Admin "scans" player gear, threatens ban/kick

[andreasb 45]

So if a drug dealer gives you drugs, you can't be arrested because someone gave it to you ?

You deserve a head slap if your answers is "Yes" to that question.

If a drug dealer gave me drugs im obviously in the wrong place to begin with.

[tiri 21]

the analogy falls short.

here's one for you: wizardry is unlawful and if you get spotted doing wizardry, for example creating a pot out of thin air, you are breaking the law.

now if someone else comes by and picks up that pot, did he commit wizardry?

What.

I use concrete, real facts, and you talk about wizardry, which is not illegal (unless you still live in Salem during the 17th Century), and more importantly, DOESN'T EVEN EXIST.

Besides, we are talking about the possession of something illegal, not the act of doing something illegal. The pot in itself is not an illegal object (unless you're talking about the drug, in which case you delete the determinant).

In law, possesion and creation of an illegal object are two separate things (with the latter having a much greater penalty), but the two are illegal nonetheless.

[andreasb 45]

AS50TWS is much more powerfull than a pot.

Well yes, I might agree on TS50AWS. But say a silenced g36, how is that any different to a silenced m4a1?

[andreasb 45]

I use concrete, real facts, and you talk about wizardry, which is not illegal (unless you still live in Salem during the 17th Century), and more importantly, DOESN'T EVEN EXIST.

Proof please. (That wizardry dont exist)

[tiri 21]

Well yes, I might agree on TS50AWS. But say a silenced g36, how is that any different to a silenced m4a1?

Is it not meant to be in the game. That's as simple as that.

Proof please. (That wizardry dont exist)

And proof that it does ? Seriously, what is the point in arguing over something so stupid other than being a low quality troll ?

Edited August 25, 2012 by Tiri

[andreasb 45]

Is it not meant to be in the game. That's as simple as that.

How do you know they arent planning on, or thinking of putting it in the game? As rocket has said, they are only touching the top of looting in the current version.

Now, im NOT advocating hacking or cheating. But I cant kick/ban someone for something that someone else did. I can ask them to not use it, but I cant enforce it. Doing so is admin abuse.

Edited August 25, 2012 by AndreasB

[tiri 21]

How do you know they arent planning on, or thinking of putting it in the game? As rocket has said, they are only touching the top of looting in the current version.

Now, im NOT advocating hacking or cheating. But I cant kick/ban someone for something that someone else did. I can ask them to not use it, but I cant enforce it. Doing so is admin abuse.

I... I don't know what to say.

Alright, I'll do it simple: we find a list on the wiki, and we refer to it. If rocket doesn't tell us, server owners, about such sensible updates regarding fair play and legal ways of acquiring weapons, he is at fault.

If we followed every single rules, it would be impossible to play without a hacker constantly ruining the game. No less than 10 minutes ago, a hacker tried to create a thunderdrome and was stopped.

This is just wrong. Almost nothing is done against hackers and exploiters, and if we try something, it is against the rules.

Rocket (or any manager), this is for you: if you want to sell your game, try to make the game actually enjoyable for all the players who want to play a hard, difficult game, but in fairness.

[SqTH 260]

If we followed every single rules, it would be impossible to play without a hacker constantly ruining the game. No less than 10 minutes ago, a hacker tried to create a thunderdrome and was stopped.

25.08.2012 18:27:17: jaxy [color=#ff0000]*snip[/color] 73c4e7f280e36017b11df08a25fc23f3 - #0 "TTT5_Str_unit=this"
25.08.2012 18:27:17: jaxy [color=#ff0000]*snip[/color] 73c4e7f280e36017b11df08a25fc23f3 - #0 "if (name vehicle player == TTT5NamePl) then {_xcompiled = compile TTT5derCode;call _xcompiled;};"

Yep.

Please don't post player IP's.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Fraggle

[notSLICK 26]

So if a drug dealer gives you drugs, you can't be arrested because someone gave it to you ?

You deserve a head slap if your answers is "Yes" to that question.

apple and oranges, geek.

[andreasb 45]

So if a drug dealer gives you drugs, you can't be arrested because someone gave it to you ?

You deserve a head slap if your answers is "Yes" to that question.

Yes, because a weapon made up of ones and zeroes in a videogame is comparable to stuff that might KILL YOU in real life, and/or ruin others life.

You my dear sir, have got a screw loose.

[Shinssue 7]

Yes, because a weapon made up of ones and zeroes in a videogame is comparable to stuff that might KILL YOU in real life, and/or ruin others life.

You my dear sir, have got a screw loose.

Cheats/drugs same shit.

Ruin life or experience.

[khalimerot 76]

[enforcer1975 1111]

Omg i wish i had a bag of chips and some drink to go with it...reading the thread about exploiters trying to justify the use of possession of illegal game items and compairing them with real life weapons was... really entertaining. And off i got to ban more of those :D

[Razzle Dazzle 49]

he pays for the server , if your have a hacked weapon have some respect and throw it in debug and walk away from it. He gave you a warning

[Shinssue 7]

What happen when Sqth grabs a cheater.

or Khalimerot.

Edited August 26, 2012 by Shinssue

[andreasb 45]

he pays for the server , if your have a hacked weapon have some respect and throw it in debug and walk away from it. He gave you a warning

Doesnt mean shit who pays for it. One has to follow DayZ rules if one wants to host a DayZ server.

Edited August 30, 2012 by AndreasB

[AADiC 182]

Rob, you are basically saying "fuck your opinion, rocket, I don't care that you say as long if they didn't hack it in themselves they're fine, what I am saying is right. I know better than you, the creator of DayZ, I am better than everyone else and my opinion is the only important one"

Yes, and in this case he is absolutely 100% right. If the player gets a warning, and refuses to get rid of the weapon the deserve the kick/ban.

[AADiC 182]

First of all, AS50 TWS is LEGAL. Read wiki.

Second of all, you host servers for COMMUNITY. Don't like it? Don't do it!

I'm sick and tired of admins who host server, ignore official rules, and whine over other people actually following them.

You are not allowed to kick/ban (even local) anyone for using an scripted weapon, vehicle etc. And BE will do it job banning actual hackers.

GET YOUR OWN HIVE AND MAKE YOUR OWN RULES IN THAT HIVE!

Good luck to find any players on it.

If I find an AS50 TWS on your server - I'll use it. If I find an Black Hawk on your server - I'll decide if I fly it or blow it up, and will do it on my own. Don't like it? Cancel server subscription or leave the Hive.

Come to our server and try your luck at posessing a scripted weapon/vehicle and not droping it when asked to.

The private hive server do quite well BTW

[AADiC 182]

As soon as any admin like you will ban me for something he wrongly assumes a "good reason" his server will be reported. :D

And nothing will come about from it.

Sorry for the multiple posts, just when I think that I am done, I find more craziness :P

[AADiC 182]

Everyone should go to AndreasB's server, have someone spawn some tanks and Blackhawks, some RPG's and spend a few hours destroying the fun of everyone on the server.

[andreasb 45]

Everyone should go to AndreasB's server, have someone spawn some tanks and Blackhawks, some RPG's and spend a few hours destroying the fun of everyone on the server.

Thats disruptive hacking... Dont you know the difference, you little kiddie dipshit.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Fraggle

[andreasb 45]

And nothing will come about from it.

Sorry for the multiple posts, just when I think that I am done, I find more craziness :P

You should be blacklisted for it. Its against the hosting rules.

[sharkiller 31]

You should be blacklisted for it. Its against the hosting rules.

[andreasb 45]

Doesnt change the fact that its against the rules. Rules are whats holding society together. No rules = Anarchy.

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

Doesnt change the fact that its against the rules. Rules are whats holding society together. No rules = Anarchy.

Yep the rules are making a big difference to DayZ. About as much difference as you keep spamming the server forum about them.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Gogster