Lets sweep hacking under the rug for good

[TheMachine 803]

The way I see it, hacking is so endemic in dayZ that by now we've all been victims of it knowingly.

And probably unknowingly many more times.

This will scare off newer players who're gullible enough to try to test out the mod at this stage.

Now this could hurt the sales of the standalone, since people will get the idea that it's always going to be like this, and since rocket refuses to shut down the hive, we ought to help out.

I think the mods should issue a 'pretend it's not happening' decree among the forum team, each and every thread containing people complaining about hacking should be immediately deleted.

Forum members can help out too, every time someone mentions hacking you just post in the thread and say 'I've been playing *insert x number of weeks/months* and I've only been killed by a hacker once'.

This will minimise the impact of the very real problems someone's complaining about long enough for the DayZ forum team to kick into action.

To make it easier for the forum team, I propose a basic database query that can be run, to save them having to use the search function.

Once you're logged in as a 'forum team' member, another search box can appear next to the standard one.

First we'll have a new search box.

<form action="hackersearch.php" method="post">
	 Search: <input type="text" name="term" value="hacker hacking cheating" /><br />
<input type="submit" name="submit" value="Submit" />
</form>

The search box will have the search terms conveniently already in it so diligent mods only have to press a button.

Dunno how the database is setup so this is probably wrong, but it could just use the search function of the site easy enough but posting to that.

<?php
mysql_connect ("dayzhost", "username","password") or die (mysql_error());
mysql_select_db ("databasename");

$term = $_POST['term'];

$sql = mysql_query("select * from database where postname like '%$term%'");

while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($sql)){
echo 'ID: '.$row['ID'];
echo '<br/>postname: '.$row['PName'];
echo '<br/> threadname: '.$row['TName'];

echo '<br/>DELETE THESE POSTS IMMEDIATELY<br/>';
}

?>

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Everyone is very aware of the problem. There's already plenty of thriving threads discussing it and Rocket has discussed it at length in several interviews. I only lock threads that simply whine about a hacker without proof or adding anything to the debate.

[TheMachine 803]

Everyone is very aware of the problem. There's already plenty of thriving threads discussing it and Rocket has discussed it at length in several interviews. I only lock threads that simply whine about a hacker without proof or adding anything to the debate.

And I think you're entirely justified in doing so, but we need to take it further.

For the sake of the standalone.

We can't let these idea's of hackers and cheaters infect peoples minds like the infection has spread over chernarus!

[The2ndLink 156]

Censorship and pretending the problem doesn't exist isn't the way to go.

First because it just wouldn't work.

Secondly it would be just lying about the state of the product. If that happens the QQing about the dev team would be for once justified.

A dishonest policy would hurt the stand alone much more than the hacking could.

This is a horrible idea.

Edited August 27, 2012 by The2ndLink

[bobstefanio 24]

So your suggesting a cover up or a file and forget approach no this is not the solution. This is a problem that happens in almost every game that is online. I have encountered a few hackers not a whole lot maybe been killed 4 times in my total time of playing and I play often. The problem isn't as bad as I see everyone here complaining about maybe you have been unlucky or like to stick to high pop servers but I have only been thunder domed once met one invisible hacker yes I have seen quite a few hackers creating weapons and vehicles but have not been killed by them.

I think it would harm the game more if you joined the game got killed by hackers and when you posted in the forums about it you just got locked and ignored. That's would exclude and anger players more what the mods are doing right now is perfect taking proof acting on it locking whine threads and in the background the devs are working on solutions not to mention battleye working to ban as many as they can.

While your thinking in the right way save the mod and the standalone your approach in my opinion is wrong.

[sostronk 334]

Damage is already done. Word is out. Youtube is full of 13 year olds pwning servers.

[Max Planck 7174]

I have a sneaking suspicion that TheMachine might be sarcastic here, but I might have missed something.

If I am indeed correct in my assumption, I would just like to remind OP and everyone else that the hacking/scripting issue is well known and further 'one-line-in-all-caps' threads on the matter aren't necessary or even helpful in the slightest.

Edited August 27, 2012 by Max Planck

[Toft 61]

I agree with sostronk and The2ndLink..

pretending hackers isnt there. isnt really gonna fix anything. Of course you are right that i could damage the sale of the standalone game. But sadly there isnt much we can do about it. Unfortunatly Arma 2 is made in a way it makes it very easy to hack, or inject scripts. And for the so called anticheat BattlEye, well lets just say it isnt the best anti cheat system ever developed.

The only thing we can hope is that, the standalone game will use PunkBuster, wich is damn near the best anti-cheat system made imo.

And that it will stop most of the hacking.

Also imo. its a shame some people, that might not enjoy the game, or is pissed that someone killed their asses, have a tendency to use cheat, and make the game unplayable for the rest of us that enjoy DayZ. Personally, if i got tired of a game. or angry about getting killed all the time. i would just stop playing the game, instead of using my precious time to find some hacks, and make other ppl frustrated about the hacks. But then again im not that 13 year old kid :).. anyhow

I look forward too see and try out the standalone game, and i will keep my fingers crossed for good luck. That there isnt gonna be so many hackers, if any..

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Yup, my sarcasm buzzer nearly flew off of the desk when I read the post.

[Securion 9]

Its fantastic what a little bit of intelligence and a sense of humor can add value to these boards. :)

The OP is a genius. ;)

[lordopeth 274]

Edited August 27, 2012 by opeth

[TheMachine 803]

I have a sneaking suspicion that TheMachine might be sarcastic here, but I might have missed something.

If I am indeed correct in my assumption, I would just like to remind OP and everyone else that the hacking/scripting issue is well known and further 'one-line-in-all-caps' threads on the matter aren't necessary or even helpful in the slightest.

It doesn't even have to be an issue though, we can use logic against logic to repudiate morality and reason while laying claim to it.

It'll be amazing how fast 'hacking' goes from being a big issue to a non issue.

Also, it falls right in line with rocket's 'don't post on my own community forum' policy.

Edited August 27, 2012 by TheMachine