acid_blotter 75 Posted August 25, 2012 And other high grade military equipment.Basically only sniper would be cz550 and all other guns be russian not american, basically all akms and aks and other lower tier guns. idk just a suggestion people dont need a as50 for zombies xD but idkThought it would be a good idea make firefights longer more intense and not knowing if it was a hacker or a noob who logs in elecktro/cherno shoots and logs out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carebear Baddie 47 Posted August 25, 2012 Ugh, not again. No. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acid_blotter 75 Posted August 25, 2012 Ugh, not again. No.Care to elaborate? I have used as50/M107/L85aws and i think they dont belong in this MOD personally but thats my opinion and you are free to believe what you believe just want to know why exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carebear Baddie 47 Posted August 25, 2012 Care to elaborate?I have used as50/M107/L85aws and i think they dont belong in this MOD personally but thats my opinion and you are free to believe what you believe just want to know why exactlyElaboration is in the million other threads, mostly by the same title as this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schrapple 119 Posted August 25, 2012 I'd personally like to see the high end military weapons become very rare items and the focus be on civilian weapons. More pistols, shotguns and bolt action hunting rifles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carebear Baddie 47 Posted August 25, 2012 That's fine, and to an extent that's how the game is supposed to currently operate. But hacking/duping has made every weapon quite common. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingochaos 131 Posted August 25, 2012 I dont get the hate for good kit? A .303 will kill you one shot, it is a match for an AS50 inside 300. Its a rare thing ive had to fire it twice at the same target... its better than a DMR in that respect, and they should be common as mud(ive got one, had two, swapped it for a box o beers and a pack o smokes a few years back) But then so are decent hunting rifles. A model 700 is a m24... probably most common hunting rifle in the world, i live in new Zealand, hippy centre o the world... i can still buy a .50 on the lowest level fire arms license... but for half the price, i can pick up a .338 lapua, which will comfortably out range a .50. What part o the world do you people live where fire arms are rare exactly? If anything, realisticly, farm buildings etc, are heavily under armed in game. And short o the zombies eating all the weapons the military brought into the area(as evident by all the dead military etc) It seems consistant that light infantry weapons should be floating around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hydra (DayZ) 472 Posted August 25, 2012 High-Powered rifles (ie the As50) are actually quite rare in the spawn values. The only reason you see/hear/get hit by a .50 cal every five seconds is because of snipers and dupers.As for military gear being more rare... Sure, they could be more rare, but remember that there was at least at one time a large military force present in Chernarus, which would explain the thousands of military zombies and bodies, and the hundreds of destroyed military vehicles.The reason for the weapons being there is pretty friggin' solid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
belesis 14 Posted August 25, 2012 Idk, I'm kinda on the fence with this one. The military grade weapons are good when you have them, but it is a bit annoying when going on a loot hunt in Cherno or Elektro after a death and having someone with a 50 cal snipe you from the hills. Maybe they could just remove the AS50 and M107 for a bit of balance but leave the DMR, SVD etc. Just a thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Womb Raider 92 Posted August 25, 2012 I'd personally like to see the high end military weapons become very rare items and the focus be on civilian weapons. More pistols, shotguns and bolt action hunting rifles.Something like this would be nice to see, obviously duping would have to be fixed.I'd certainly like to see more pistols and shotguns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bazbake 456 Posted August 25, 2012 The M24 and CZ550 are pretty much the same gun with different scopes. The CZ550 is uncommon and the M24 is rare. The damage of the .50 calibers are ridiculous unless they're using Raufoss Mk211s and they're exploding on impact or something.If they would bring up the damage of the .45s to kill in one or two hits, the shotguns to kill in one hit, and the 9mms to kill in two or three hits, this wouldn't be as much of an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schrapple 119 Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) I dont get the hate for good kit? A .303 will kill you one shot, it is a match for an AS50 inside 300. Its a rare thing ive had to fire it twice at the same target... its better than a DMR in that respect, and they should be common as mud(ive got one, had two, swapped it for a box o beers and a pack o smokes a few years back) But then so are decent hunting rifles. A model 700 is a m24... probably most common hunting rifle in the world, i live in new Zealand, hippy centre o the world... i can still buy a .50 on the lowest level fire arms license... but for half the price, i can pick up a .338 lapua, which will comfortably out range a .50. What part o the world do you people live where fire arms are rare exactly?If anything, realisticly, farm buildings etc, are heavily under armed in game. And short o the zombies eating all the weapons the military brought into the area(as evident by all the dead military etc) It seems consistant that light infantry weapons should be floating around.Every part of the world gun ownership can be considered rare, even the good old USA has a minority of people that own guns. The chances of me kicking a door in anywhere in NZ and finding a gun are astronomically low and if I did find one chances are that it would be a pistol, shotgun or hunting rifle as opposed to a semi or full auto.As for the military bringing in weapons it's the old balance problem isn't it, realistically there would be cars left everywhere (and even military vehicle) that you could simply use and run over every zombie on the map. You can't apply realism to games it must make way for balance or the game would be pointless. Hence the need to hand out weapons in slow trickles and not just have assault rifles lying everywhere over the place.So at the end of the day the real world influences and gun numbers don't really matter since the game has to be both enjoyable and balanced, both of which take priority over "realism". Edited August 25, 2012 by schrapple Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The True Nova 22 Posted August 25, 2012 As said above, there is a solid reason as to why there are even military grade weapons and that pretty much explains it. No offense, but the only two reasons I can think of why you don't want them is either, A. You can't find any to use for yourself, B. People kill you way to often with em.The gun issue wouldn't even be an issue if duping and hacking them weren't possible. The amount of available higher tier guns would be LOT less so sit tight and wait for some updates and or the standalone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schrapple 119 Posted August 25, 2012 As said above, there is a solid reason as to why there are even military grade weapons and that pretty much explains it. No offense, but the only two reasons I can think of why you don't want them is either, A. You can't find any to use for yourself, B. People kill you way to often with em.The gun issue wouldn't even be an issue if duping and hacking them weren't possible. The amount of available higher tier guns would be LOT less so sit tight and wait for some updates and or the standalone.The reason why I feel we need fewer kick arse guns is that the game loses a very challenging aspect once you get a decent military weapon, I'm not saying remove them, just limit them a lot more so they are genuinely a rare item (so rare that they might temp a peaceful player to kill someone for one) . I think the early stages of the game are far more fun and challenging than popping off zombies safely with a silenced M4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites