When are you really gonna to stop OFF-MAP vehicle hoarders!!

[syncmaster (DayZ) 63]

I'll just go out on a limb and guess that Rocket assumed that people who died would lose their stuff. So the idea of people dying 10 times and not losing anything never occurred to him.

I know, I know, he really should have focused on making the game easier for people instead of that whole "if you die, you start over" nonsense, but it's too late now. We're down the rabbit hole. Next thing you know he's going to get rid of tents and reinstate permadeath to the game. And then people will actually have to keep looking for loot instead of just serverhopping, hoarding, and then stashing it all.

Followed by one of the best posts I've read in a while. People seem to forget about permadeath and just look for ways to get around it. Hoarding stuff of map is the sure fire way to beat death. At least inside the game map your stuff is never 100% safe.

I imagine someday people will be forced to really die, and I expected a lot of complaints and people leaving the game. It will be a great day for the real dayz community.

[osirish 165]

This is the worst post I've ever read on these forums, and that is saying a lot. First you admit that you agreed at one point, but then you finally found a few cars and want to so the same thing. On top of that, now you are insulting people who agree with the same thing you once did.

The only ones being "carebears" are the people who want their cars to be untouchable. Stop blaming hackers because its impossible to hide anything bigger than an ATV.

+1 for exaggeration.

I do not have a vehicle at the moment.

I am saying that the offmap area has become a valid place.

I am saying that if players want to find vehicles, it is possible to find them there. Difficult, yes, impossible, no.

I am saying that this mod is supposed to be unfair, and it is supposed to be hard.

I am saying that a 6 hour wipe was supposed to be in place and isn't working at the moment.

I am saying that if I wanted a vehicle, I could find one, I would just have to work a little harder.

Perhaps what I didn't say, was that 1st world problems like these probably won't be an issue in the stand alone game.

But whatever, ... worst post you've ever seen? Good luck with that.

[Delta Smoke 01 765]

Id support the 2 hour then vehicle respawns post. 24 hours seems a bit pointless to me as the owners could simply start the engine once a day to prevent it vanishing.

[shazbot04 34]

If i had to guess they will fix it August 10th at about 6:17 est . Its my gut feeling

[F4ll3N 28]

Vehicles parked off the map should be destroyed and respawned on server restarts

[bazbake 456]

I am saying that this mod is supposed to be unfair, and it is supposed to be hard.

...

Uh...so it's supposed to be unfair now that the game is unfair in your favor?

Good luck with that one.

You know what makes the game hard? Losing all your stuff when you die. But right now, you can't even guarantee that.

[syncmaster (DayZ) 63]

+1 for exaggeration.

I do not have a vehicle at the moment.

I am saying that the offmap area has become a valid place.

I am saying that if players want to find vehicles, it is possible to find them there. Difficult, yes, impossible, no.

I am saying that this mod is supposed to be unfair, and it is supposed to be hard.

I am saying that a 6 hour wipe was supposed to be in place and isn't working at the moment.

I am saying that if I wanted a vehicle, I could find one, I would just have to work a little harder.

Perhaps what I didn't say, was that 1st world problems like these probably won't be an issue in the stand alone game.

But whatever, ... worst post you've ever seen? Good luck with that.

You are on fire man. Who are you to decide what is "valid" or not and what makes you think you know what the mod is supposed to be all about.

I would say that is up to rocket/dayz team, and they have (tried to) put a stop to it.

[Herr Robert 28]

Id support the 2 hour then vehicle respawns post. 24 hours seems a bit pointless to me as the owners could simply start the engine once a day to prevent it vanishing.

Yes, it is. I can speak from experience since I have kept a truck off the map for 2-3 weeks. If you have a spare account, it's easy to have your login point next to the vehicles and save them once per day, which takes maybe 5 minutes at most.

[Banicks 55]

Why are you so angry about vehicles being hoarded?

If a group of individuals has the capability to locate, repair and maintain vehicles they have every right to hoard them in locations, as long as they're on-map. Power to them.

Im pretty sure off map vehicles do respawn...dont quote me though, I just seem to remember a notation of that a 1.7.# patch ago, along with a complete tent and vehicle reset via hive.

[pepsiblue 8]

So I guess, I am dumb. But, lemme guess. Where the map for Chenarus ends. you can keep going into the woods... and... nothing is there? but endless fields? IS there random animals? random deerstands? Anything?

[osirish 165]

You are on fire man. Who are you to decide what is "valid" or not and what makes you think you know what the mod is supposed to be all about.

I would say that is up to rocket/dayz team, and they have (tried to) put a stop to it.

sync, you are obviously trolling now. 2 attacks and not a single constructive point.

Who am I?

I am a player and my thoughts, suggestions, and opinions are as "valid" as anyone else's.

I disagreed with the OP, and I said why.

You disagree with me and, well that's about it, bar the hostility.

What makes me think you know what the mod is supposed to be all about?

I haven't said I did. My statements are based on the interviews that Rocket has given, and the opinions that Dev's have posted in the past.

The use of the off-map area for vehicle movement and tactical advantage was actually a Dev's comment in the patch notes that discussed the off-map tent wipe and the 6 hour vehicle respawn timer. Read the "What Rocket said" thread and maybe you'll actually learn where I am coming from regarding the difficulty level, balance, and fairness of the mod.

Regardless, no doubt you'll decide to attack again, so I'll just leave this here .... you have 219 posts and 21 tins of beans. Not a lot of love there.

[osirish 165]

So I guess, I am dumb. But, lemme guess. Where the map for Chenarus ends. you can keep going into the woods... and... nothing is there? but endless fields? IS there random animals? random deerstands? Anything?

Random animals are there, yes. But there is nothing else, no trees, buildings, or features, just hills and valleys.

[MADDSNIPER 1]

Vehicles parked off the map should be destroyed and respawned on server restarts

i agree 100%. please listen devs, 90% of the people posting here think it needs looked at.

[Fribox 34]

Make cars less rare, problem solved.

Z Day in real life? Cars wouldn't be hard to find at all. Fuel and parts would be hard to find.

Id rather have alot of cars anyways, they are a really fun part of the game.

[syncmaster (DayZ) 63]

sync, you are obviously trolling now. 2 attacks and not a single constructive point.

Who am I?

I am a player and my thoughts, suggestions, and opinions are as "valid" as anyone else's.

I disagreed with the OP, and I said why.

You disagree with me and, well that's about it, bar the hostility.

What makes me think you know what the mod is supposed to be all about?

I haven't said I did. My statements are based on the interviews that Rocket has given, and the opinions that Dev's have posted in the past.

The use of the off-map area for vehicle movement and tactical advantage was actually a Dev's comment in the patch notes that discussed the off-map tent wipe and the 6 hour vehicle respawn timer. Read the "What Rocket said" thread and maybe you'll actually learn where I am coming from regarding the difficulty level, balance, and fairness of the mod.

Regardless, no doubt you'll decide to attack again, so I'll just leave this here .... you have 219 posts and 21 tins of beans. Not a lot of love there.

Yep, anyone that disagrees with you must be trolling.

Sorry I offended offended you, I will stop. Didn't mean to be rude, like calling everyone carebears and pointing out post/bean counts like they matter.

[Frodo Douchebaggins 0]

When people talk about storing stuff off map, are you saying "outside of what the pretty map shows" or "out past the line where the plants stop growing"?

[hackusate 40]

I can see all vehicles on the server on my map, and I can tell you now that very few vehicles are on the outskirts. most of them (like 90%) are still within bounds and very accessible. If you would like I can post an image of just how many vehicles there are scattered around on any given server.

[unSeen 1 16]

i haven't read anything except the first post in this topic, but I assure you off map vehicles disappear. trust me, I know from experience. I've only found 3 vehicles in dayz, a tractor, bus, and a truck. lost the tractor because 2 of the wheels were outside the map, lost the truck and the bus because of a hacker.

[Redshift 58]

When people talk about storing stuff off map, are you saying "outside of what the pretty map shows" or "out past the line where the plants stop growing"?

The line past which nothing renders, not even grass. It is obvious and unmistakable.

[Frodo Douchebaggins 0]

The line past which nothing renders, not even grass. It is obvious and unmistakable.

Yeah I've been past there, didn't realize stuff would stay there if you put it… interesting.

[MitchRan91 25]

I imagine alot of people will not agree with this however;

This is meant to be a zombie simulator and realistic, so how does having your car blow up after 6 hours create that? Infact going further with this, there wouldn't be any fuel left in rl so in turn there would be no cars at all.. Anyway getting off point.

Most people commenting on this, have never used a vehicle or kept one for any about of time, they have simply seen on youtube you can get trucks or a bus and now are bitching they haven't got one after 20 minutes of searching and blaming hoarers. The thrill of finding a vehicle is FUN, the task of then maintening and keeping secure is FUN. I've used 4 vehicles in the past month and abit i've been playing. And only just managed to keep a vehicle for the past 3 days. Then we found another, we stored it, we drove it, crashed it, moved on.

I have no problem if people want to store something off map, I just have to search alittle bit harder, but for everyone moaning:

1. Maybe alot of the vehicles have been destoryed.
   
2. Maybe don't just search where the loot map says there will be a vehicle.
   
3. Switch server
   
4. Or, just play the game, and you'll find one when you find one.
   

I imagine now that this will be trolled but oh well, it is the internet, Just i thought I should let you know that. I don't hoar off map, I'm too lazy to drive/walk back that far..

[AllYoYens 34]

You want it? Go find it.

[DemonGroover 8836]

Hoarding off map is ultra soft cock.

[bazbake 456]

"There are no vehicles out there past the edges of the map."

Hopes no one calls his bluff and steals his Ural while he's away.

[stord 74]

I couldn't disagree more with anyone defending the off-limits vehicles hoarding.

How could anyone walk hand to hand with this unfair and ridiculous idea?

Off-limits means off-limits. Out of bounds. Out of game.

Do you really think everyone has the time to walk all the way around the map and go off-limits everyday, only to find a single vehicle? Like we weren't already walking enough in Dayz.

People who play this game a lot clearly have a huge advantage and I have no problem with that. However, when it comes to discuss wether or not vehicles should be allowed to go off-limits, I'm seriously disturbed one can honestly defend this ''valid'' point, like it has been said above.

It's so obviously unfair that I wonder why I even have to write this post...

Edited August 10, 2012 by StOrD