don't understand why you're disputing a fact- it's making you wrong.

[RazorHardy 7]

You clearly don't know how smoking (or science, for that matter) works. If you smoke, then you put yourself at risk for cancer. That does not mean that it will happen, just that the odds are against you. Exceptions to the norm are not going to disprove science. Stop being angry over being wrong.

Here you are questioning the validity of the source instead of providing evidence that the source is wrong. You cannot do this and expect to be taken seriously. If you smoke, you are probably going to pay the consequences. I don't understand why you're disputing a fact- it's making you wrong.

The source is only considered to be evidence if the source is valid (Did two years of law, just wanted to say that)

Not disagreeing that smoking is bad, just "disagreeing" with some of the "short term" effects on a "random chart" (I could make a chart that says otherwise and post it)

But to put this too rest yes I know, understand and agree Smoking, not good for you.

I agree with you, I am wrong

Let’s shoot back to the main point of the thread which is having these in the game as a fun idea. J

[RazorHardy 7]

TO EVERYONE, YES, SMOKING = BAD. YES, ALCOHOL = BAD

Let’s not get into a health discussion about HOW it is bad. Arguing goes nowhere, so let’s just be friendly.

I just think it would be fun and neat to have in and curious to how it would be balanced in DayZ