(Rocket) Why are we logging in on the coast

[sixbarns 217]

A.) test the game and report bugs

or

B.) Cry anytime any bug emerges and demand instant fixes

Which do you guys think we're supposed to be doing in an early build of a mod?

Edited August 12, 2012 by Super67_

[A Bush killed me 189]

I'm admiring the fact Rocket or any forum mod/admin has stepped up to address us yet of this issue.

Please respond

Dude this isnt reddit or 4chan. He wont respond here.

also

Aliens.

Edited August 12, 2012 by A Bush killed me

[Siggy (DayZ) 95]

This is affecting more then 1% of the player base lol.. this is like the only thing people are talking about on the forums right now, as for the rude cunt up above, i hope your game shits itself so we can all sit here and laugh at you when your complaining.

[Askar 177]

This is affecting more then 1% of the player base lol.. this is like the only thing people are talking about on the forums right now, as for the rude cunt up above, i hope your game shits itself so we can all sit here and laugh at you when your complaining.

I didn't mean to imply that only 1% were effected, I was just saying that even if it were only one percent, it's still a big deal. I'm quite aware of the multitude of posts regarding the subject.

[Devmagic 36]

ooooooh guys how bout this? stick to one server that plays well for you and stop trying to server hop for gear or the unfair advantage in a pvp fight. hackers will ruin the game for you none the less but at least there fixing "legit" ways to cheat.

[osirish 165]

Where I can certainly see the frustration of a lot of posters here ... there are some positives.

Connection issues

1. Everyone started on the coast ... updating to 1.7.2.5 and joining a server running the same version did that.

2. Everyone not updated to 1.7.2.5 is going to have login problems to servers running that version.

3. Six launcher does not update to 1.7.2.5, DayZ Commander does. Make sure you have to the right version as the server you are trying to join.

Negatives to the feature (if it is a feature)

Almost everything written above in the thread.

Positives to the feature

1. No more players server hopping for loot.

2. (A by-product of number 1) ... less buildings barbed wire barricaded by those same loot hoppers.

3. No more players server hopping from building to building and mountain to mountain just to snipe people and grow their murder count.

4. No more ALT+F4gs leaving the server if they are shot at to join another server with complete immunity.

5. No more players ALT+F4ing to bandage and heal on another server before rejoining the fight.

6. No more ghosting in a firefight for unfair advantage.

7. Encourages people to find nice, well managed servers, to join and stick with and therefore less admin abuse problems.

8. Encourages people to become regulars on a server and maybe actually get to know the community(s) there. Less pew pew when you know some of the players on the server from regular interaction with them, as opposed to shooting everyone just because you don't know or trust them. On the other hand, you can still pew pew if you want.

9. It stops players from ghosting in from other servers on raids and bypassing barriers and defences. (When the standalone comes, and players are able to build bases and underground bunkers etc. What is the point if other players can just materialise inside your santuary from another server?)

10. It helps to stop stream sniping for those that live stream.

All of these things have numerous threads, day, after day, after day, complaining about them. Now they have been largely resolved. Maybe they will be replaced with other types of complaint threads, who knows?

Yes ... there are going to be problems with dicks sniping new spawns on the coast, but they do this in the towns anyway. It won't be an issue if you are able to find and stick to a server that you like.

If the mod had had this "feature" from the start, there wouldn't have been any complaints, but the way the change was introduced, (again, if it is a feature and not a bug), it feels like something was taken away. It is a change, and people hate change, especially if it impacts how they play the mod. I get the negatives, but few are mentioning the positives. I'm interested to see if player numbers drop because of the change, or if they remain static/increase once all the servers have updated.

[Littleassassin2 73]

Needs to be fixed asap, honestly fuck this crap it's so annoying, server hop because there is a hacker on it, get punished anyway.

Edit: My mate just tested this server hop theory and it does seem to be the problem, he was on skalisty island and ended up at drakon.

Reasons to not have this shit:

1) forget the server you're on

2)hackers

3)lag

4)night time with no nvg, who wants to play when they can't see shit?

5)glitching

6)home server not listed in six launcher/updater even with restarting the program multiple times

7) do not wish to play on server anymore for w/e reason

8)kicked/banned from server for bs reason

9)admin abuse

10)incompetant/annoying/bs community on server

[DerpyHooves (DayZ) 1]

Yeah, made an account to say I'm NOT happy with this. Logged on and was at the coast near Cherno. All of a sudden I get hit with a 50 cal. and go down. Just lost my char of 12 days to this shit, I should have been safely up in the northern forest.

[Siggy (DayZ) 95]

ooooooh guys how bout this? stick to one server that plays well for you and stop trying to server hop for gear or the unfair advantage in a pvp fight. hackers will ruin the game for you none the less but at least there fixing "legit" ways to cheat.

You are possibly the dumbest person i have seen on this forum, have you not read a single post on here? have you not seen the countless amount of people saying they have to hop servers to find 1 without lag? servers randomly get hackers on them to and we are forced to log off otherwise we will die, next time use your brain before you post dumbshit.

[Womb Raider 92]

That's a pretty stupid attitude. Yes, this is a mod. Yes, it is an alpha mod at that.

Yes, it is our job to find and report bugs. It is also our duty to help rocket & co determine what features are working and which ones need to be changed immediately. Maybe most people here are complaining, but they have a right to. Just because this isn't happening to YOU doesn't mean it doesn't matter. It's happening to someone, and that in itself is enough of a reason to have a thread about the issue so that we can get rocket's attention to this very dire issue. Even if it only effects 1% of the playerbase, this is a gamebreaking bug for that 1%. That's just unacceptable. Noone is expecting rocket to fix it this very instant, but he needs to get it done ASAP.

I don't even know if I am effected by this 'feature' since I can't play yet, but the fact that it's effecting these people is pretty serious.

Don't expect anyone to give a damn when you're unable to play due to some broken feature or random bug if you're going to be such an ass about it.

I agree with everything you've said. It just gets very tiring when you've been here as long as I have and seen some of the complaining people do.

Hopefully Rocket can address this issue for you guys. I am yet to play too, so I may very well come back here and complain, oh the irony, haha.

[Devmagic 36]

Where I can certainly see the frustration of a lot of posters here ... there are some positives.

Connection issues

1. Everyone started on the coast ... updating to 1.7.2.5 and joining a server running the same version did that.

2. Everyone not updated to 1.7.2.5 is going to have login problems to servers running that version.

3. Six launcher does not update to 1.7.2.5, DayZ Commander does. Make sure you have to the right version as the server you are trying to join.

Negatives to the feature (if it is a feature)

Almost everything written above in the thread.

Positives to the feature

1. No more players server hopping for loot.

2. (A by-product of number 1) ... less buildings barbed wire barricaded by those same loot hoppers.

3. No more players server hopping from building to building and mountain to mountain just to snipe people and grow their murder count.

4. No more ALT+F4gs leaving the server if they are shot at to join another server with complete immunity.

5. No more players ALT+F4ing to bandage and heal on another server before rejoining the fight.

6. No more ghosting in a firefight for unfair advantage.

7. Encourages people to find nice, well managed servers, to join and stick with and therefore less admin abuse problems.

8. Encourages people to become regulars on a server and maybe actually get to know the community(s) there. Less pew pew when you know some of the players on the server from regular interaction with them, as opposed to shooting everyone just because you don't know or trust them. On the other hand, you can still pew pew if you want.

9. It stops players from ghosting in from other servers on raids and bypassing barriers and defences. (When the standalone comes, and players are able to build bases and underground bunkers etc. What is the point if other players can just materialise inside your santuary from another server?)

10. It helps to stop stream sniping for those that live stream.

All of these things have numerous threads, day, after day, after day, complaining about them. Now they have been largely resolved. Maybe they will be replaced with other types of complaint threads, who knows?

Yes ... there are going to be problems with dicks sniping new spawns on the coast, but they do this in the towns anyway. It won't be an issue if you are able to find and stick to a server that you like.

If the mod had had this "feature" from the start, there wouldn't have been any complaints, but the way the change was introduced, (again, if it is a feature and not a bug), it feels like something was taken away. It is a change, and people hate change, especially if it impacts how they play the mod. I get the negatives, but few are mentioning the positives. I'm interested to see if player numbers drop because of the change, or if they remain static/increase once all the servers have updated.

Where I can certainly see the frustration of a lot of posters here ... there are some positives.

Connection issues

1. Everyone started on the coast ... updating to 1.7.2.5 and joining a server running the same version did that.

2. Everyone not updated to 1.7.2.5 is going to have login problems to servers running that version.

3. Six launcher does not update to 1.7.2.5, DayZ Commander does. Make sure you have to the right version as the server you are trying to join.

Negatives to the feature (if it is a feature)

Almost everything written above in the thread.

Positives to the feature

1. No more players server hopping for loot.

2. (A by-product of number 1) ... less buildings barbed wire barricaded by those same loot hoppers.

3. No more players server hopping from building to building and mountain to mountain just to snipe people and grow their murder count.

4. No more ALT+F4gs leaving the server if they are shot at to join another server with complete immunity.

5. No more players ALT+F4ing to bandage and heal on another server before rejoining the fight.

6. No more ghosting in a firefight for unfair advantage.

7. Encourages people to find nice, well managed servers, to join and stick with and therefore less admin abuse problems.

8. Encourages people to become regulars on a server and maybe actually get to know the community(s) there. Less pew pew when you know some of the players on the server from regular interaction with them, as opposed to shooting everyone just because you don't know or trust them. On the other hand, you can still pew pew if you want.

9. It stops players from ghosting in from other servers on raids and bypassing barriers and defences. (When the standalone comes, and players are able to build bases and underground bunkers etc. What is the point if other players can just materialise inside your santuary from another server?)

10. It helps to stop stream sniping for those that live stream.

All of these things have numerous threads, day, after day, after day, complaining about them. Now they have been largely resolved. Maybe they will be replaced with other types of complaint threads, who knows?

Yes ... there are going to be problems with dicks sniping new spawns on the coast, but they do this in the towns anyway. It won't be an issue if you are able to find and stick to a server that you like.

If the mod had had this "feature" from the start, there wouldn't have been any complaints, but the way the change was introduced, (again, if it is a feature and not a bug), it feels like something was taken away. It is a change, and people hate change, especially if it impacts how they play the mod. I get the negatives, but few are mentioning the positives. I'm interested to see if player numbers drop because of the change, or if they remain static/increase once all the servers have updated.

*CLAP CLAP* Beans for you sir

[jem73 7]

the better question is why are they so concerned with server hopping? Why is it such a big deal if items, gear, and progress disappears randomly ALL THE DAMN TIME? It's kind of silly to think that players would not take shortcuts to get their items back when they lose all of their stuff because of problems that are out of their control. I spent two days finding a ghillie, AS50, M9SD, etc. legit and then lost it ALL to a glitch ONE HOUR LATER. Half the damn servers don't even respawn ANY items in locations where they are supposed to much less good items. Half the servers do not have a good connection and it seems like more than half have hackers who will just teleport to me and kill me anyway. How could you punish somebody for something that is NECESSARY because the game has such shitty, gamebreaking flaws?

I could see this type of prevention if the game was working correctly, but at this point in time, they are spending more time preventing things that people are doing to recover from game breaking glitches/problems instead of the glitches/problems themselves.

Edited August 12, 2012 by jem73

[Devmagic 36]

You are possibly the dumbest person i have seen on this forum, have you not read a single post on here? have you not seen the countless amount of people saying they have to hop servers to find 1 without lag? servers randomly get hackers on them to and we are forced to log off otherwise we will die, next time use your brain before you post dumbshit.

I find the ones throwing around the insults are the ones who have had their precious ghosting techniques taken away from them. I'm not gonna stoop to your level and start insulting people at the drop of a hat. Need i remind everyone of the first rule of Chernarus?

Yes it's unfortunate, hell it happened to me too, but i dont remember a time when people weren't getting sniped in these areas so whats new....

[Siggy (DayZ) 95]

I find the ones throwing around the insults are the ones who have had their precious ghosting techniques taken away from them. I'm not gonna stoop to your level and start insulting people at the drop of a hat. Need i remind everyone of the first rule of Chernarus?

Yes it's unfortunate, hell it happened to me too, but i dont remember a time when people weren't getting sniped in these areas so whats new....

Lol....... i don't even have to comment after that, you clearly haven't read anything. I am talking about legit players and here you are talking about ghosting, do you honestly think people want to run all the way north to have there net dc or something and end up back on the coast? maybe the server restarts or shits itself. So before you come on here and start talking random shit, use your brain a little and think about all the other people, the legit ones.

Edited August 12, 2012 by Siggy

[JamesR 74]

I find the ones throwing around the insults are the ones who have had their precious ghosting techniques taken away from them. I'm not gonna stoop to your level and start insulting people at the drop of a hat. Need i remind everyone of the first rule of Chernarus?

Yes it's unfortunate, hell it happened to me too, but i dont remember a time when people weren't getting sniped in these areas so whats new....

Whats new??? Now I start out on the coast everytime a server won't load that's what's new.

[Devmagic 36]

Anyone tried posting in the suggestion forum?

[Devmagic 36]

Lol....... i don't even have to comment after that, you clearly haven't read anything. I am talking about legit players and here you are talking about ghosting, do you honestly think people want to run all the way north to have there net dc or something and end up back on the coast? maybe the server restarts or shits itself. So before you come on here and start talking random shit, use your brain a little and think about all the other people, the legit ones.

Tried jumping back on the same server, bet that won't happen. If he didn't people would still be upset with all the "ghosting" so how would you combat both these issues?

[Siggy (DayZ) 95]

Tried jumping back on the same server, bet that won't happen. If he didn't people would still be upset with all the "ghosting" so how would you combat both these issues?

I haven't been ghosted, if you shoot at somebody don't be stupid enough to sit in the same spot, get up and move, keep your eye on the player list and be prepared, problem solved.

[Powell (DayZ) 734]

Only happened to me once when I got the update...hasnt happened after that, so far

I'm currently waiting on the next patch before I play again. Sorry, despite what people say, I like my gear that I worked hard for and don't intend to lose it to some glitch. If I die, whatever. But to a glitch that we KNOW is present? Nope

EDIT: Also to the "new feature" involved in server hopping apparently, I don't agree with it. There have been NUMEROUS times when I would log into a server, and then my friend would say "hold on, I can't get into that server. Let's try another" or vice versa.

So...am I supposed to leave and spawn on the coast?.. Hell no. And apparently its the same spawn point, so some dude with a hatchet can just camp that spawn until someone joins and then chop them to death before their game even loads

Edited August 12, 2012 by Powell

[Devmagic 36]

I haven't been ghosted, if you shoot at somebody don't be stupid enough to sit in the same spot, get up and move, keep your eye on the player list and be prepared, problem solved.

Tried this method on a high pop server, not as easy as you make it seem. Kudos to you on your ability to move and look at the player list at the same time.

[Siggy (DayZ) 95]

Tried this method on a high pop server, not as easy as you make it seem. Kudos to you on your ability to move and look at the player list at the same time.

I play with a group.

[Devmagic 36]

I play with a group.

So do i, but not everyone does, therefore instant disadvantage to them lone wolves. I think rocket's motives were good though the execution may be a little flawed. Honestly what i find hard to believe is that everyone like to quote "alpha" and "don't get attached to your gear" (which btw i have been told many a time) so i don't see why it's different with regards to this.

[Siggy (DayZ) 95]

So do i, but not everyone does, therefore instant disadvantage to them lone wolves. I think rocket's motives were good though the execution may be a little flawed. Honestly what i find hard to believe is that everyone like to quote "alpha" and "don't get attached to your gear" (which btw i have been told many a time) so i don't see why it's different with regards to this.

Your like a little fly, you just won't go away, leave the thread already, i for 1 am sick of seeing your stupid posts.

[Devmagic 36]

Your like a little fly, you just won't go away, leave the thread already, i for 1 am sick of seeing your stupid posts.

Oh yes because debates are solved so much better with everyone being on the same side, and insulting everyone who doesn't join them. How very Christian of you.

[Siggy (DayZ) 95]

My side of the debate is obviously winning, 95% of the player base would rather have this shit fixed, while the other 5% ( your team) want it to stay, because of "ghosters". and "server hoppers".

Edited August 12, 2012 by Siggy