Chimaera 68 Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) Ive been playing a couple of months now.Ive found just about every weapon and item and been to all corners of the map, pinched and found vehicles, never got a chopper (but im crap at flying anyway).And im still playing although its dwindling fast.The reasons?Getting killed is definatly a part of it, im sick of the PvP element whose only recourse is to kill another player, admittedly im more of a PvE player and i will only fight when challenged i let people pass by without killing them. But it clearly seems society doesn't think this way, to them its better to have an As50 and hide in the woods ( i struggle to see what you get out of this kind of gameplay, when do you actually experience the game hiding and sniping on a hill with duped ammo and guns)On a fresh start, I had a bloke on DC once say nothing in that building as i entered so i went elswhere then he snuck up behind me and started to axe me ?? wtf..Don't get me wrong i don't mind getting killed if we have started an assault on an airfield or prison and we die in a battle that's fine because the death was worth the gain we receive if we survive as a team, but to have a team slaughtered by an unknown assailant in a ghillie and sniper gun in the middle of nowhere?But i guess that's better than running in cherno asking to get shot.The graphics failures and weak zombies and many of the other seemingly unfixable faults are definatly killing it as well.Hackers and the usual are another part of problemIve faithfully reported all the faults and bugs i found on the dev section not that it seems anyone has ever read them.Ive played both Chernarus and Lingor Island and liked both.I really hope the devs listen to all the comments and read all the posts when they build the retail version as im not really sure they do.Yes of course they have the path that they are laying out that we cannot see but hopefully they realise they need the community as well. (of late it doesn't seem that way)There are many ways to play the game but worryingly it seems we are going to end up with nothing but PvP in the end even though it was a promising start.Hopefully the powers that be will re-balance the gameplay somehow.Jaded..... but i have enjoyed a lot of itps im sure there will be some abuse as is common on these forums but im just posting my thoughts whether you agree or not Edited August 27, 2012 by Chimaera 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elasticz 35 Posted August 27, 2012 Tl;dr average carebearAlso, you bought this game thinking in was an MMORPG. Your fault, not the game's fault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CerebralZombie (DayZ) 151 Posted August 27, 2012 Well just wait for the stand alone version. Maybe it'll have enough added to it to keep you happy. Plus no, or very little bugs.Maybe you'll have fun with WarZ. :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boxman80 964 Posted August 27, 2012 Ive been playing a couple of months now.Ive found just about every weapon and item and been to all corners of the map, pinched and found vehicles, never got a chopper (but im crap at flying anyway).And im still playing although its dwindling fast.The reasons?Getting killed is definatly a part of it, im sick of the PvP element whose only recourse is to kill another player, admittedly im more of a PvE player and i will only fight when challenged i let people pass by without killing them. But it clearly seems society doesn't think this way, to them its better to have an As50 and hide in the woods ( i struggle to see what you get out of this kind of gameplay, when do you actually experience the game hiding and sniping on a hill with duped ammo and guns)On a fresh start, I had a bloke on DC once say nothing in that building as i entered so i went elswhere then he snuck up behind me and started to axe me ?? wtf..Don't get me wrong i don't mind getting killed if we have started an assault on an airfield or prison and we die in a battle that's fine because the death was worth the gain we receive if we survive as a team, but to have a team slaughtered by an unknown assailant in a ghillie and sniper gun in the middle of nowhere?But i guess that's better than running in cherno asking to get shot.The graphics failures and weak zombies and many of the other seemingly unfixable faults are definatly killing it as well.Hackers and the usual are another part of problemIve faithfully reported all the faults and bugs i found on the dev section not that it seems anyone has ever read them.Ive played both Chernarus and Lingor Island and liked both.I really hope the devs listen to all the comments and read all the posts when they build the retail version as im not really sure they do.Yes of course they have the path that they are laying out that we cannot see but hopefully they realise they need the community as well. (of late it doesn't seem that way)There are many ways to play the game but worryingly it seems we are going to end up with nothing but PvP in the end even though it was a promising start.Hopefully the powers that be will re-balance the gameplay somehow.Jaded..... but i have enjoyed a lot of itps im sure there will be some abuse as is common on these forums but im just posting my thoughts whether you agree or notYou could try playing with a few groups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimaera 68 Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) Don't be silly..I bought thisTl;dr average carebearAlso, you bought this game thinking in was an MMORPG. Your fault, not the game's faultActually this is a mod for a game didn't you realize ... you do remember buying the game to play the mod dont you..And lets just clear up the carebear partI want this game to be brutal severe zombies terror round every corner death everywhere, not just easy everywhere and as50s on every hill with 10 year olds sitting using themWell just wait for the stand alone version. Maybe it'll have enough added to it to keep you happy. Plus no, or very little bugs.Maybe you'll have fun with WarZ. :lol:You was doing alright till the silly comment at the end, what makes you think i would play a spin off POS like Warz :PYou could try playing with a few groups.Ive done loads of teamplay as well Edited August 27, 2012 by Chimaera 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roguetrooper 201 Posted August 27, 2012 Then play Arma II as it was meant to be played: start the game without dayz, open the editor, get yourself into scripting and thinking and make your own maps.The editor is Arma's main feature. All the stuff around the editor are just by-products. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimaera 68 Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) Then play Arma II as it was meant to be played: start the game without dayz, open the editor, get yourself into scripting and thinking and make your own maps.The editor is Arma's main feature. All the stuff around the editor are just by-products.Unfortunatly for me im not a big fan of war / military simulators, i bought arma purely for access to Dayz, i opened the editor once and just wasn't digging it.And i opened the single player once as well for about 5 mins lol Edited August 27, 2012 by Chimaera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jony_RocketInMyPocket 172 Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) *snip*WTF IS THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^??? Edited August 27, 2012 by Max Planck Please don't quote spambots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted August 27, 2012 Tl;dr average carebearAlso, you bought this game thinking in was an MMORPG. Your fault, not the game's faultAverage virgin.Bought Battlefield, couldn't do better than a 0.5KDR so you shoot hatchet noobs in DayZ instead. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted August 27, 2012 WTF IS THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^???It's spam, I deleted it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merc4tor 11 Posted August 27, 2012 I owned ArmA2 long before DayZ came out and I played with serveral clans. We always played coop, large or small scale missions fighting bots. I loved the Arma community because like myself everybody was very into teamplay. In the first weeks of DayZ it was only teamplay/coop-loving players that I encountered in the world of DayZ. Everyone was friendly, we talked over ingame chat and teamed up over ingame voice chat to raid the NW airfield or cherno. Then DayZ became bigger in bigger and Chernarus was taken over by PVP players from outside the Arma2 community. That's very sad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimaera 68 Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) It is sad that DayZ seems to bring out the worst side to people and its weird how DayZ seems to "imitate" real life, as society is more abusive and self effacing F### everyone else attitude etc so it seems to come to DayZ.I think a certain amount of children element contributes to this as well.( The forum posts back up this theory as well)I dont get people sitting in the woods for hrs sniping noobs, if i kill someone i want what he is carrying ..Its a good thing that they are separating ArmA and DayZ before DayZ tarnishes the community for Arma in one senseI dont doubt for one minute imagine DayZ Retail will be any different but we shall seeIf it is the same it will be another game to be thrown away because it didnt deliver, shame really after a promising start.If they wrote into the game career choices PVE or PVP so i could only be killed by the game then i would happily do that and it would piss off the idiots on the hills when im playing a medic and they cant kill me :P Edited August 27, 2012 by Chimaera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CerebralZombie (DayZ) 151 Posted August 27, 2012 Hey now ~Who's to say we all won't have fun playing WarZ? :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMachine 803 Posted August 27, 2012 Ive been playing a couple of months now.Ive found just about every weapon and item and been to all corners of the map, pinched and found vehicles, never got a chopper (but im crap at flying anyway).And im still playing although its dwindling fast.The reasons?Getting killed is definatly a part of it, im sick of the PvP element whose only recourse is to kill another player, admittedly im more of a PvE player and i will only fight when challenged i let people pass by without killing them. But it clearly seems society doesn't think this way, to them its better to have an As50 and hide in the woods ( i struggle to see what you get out of this kind of gameplay, when do you actually experience the game hiding and sniping on a hill with duped ammo and guns)On a fresh start, I had a bloke on DC once say nothing in that building as i entered so i went elswhere then he snuck up behind me and started to axe me ?? wtf..Don't get me wrong i don't mind getting killed if we have started an assault on an airfield or prison and we die in a battle that's fine because the death was worth the gain we receive if we survive as a team, but to have a team slaughtered by an unknown assailant in a ghillie and sniper gun in the middle of nowhere?But i guess that's better than running in cherno asking to get shot.The graphics failures and weak zombies and many of the other seemingly unfixable faults are definatly killing it as well.Hackers and the usual are another part of problemIve faithfully reported all the faults and bugs i found on the dev section not that it seems anyone has ever read them.Ive played both Chernarus and Lingor Island and liked both.I really hope the devs listen to all the comments and read all the posts when they build the retail version as im not really sure they do.Yes of course they have the path that they are laying out that we cannot see but hopefully they realise they need the community as well. (of late it doesn't seem that way)There are many ways to play the game but worryingly it seems we are going to end up with nothing but PvP in the end even though it was a promising start.Hopefully the powers that be will re-balance the gameplay somehow.Jaded..... but i have enjoyed a lot of itps im sure there will be some abuse as is common on these forums but im just posting my thoughts whether you agree or notThis guy is a script kiddie waiting to happen.If you're bored, for the love of god, please just play another game.Don't go googling cheats and ruin it even more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notSLICK 26 Posted August 27, 2012 *snivel* i got bored... *snivel* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimaera 68 Posted August 27, 2012 This guy is a script kiddie waiting to happen.If you're bored, for the love of god, please just play another game.Don't go googling cheats and ruin it even more.LMFAO thats the best post of the day M8Im nearly 50 yrs old :P :P...My sides still hurt from the laughing..I wouldnt cheat anyway i think ive handled a duped weapon before which is likely in this mod but thats all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cinnabuns 45 Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) Don't worry, when the stand-alone comes out, provided duping and item spawning are entirely removed, it will be a different game. This is the main reason Rocket and team have stated they will be "locking down" the stand alone.Resources for "l33t guns" that all these nubs use, read AS50, silenced pistol, silenced whatever, won't be able to be duped there by reducing their usefullness to near 0. I mean, you stumble on an AS50 with 1 clip and you have a Winchester with 5 clips already... which are you going to use/keep? In a real situation the gun with more ammo wins.Its funny, all the videos and many of the posts you see have a least 1, sometimes 4-5 gillie suit wearing guys carrying around AS50s and silenced pistols and shooting at everything. That won't happen in the stand-alone because ammo will be so scarce as to make these weapons "1-3 clips and you're empty, throw it away and get something you have ammo for" useless/disposable.Sure time will tell but the main/only reason all these people are running around with these weapons and plenty of ammo is either because they found 1 and duped it for their squad and then duped and continue to dupe a bunch of ammo for them, or the gun was hacked in by them or someone else and then duped/ammo duped, "I didn't hack it in, I found it in a tent!" (har) I love seeing guys in videos running around with AS50 and they bring up their inventory and they have 4 clips for it and 5 more in their backpack.... yeah ok.You don't find ammo for these guns with any regularity and using them would be more of a burden than a perk.Duplicating food, water, morphine, everything is what keeps many of these guys from going in to the cities where they would possibly get injured/broken bones/death.Stopping the insta logging out guys and the duping/scripting will change this in to another game entirely, what it was initially.A lot of people have slowed or stopped playing because of these issues but the stand-alone will see all of these players come back after they see these issues have been dealt with and there is a level playing field.And to all those people saying, "blippety blur blah, WarZ!1! har rofl much better hur dur", have you sEEn the stuff the studio making this game has put out? They have a "free to play" "pay to win" game out right now and WarZ is based on the same engine and just looking at videos of it on Utube, its pretty but the core gameplay is like... yeah, no thanks. So once WarZ has been released and all the hype is gone... all these dummies will stop spouting off as well. Edited August 27, 2012 by Cinnabuns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CerebralZombie (DayZ) 151 Posted August 27, 2012 Don't worry, when the stand-alone comes out, provided duping and item spawning are entirely removed, it will be a different game. This is the main reason Rocket and team have stated they will be "locking down" the stand alone.Resources for "l33t guns" that all these nubs use, read AS50, silenced pistol, silenced whatever, won't be able to be duped there by reducing their usefullness to near 0. I mean, you stumble on an AS50 with 1 clip and you have a Winchester with 5 clips already... which are you going to use/keep? In a real situation the gun with more ammo wins.Its funny, all the videos and many of the posts you see have a least 1, sometimes 4-5 gillie suit wearing guys carrying around AS50s and silenced pistols and shooting at everything. That won't happen in the stand-alone because ammo will be so scarce as to make these weapons "1-3 clips and you're empty, throw it away and get something you have ammo for" useless/disposable.Sure time will tell but the main/only reason all these people are running around with these weapons and plenty of ammo is either because they found 1 and duped it for their squad and then duped and continue to dupe a bunch of ammo for them, or the gun was hacked in by them or someone else and then duped/ammo duped, "I didn't hack it in, I found it in a tent!" (har) I love seeing guys in videos running around with AS50 and they bring up their inventory and they have 4 clips for it and 5 more in their backpack.... yeah ok.You don't find ammo for these guns with any regularity and using them would be more of a burden than a perk.Duplicating food, water, morphine, everything is what keeps many of these guys from going in to the cities where they would possibly get injured/broken bones/death.Stopping the insta logging out guys and the duping/scripting will change this in to another game entirely, what it was initially.A lot of people have slowed or stopped playing because of these issues but the stand-alone will see all of these players come back after they see these issues have been dealt with and there is a level playing field.If they really want to make this game for everyone, and get more players to play I really think in the stand alone version they should let the server have more control over customization. Now servers could stick to the regular, as the players would obviously let them know what they want or think is best. Changing the percentages of items that spawn, and maybe even where such as vehicles, weapons, gear, ect. This could determine how far along the break out is, with having more or less stuff. (Also change game play.) Maybe have a max percentage of how many of something can spawn as to not make servers ridiculous. Any ways, this would take a lot more elaborating on, but it may appeal to a percentage of players that want something different. (And no it's not 0%!) :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elasticz 35 Posted August 27, 2012 Actually this is a mod for a game didn't you realize ... you do remember buying the game to play the mod dont you..And lets just clear up the carebear partI want this game to be brutal severe zombies terror round every corner death everywhere, not just easy everywhere and as50s on every hill with 10 year olds sitting using themYeah, I bought the game for the mod.That doesn't mean I neglected the game like an idiot.It's a simulator still not an MMORPG or a run and gun FPS.And lets just clear up the carebear partI want this game to be brutal severe zombies terror round every corner death everywhere, not just easy everywhere and as50s on every hill with 10 year olds sitting using themThe closest you're going to get is Dead Island or some kind of tower defence game.If you want zombies running all over the place jumping up on you, then eventually you will just end up camping one spot for the rest of the game.An NPC who uses melee (zombie) poses no threat to you if you own a gun. It's just the simple.It's good a have an external fear other then the zombies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elasticz 35 Posted August 27, 2012 Average virgin.Bought Battlefield, couldn't do better than a 0.5KDR so you shoot hatchet noobs in DayZ instead.Implying I own battlefield/call of duty or any of those mainstream sell-out shooters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sticker704 121 Posted August 27, 2012 Try playing lingor island if you're bored.t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimaera 68 Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) The balance in the game definatly needs restoring. So no argument from me on thatThe game needs to be brutalIve often said it needs a proving ground, Lingor Island maybe where the noobs get up to speed and then some tunnels or a boat crossing to Chernarus where the real test starts.Scarcity of items is a must which will cure a lot of the problems and make people work together to survive.But it still must be possible to do it alone for those of us that like the challengeThe closest you're going to get is Dead Island or some kind of tower defence game.If you want zombies running all over the place jumping up on you, then eventually you will just end up camping one spot for the rest of the game.An NPC who uses melee (zombie) poses no threat to you if you own a gun. It's just the simple.It's good a have an external fear other then the zombies.Absolutly you need both threats for the game to work.Zombies need to be scary and dangerous with tactics that make them a real threat (they are a slight inconvenience atm)Player threat needs to be real and always around the next corner.Like i say if ive been outwitted and killed fair do's to the guy but...If ive been killed by a camper spawn because i dared go near a town .. pointless if it happens repeatedly (scare ammo and no duping will deffo help this one)Just observations that need to be solved in the real game.On the whole of 2+ months ive enjoyed the ups and downs and thrills that is DayZEdit@Sticker704 If you had even read the first post you would know i have been playing Lingor Edited August 27, 2012 by Chimaera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sostronk 334 Posted August 27, 2012 Are there Zombies in this game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SadPanda (DayZ) 181 Posted August 27, 2012 Implying I own battlefield/call of duty or any of those mainstream sell-out shooters.Let me guess, you only play those cool, underrated games just because they're not ''mainstream''. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elasticz 35 Posted August 27, 2012 Let me guess, you only play those cool, underrated games just because they're not ''mainstream''.No man, I play hat fortress 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites