Dev or Rocket, can you confirm

[enforcer1975 1111]

no you cant kick somebody for it because you don't know the source and you don't know if they are noobs.

It's well known where you can get information about legal weapons. My best guess is there are more players ignoring the fact that players no knowing the fact.

I have posted a link on our servers MOTD. Whoever is curious wether he/she has an illegal weapon they can look it up. If i see a player repeatedly connecting with an illegal weapon he deserves a ban. I also have turned a blind eye on players who have connected with an illegal weapon but didn't have it when they came back. But for that i keep the other eye on them.

[Bushman (DayZ) 25]

It's well known where you can get information about legal weapons. My best guess is there are more players ignoring the fact that players no knowing the fact.

I have posted a link on our servers MOTD. Whoever is curious wether he/she has an illegal weapon they can look it up. If i see a player repeatedly connecting with an illegal weapon he deserves a ban. I also have turned a blind eye on players who have connected with an illegal weapon but didn't have it when they came back. But for that i keep the other eye on them.

There is also a ton of legit sht that gets scripted in also,so everyone who comes across those items needs to get banned too then?the point not everyone knows what was hacked in,so instead of a bunch of innocent people getting banned,dont ban unless they hacked in.admins banning for items are the ones breaking the rules,not the people using the items.

Also,enforcer tell me your server name so you can attempt to ban me for my opinion

Edited September 21, 2012 by Bushman

[AADiC 182]

Tell you what Bushman, i,ll send you a pm when im home crom work. You come to the served posessing an hacked in weapon, ill warn you to geg rid if it. If you dont ill kick you, if you return with it, ill ban you. You can file your report and we will see what happens, sound good to you?

[Bushman (DayZ) 25]

sure does dic

Edited September 21, 2012 by Bushman

[AADiC 182]

sure does dic

NVM, you cant reply in a mature fashion, I am not going to waste my time. We have kicked and/or banned many folks for this, and never was blacklisted, it's not going to happen.

http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/93372-automatically-ban-users-of-invalid-hacked-items/ <----- Post 7, a "team member" like the idea.

Not kicking and banning people who are cheating is plain stupid. If you tell someone that the weapon is no longer a spawn in the game and to get rid of it, and they don't, a kick is more than appropriate. People need to quit blindly following a rule set that favors hackers/cheaters/exploiters and use some common sense.

[xforce@yourgamebuddy.com 11]

My server is set up to kick (NOT ban) anyone having a hacked weapon, let's take for example AS50 Thermal vs AS50 Scoped on a foggy day, who do you think would win?

The advantage you get for using the TWS version is insane, no need to switch to your L85 to scan around, clear view, night time sniping and so on. Isn't that cheating one way or another considering that the item should not be in the game?

[Bushman (DayZ) 25]

NVM, you cant reply in a mature fashion, I am not going to waste my time. We have kicked and/or banned many folks for this, and never was blacklisted, it's not going to happen.

http://dayzmod.com/f...d-hacked-items/ <----- Post 7, a "team member" like the idea.

Not kicking and banning people who are cheating is plain stupid. If you tell someone that the weapon is no longer a spawn in the game and to get rid of it, and they don't, a kick is more than appropriate. People need to quit blindly following a rule set that favors hackers/cheaters/exploiters and use some common sense.

Talking about not being blacklisted yet,wheres complaints or appeals specific to you or your server?usually need those to start with right?if people dont act than nothing gets done obviously,1st reason how authority starts to be misused just like anywhere in life. i can down play like you too, "If they havent removed them from the hive then they must want us to have and use them and condone it" , right? see its easy.however there have been rules posted to not ban/kick for having items regardless,you break the rules.."you dont follow rules,youre just as bad as the hackers." Did i say that right?

youre only linking that dayz guy post cause his opinion agrees with your side of the arguement,why not post the the others with rocket and delta smoke saying the rules are to not ban/kick for it?cause it doesnt support you breaking rules to enforce them?you girls kinda remind me of pigs.

Edited September 22, 2012 by Bushman

[AADiC 182]

Talking about not being blacklisted yet,wheres complaints or appeals specific to you or your server?usually need those to start with right?if people dont act than nothing gets done obviously,1st reason how authority starts to be misused just like anywhere in life. i can down play like you too, "If they havent removed them from the hive then they must want us to have and use them and condone it" , right? see its easy.however there have been rules posted to not ban/kick for having items regardless,you break the rules.."you dont follow rules,youre just as bad as the hackers." Did i say that right?

youre only linking that dayz guy post cause his opinion agrees with your side of the arguement,why not post the the others with rocket and delta smoke saying the rules are to not ban/kick for it?cause it doesnt support you breaking rules to enforce them?you girls kinda remind me of pigs.

You're right, no complaints because they know they are in the wrong and are mature enough not to hide behind some BS rule, they just move on.

Hackers ruin game play for everyone else on a server, in a gaming community. I remove them from the server to stop that, no comparison.

I don't know why they haven't spoken up, maybe they are to busy, maybe they just don't give a shit. Nothing can be said by anyone that can convince me that allowing players to use weapons that were REMOVED from the game because they create an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE should be allowed to be used just because you didn't introduce them. If they wanted people to be able to use them in game they would have left them IN THE GAME.

There you go again, cannot discuss a subject without resorting to name calling.

[Bushman (DayZ) 25]

You're right, no complaints because they know they are in the wrong and are mature enough not to hide behind some BS rule, they just move on.

Hackers ruin game play for everyone else on a server, in a gaming community. I remove them from the server to stop that, no comparison.

I don't know why they haven't spoken up, maybe they are to busy, maybe they just don't give a shit. Nothing can be said by anyone that can convince me that allowing players to use weapons that were REMOVED from the game because they create an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE should be allowed to be used just because you didn't introduce them. If they wanted people to be able to use them in game they would have left them IN THE GAME.

There you go again, cannot discuss a subject without resorting to name calling.

Name calling?you started by trying to belittle me for my opinion,treat others how you want to be treated.i think everyone should be punished for ALL rule breaking,even admins.thats my final opinion.

[AADiC 182]

Removing people for this is the right thing to do, why there is a rule that says otherwise defies common sense. A rule that encourages cheating, kind of a oxymoron isn't it.

/discussion

[Bushman (DayZ) 25]

so wheres the post talking sht to rocket?or other dayz staff?im the the bad guy though because of their words and rules?

[AADiC 182]

so wheres the post talking sht to rocket?or other dayz staff?im the the bad guy though because of their words and rules?

Oh no, I have repeatedly said that this specific "rule" is asinine, and that either they don't have to time to be bothered by it or they just don't care.

I don't think you are a "bad person", i just can't understand how you can stand by something that is so obviously wrong and contradictory.

[Bushman (DayZ) 25]

I didnt say it wasnt wrong,ive stated in post that i think all hacked stuff should not be ingame,but i think all rule breaking should result in punishment.

[AADiC 182]

I didnt say it wasnt wrong,ive stated in post that i think all hacked stuff should not be ingame,but i think all rule breaking should result in punishment.

I understand you point of view. I think it is best we just agree to disagree, like I said I don't think your a bad person, just can't wrap my head around how you and others feel.

They remove something because it is OP or for whatever reason, the make a rule that says as long as you didn't hack it in you can use it. One contradicts the other????

I'm going to play GW2, have a good weekend :D

[Bushman (DayZ) 25]

0/

[robciviccrx 28]

Well when our server was on the public hive we started warning with a kick and if they returned with the weapon banning, sure we got over 100 bans in the end and guess what no blacklisting. Also for around a fortnight the MOTD was the warning and they just got banned.

Removing people who use OP weapons is doing a service for the community and the players on those servers.

Now we are not on the public hive so none of this matters to me anymore but for people still playing on public I salute and stand by admins banning whiney little kids who think they can run around with OP weapons and not be touched.