joeaguirre0 11 Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) The Chernarus National Security ForceOur Mission StatementThe Chernarus National Security Force (CNSF) is vested, within its competence defined by our Rules of Engagement and Standard Operation Procedures, with the protection of our group's sovereignty, constitutional order, territorial integrity, economical, scientific, technical, and defense potential of Chernarus, legal interests of the state, and civil rights, from intelligence and subversion activities of foreign special services and from unlawful interference attempted by certain organizations, groups and individuals, as well with ensuring the protection of the state.Other duties include fight against crimes that endanger the peace and security of mankind, terrorism, corruption, and organized criminal activities in the sphere of management and economy, as well as other unlawful acts immediately threatening Chernarus' vital interests.ObjectivesAide and abet any survivors in ChernarusAnnihilate any gangs and banditsProvide security, protection, and supplies to survivorsOperationsOur operations entitle launching capture, raid, resupply, and rescue missions. For example, “Operation Cherno” entitles the securing of specific valuable assets of the city, such as the Hospitals. We do friendly checks and monitor every individual. Those who pose a threat to ourselves or survivors are eliminated. We create a safe haven for struggling survivors for the time we control the city. We generally server hop to populated servers to make the biggest impact of the morally correct community.Rules of Engagement:Do Not Engage:1) Players extremely far away and/or walking the other direction2) Unarmed Starting Players (Doesn't include players with large packs)3) Players without malicious intent ("Friendly", lowers weapon, salutes, etc.)Approach And Ascertain Affiliation:1) Armed Players in which pose no threat (Ie: Your in a good position)2) Player with an Axe that is block away from you3) Any unarmed Player within walking distance4) One Player with Vehicle (commence a "hot stop" or disregard)Kill on Sight:1) Armed Player with a sniper rifle2) Player with an Axe within striking distance3) Player that doesn't respond within 1-3 seconds of the friendly request.You may fire at your discretion after a second is up or wait up to 3seconds. The situation varies since players take 2-3 seconds to type.4) 2+ Players with Vehicle or Helicopter5) Guille suited players are at your discretion (only you can asses their threat level)Standard Operating Procedures:Roles: Assault: Medium-Short range. Uses assault weapons. Specializes in confronting Players and breaching defensive positions.Sniper: Medium-Long range. Uses sniper rifles. Specializes in sniping Players and scouting. Support: Short-Medium range. Uses machine guns. Specializes in covering fire and defending positions.Engineer: Short range. Uses shotguns. Specializes in close quarter combat, vehicle repair, and deconstruction/construction of fortifications.Medic: Short-Medium range. Uses submachine guns or assault rifles. Provides medical aid and supports Assault teams.Rules When Engaging:1) Before engaging a zombie you must say "Engaging".2) Before engaging a player you must alert everyone of your location, give a brief description of the suspect, and his/her direction of travel orlocation. 3) Before firing upon a player you must say "Engaging Player". All shots must be accounted for.3) If you hear gunshots within your vicinity say "Shots Fired" and thelocation where you heard it (Ie: "Cherno-Market", "West of Elektro")Steps When Approaching A Player:1) Take a defensive position. Always obtain a position of advantage.2) Request for backup. If the player is idle, await for at least a secondteammate before taking action. 3) If the player is on the move, ask in Direct Communication, "Friendly?" If no response is given within 1-3 seconds say "EngagingPlayer" and eliminate the Player.Rules When Sweeping or Roaming:1) Always sweep a building or roam with a partner. If you don't have a partner then find one or stick with three people. Always be with someone. Where ever they go, you must go. 2) When sweeping a building cover the entrances and exits. Have atleast two people make entry. Have at least three when there is a suspectwithin the building.3) Police tactics dictate that you use either the "hook" or "crisscross" methods when entering a building. That entitles two people entering a structuresweeping the room perpendicular or parallel. 4) Leave no man behind. Those falling behind their partner mustdeclare that they are lagging behind.Radio Codes:These are police radio codes we use to use up as little radio air in order to be more effective and efficient as a large group.10-4: Affirmative10-20: Location10-16: Prisioner (Survivor In Custody)10-22: Disregard10-80: Explosion (Satchel, Car Explosion, or Gernades)11-99: Team Mate Needs Assistance (Emergency!)Code 3: Lights and Sirens (Emergency Personel Enroute)Code 4: No Further Assistance Needed Code 6: Stay Out Of Area Mumble VOIP Server Rules:Refrain from stating extraneous information as we need you to be clear and conciseDon’t talk over someone or talk for a lengthy period of time as we have large group and require information from all playersPersonal Attacks are absolutely prohibitedPush to Talk or PTT must be activatedDo not give out the channel information without asking me firstIf you have a problem with another user, please contact meMinimum Requirements To Join:Must be 18+ years oldMust be willing to play in US servers onlyMust be compliant and able to follow commandsMust be available for operations as we don't want to see players log on to only use our armoryMust have Mumble VOIP program and a working microphoneYou MUST agree to our Rules of Engagement and Standard Operating ProceduresContact me via Steam or Skype with an application filled out for a much quicker response. If not, respond to this post or message me.Steam: joeaguirre0Skype: joeaguirre13 Edited September 8, 2012 by joeaguirre0 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fribox 34 Posted August 11, 2012 Way to strict rules, engaging way too many players and could easily be mistaken for a bandit clan (because it basically is) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nirvana620 33 Posted August 11, 2012 That's what I like to call police brutality. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeaguirre0 11 Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) Way to strict rules, engaging way too many players and could easily be mistaken for a bandit clan (because it basically is)That's what I like to call police brutality.No need to QQ and flame. This is a military police group. Look up Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine (Міністерство внутрішніх справ України, Ministerstvo vnutrishnikh sprav Ukrayiny, MVS) and their way they handle issues.Might be too realistic for you kiddies though. Edited August 12, 2012 by joeaguirre0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel Knight 427 Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) This actually looks pretty awesome, but seeing as how I'm in a ghillie suit and I do have a sniper rifle, I will be obligated to kill you in self defense. Edited August 12, 2012 by ZombieBait Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H3n4y666 13 Posted August 12, 2012 I love this idea, alas I am too young to join Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karas2@live.com.au 18 Posted August 12, 2012 Sounds interesting i would join Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martin_sonderegger@bluewin.ch 141 Posted August 12, 2012 Rules of Engagement:Do Not Engage:2) Unarmed Starting Players (Doesn't include players with large packs)Kill on Sight:1) Armed Player with a sniper rifle2) Player with an Axe within striking distance3) Player that doesn't respond within 1-3 seconds of the friendly request.You may fire at your discretion after a second is up or wait up to 3seconds. The situation varies since players take 2-3 seconds to type.4) 2+ Players with Vehicle or Helicopter5) Guille suited players are at your discretion (only you can asses their threat level)I like the general idea of this kind of group, just because I'm tired of carebears and some opposition for bandits is actually welcome. But geez guys, at least us bandits openly admit to just shoot everybody who has valuable stuff and don't make up some strange "rules" about why we shoot the guy or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel Knight 427 Posted August 12, 2012 I like the general idea of this kind of group, just because I'm tired of carebears and some opposition for bandits is actually welcome. But geez guys, at least us bandits openly admit to just shoot everybody who has valuable stuff and don't make up some strange "rules" about why we shoot the guy or not.I think you misread his RoE. They guidelines indicate to approach the player and determine his affiliation, not kill him.Both the military and the police have guidelines for when to open fire and when not to. If he wants to make a realistic military clan, this is exactly how it should be done. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martin_sonderegger@bluewin.ch 141 Posted August 12, 2012 I think you misread his RoE. They guidelines indicate to approach the player and determine his affiliation, not kill him.Both the military and the police have guidelines for when to open fire and when not to. If he wants to make a realistic military clan, this is exactly how it should be done.Oh, I must have misunderstood the underlined "kill on sight" as an instruction to kill on sight, sorry for that.Also, the Police normally doesn't get involved in landscapes where only heavily armed criminals are running around. And the Military kills people who are a threat, which is exactly what people are complaining about on the forum. So I guess we're now military bandits? Or maybe KOS is just an appropriate reaction for heavily armed strangers, but who would know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel Knight 427 Posted August 12, 2012 Oh, I must have misunderstood the underlined "kill on sight" as an instruction to kill on sight, sorry for that.You should really go back and reread the RoE it before replying again. Players with backpacks are not on the KoS list.Also, the police do not normally deal with zombie apocalypses, so I think you may need to broaden your views for this idea. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martin_sonderegger@bluewin.ch 141 Posted August 12, 2012 You should really go back and reread the RoE it before replying again. Players with backpacks are not on the KoS list.Also, the police do not normally deal with zombie apocalypses, so I think you may need to broaden your views for this idea.But the rest of the quoted stuff is KOS, and the big backpacks are for "further investigation", which can end in KOS for quite some reasons. I still don't see why this is the protection the poor survivors need from the evil bandit overlords. Seems to me they're basically the same, just switch "give me your stuff" for "are you friendly" and you could apply most of those "RoE" to most of the bandit groups out there.But like I said, do you stuff and pretend to be a police, as long as you kill some of the sniper hill guys, it's good by me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel Knight 427 Posted August 12, 2012 Seems to me they're basically the same, just switch "give me your stuff" for "are you friendly" and you could apply most of those "RoE" to most of the bandit groups out there.Switching 'are you friendly' for 'give me your stuff' is pretty much the biggest difference between bandits and friendlies, so yes, obviously you are correct. The problem is that your statement applies to every single group. Any group approaching and saying 'give me your stuff' is obviously a bandit group.For added amusement in this conversation, I'm a volunteer reserve deputy for the LAPD, so I'm already pretending to be a police man anyway. Lol. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeaguirre0 11 Posted August 12, 2012 Switching 'are you friendly' for 'give me your stuff' is pretty much the biggest difference between bandits and friendlies, so yes, obviously you are correct. The problem is that your statement applies to every single group. Any group approaching and saying 'give me your stuff' is obviously a bandit group.For added amusement in this conversation, I'm a volunteer reserve deputy for the LAPD, so I'm already pretending to be a police man anyway. Lol.Yeah, i graduated from the Police Academy 2 years ago. What people fail to realize is that Chernarus is in a fictional city of Ukraine. This isn't the United States.But the rest of the quoted stuff is KOS, and the big backpacks are for "further investigation", which can end in KOS for quite some reasons. I still don't see why this is the protection the poor survivors need from the evil bandit overlords. Seems to me they're basically the same, just switch "give me your stuff" for "are you friendly" and you could apply most of those "RoE" to most of the bandit groups out there.But like I said, do you stuff and pretend to be a police, as long as you kill some of the sniper hill guys, it's good by me.We are an anti-bandit group. We are just as brutal as them but we direct that brutality towards them. We are a military police faction. Think of it as and elevation above a police state with martial law in effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel Knight 427 Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) I would actually consider breaking my lone wolf mentality if you get a few guys doing this. So far I've tried multiple groups, but the lack of organization frustrated me into leaving them. Edited August 12, 2012 by ZombieBait Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martin_sonderegger@bluewin.ch 141 Posted August 12, 2012 Switching 'are you friendly' for 'give me your stuff' is pretty much the biggest difference between bandits and friendlies, so yes, obviously you are correct. The problem is that your statement applies to every single group. Any group approaching and saying 'give me your stuff' is obviously a bandit group.For added amusement in this conversation, I'm a volunteer reserve deputy for the LAPD, so I'm already pretending to be a police man anyway. Lol.Well, I'd say Dr. Wastelands team are certainly something different, but I see your point.So you are one of ? :PWe are an anti-bandit group. We are just as brutal as them but we direct that brutality towards them. We are a military police faction. Think of it as and elevation above a police state with martial law in effect.So you're not rally better than us, just on the other side of the law, I can live with that. I hope to shoot see some of you in-game, at least the survivors aren't completely pussified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel Knight 427 Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) Well, I'd say Dr. Wastelands team are certainly something different, but I see your point.So you are one of ? :PLol. I would love to see some guys get into the whitelisted medic group, then run around executing people. Would make calling for a medic have some risks. They would get kicked out pretty quickly, but it would be funny. Edited August 12, 2012 by ZombieBait Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gyzmo392 0 Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) sign me up!my skype is gyzmo392 Edited August 12, 2012 by gyzmo392 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrsundgren 0 Posted August 12, 2012 Sign me up mate! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel Knight 427 Posted August 12, 2012 Get this thing rolling OP, I wanna watch from a safe distance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duelen 0 Posted August 12, 2012 Lol. I would love to see some guys get into the whitelisted medic group, then run around executing people. Would make calling for a medic have some risks. They would get kicked out pretty quickly, but it would be funny.Ya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeaguirre0 11 Posted August 13, 2012 Well, I'd say Dr. Wastelands team are certainly something different, but I see your point.So you are one of ? :PSo you're not rally better than us, just on the other side of the law, I can live with that. I hope to shoot see some of you in-game, at least the survivors aren't completely pussified.We "rally" are better than you in the sense that we are on the morale good high ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeaguirre0 11 Posted August 13, 2012 Get this thing rolling OP, I wanna watch from a safe distance.This has been rolling for a long time. We already have 20+ people. Just wouldn't hurt to have more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites