The problem with modern gaming

[miket 92]

It seems that these days, when playing games online, I need to run FRAPS/Bandicam/Playclaw etc to ensure I have evidence whenever I fall victim to a hacker.

This kind of sucks, especially considering the perform hits these programs have on your gameplay.

[Swineflew 480]

I thought you were going to have a valid argument about hand holding and how older games weren't afraid to kill you brutally.

You only need evidence if you actually plan on reporting people, if you don't plan on filing a report if someone is hacking, then just play normally.

Edited August 13, 2012 by Swineflew

[Dankine 377]

there have always been, and will always be cheaters

[miket 92]

there have always been, and will always be cheaters

I've been playing games online for over 15 years. I personally think it's gotten worse.

[ironman Tetsuo 181]

the problem with modern gaming is modern gamers :P

[lordopeth 274]

What swine said..

Really? You have to prove hackers all the time?

How tedious. Kinda takes the joy out of gaming eh? I can care less that hackers are present. There will always be hackers.

[NightRipper 284]

the problem with modern gaming is modern gamers :P

Much as I'd like to be able to disagree.... This.

[Jorden 63]

I've been playing games online for over 15 years. I personally think it's gotten worse.

It hasn't gotten worse, it's the same. You were just oblivious to it.

[TheMachine 803]

'There will always be hackers'.

Yeah, but on most games it's at most a once a week affair that you're shocked to actually see, on DayZ it's almost every server now, at any time of day.

[ironman Tetsuo 181]

Much as I'd like to be able to disagree.... This.

i'm just a jaded gamer in his thirties,

pass me my gaming slippers and i'll tell you all a story about when all this was just green fields, hopes and dreams...

B)

[BigCountry 26]

the problem with modern gaming is modern gamers :P

QFT

[paula 3]

'There will always be hackers'.

Yeah, but on most games it's at most a once a week affair that you're shocked to actually see, on DayZ it's almost every server now, at any time of day.

You are that Fat sad emotional thing in your profile picture arent you? NExt time you want to cut yourself in some Emo attempt to get your parents attention Go down the road not accross the street.

[dagon (DayZ) 17]

30 year old gamer here as well. I am so into games that I actaully work as a QA engineer for games and software lol.and modern gamers arent the problem its the modern casual gamers that are ruining gaming. With ease of access to gaming as of now in our society has created a keep your hands and feet in the ride at all time type of gamer. I saw a humour series of jpegs illustrating if Super mario bros had just come out to day and the first level was broken down into a serises of step by step tutorials.

[beerjedi 2]

i'm just a jaded gamer in his thirties,

pass me my gaming slippers and i'll tell you all a story about when all this was just green fields, hopes and dreams...

B)

Damn Skippy!! Now where did I put my ensure and rocking chair?

[dagon (DayZ) 17]

removing double post wtf lol.

Edited August 15, 2012 by dagon

[Bobcomss 189]

Bring back game experiences like Zelda and StarFox :D everything was simple and fun :D

Also tutorials kill games! and makes gamers lazy! I hate when you can't skip the tutorials of games!! >.<

[ironman Tetsuo 181]

30 year old gamer here as well. I am so into games that I actaully work as a QA engineer for games and software lol.and modern gamers arent the problem its the modern casual gamers that are ruining gaming. With ease of access to gaming as of now in our society has created a keep your hands and feet in the ride at all time type of gamer. I saw a humour series of jpegs illustrating if Super mario bros had just come out to day and the first level was broken down into a serises of step by step tutorials.

damn those minesweeper/solitaire players! Damn them all to hell for ruining my hobby! QQ

:P

[ironman Tetsuo 181]

actually, on a serious note, you can't blame casual players for ruining the industry (for one, the industry is bigger, stronger and more diverse than it's ever been, it certainly isn't ruined) the real culprit is popularity. The moment anything becomes big enough to become worth investing in then the increased flow of money will bring with it all the other more unsavoury aspects of big business. It happens with movies, music and art and now gaming is big enough to have it happen as well. But this is not a "bad"! thing per say, it's just change and we can be very resistant to change especially when we feel like we're losing something (justified or not)

I have been playing computer games since the Vic20, I used to spend saturday afternoons copying code from magazines into my Spectrum just to make the worlds worst racing game, but I loved it all the same. Would I want to go back? Would I want to give up all I have now for what I had then? If I take off the rose tinted glasses then i'm afraid the answer is "NO BLOODY WAY!"

Even with games I wouldn't touch with a barge pole taking up the top ten slots in the format charts doesn't mean I haven't been exposed over the last 5 years to some of the greatest games I've ever played or had even wished of playing. Gaming now is amazing, I can spend a £40 on a AAA rollercoaster ride or £2 on a witty indie hit or £12 or a game that isn't even released yet and have hours of enjoyment, I've never had such a wide choice of games over such a bredth of genres and I don't even have to get off my arse to buy a new game I can do it over the magical interwebs without leaving the flat!

Of course there's a lot of chaff out there, gaming is now big business, but there is also so much more if you scratch past the surface, and a lot of what is still great about gaming today is only possible because of all those other bits we pretend to hate.

Edited August 15, 2012 by ironman Tetsuo

[dagon (DayZ) 17]

I Can blame casual game market for the current ease and hand holding behavior in the majority of modern games. I am not saying that i have not been entertained by the games that have come out in the last decade or so. I am saying That starting from the genesis of the gaming practically, I have noticed a steady decline in the difficulty of gaming. The challenges of a hard game are replaced with the feeder pellet expectations of awards that happen through normal game play. Each game has there theme park tutorial which has replaced the instruction booklet of old. I like the feel that this mod has provided thus far to throw you to the wolves.

http://www.geekologi...-bros-was-m.php

that is the link i am talking about. My critique is that gaming is big business you say. and it is being shaped by causal gamers.

this just in

http://kotaku.com/59...-it-on-consoles

Edited August 15, 2012 by dagon

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Lots of immature analysis of the industry in this thread. Nothing is being destroyed or is "in decline." Casual games are more common, but so are casual gaming companies. It hasn't come at the expense of anything. It represents growth in the industry, not decline, and it's nothing to be afraid of. More gamers means more interest in the industry, more investment, more growth and more potential for new and exciting developments. A casual gamer today might get interested in an MMO tomorrow and then a hardcore RPG or FPS next year. People grow up and change and their tastes evolve and change as well. Bringing someone into the gamer fold, even if it's through Farmville or Wii Sports is still another gamer and that's a good thing for us all.

Some companies might stop making "hardcore" games because they see more profit potential in the casual market, but that just leaves a vacuum for a smaller independent effort to come in and snatch up that market opportunity and make a profit.

It's all growth, and it's all good. Try not being such a bunch of nay-sayers.

[Ankhenaten 111]

Never liked the text adventures. First Pc game was SpaceQuest ... Hacker free and you needed to find the exact term.

Sorry what are we talking about here?

[svenbreakfast 231]

I think the biggest problem with modern gaming is modern people.

[paula 3]

The problem with modern gamers is that the internet has allowed every nimwit with an opinion or an idea the ability to express it to the masses

[Blindingsun 233]

the biggest problem with modern gaming is no

"INSERT COIN" and no joystick.

[martink8190@gmail.com 149]

Lots of immature analysis of the industry in this thread. Nothing is being destroyed or is "in decline." Casual games are more common, but so are casual gaming companies. It hasn't come at the expense of anything. It represents growth in the industry, not decline, and it's nothing to be afraid of. More gamers means more interest in the industry, more investment, more growth and more potential for new and exciting developments. A casual gamer today might get interested in an MMO tomorrow and then a hardcore RPG or FPS next year. People grow up and change and their tastes evolve and change as well. Bringing someone into the gamer fold, even if it's through Farmville or Wii Sports is still another gamer and that's a good thing for us all.

Some companies might stop making "hardcore" games because they see more profit potential in the casual market, but that just leaves a vacuum for a smaller independent effort to come in and snatch up that market opportunity and make a profit.

It's all growth, and it's all good. Try not being such a bunch of nay-sayers.

You aren't a CEO at the EA by anychance are you? Because this kind of bullshit is what I'd expect from greedy, pathetic, uber casual corporations.

You're blind or terribly ignorant if you believe what you just..wrote

Edited August 15, 2012 by Colonel-Wicked