I need real technical advise

[Roy0441 9]

Everyone who has older cpu's and new computers are getting much better frames than me. this has been really bothering me. there is no reason my computer should be underperforming.

I have a 8150 8 core processor at stock settings at 40 degrees idle and 50 degrees on load. I also have a 6970 HD Radeon GPU at stock settings, 900core 1400memory at 65~67 degrees at load. I noticed also while my GPU is being used it is only at 30% usage at best. If im geting such terrible frames why isnt my GPU at like max load trying to make these frames at there best performance? I have installed Cataclyst 12.7 Beta (software specs say 11.8 from some internal glitch in its own software) I am not running anything overclocked. I am using the lowest settings possible except for my native resolution to keep images sharp.

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Here are my full System Specs:

Win7 Home Premium 64bit

AMD FX 8150 Zambezi 8-Core 3.6Ghz

Antec25 Kuhler H2O 620 AMD Setup

Corsair Vengeance (4x 4GB) 16GB DDR3 1600mhz

HIS IceQ TurboRadeon HD 6970 2GB

MSI 970A-G45 AM3+ AMD 970 ATX AMD Motherboard

NZXT M59 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

Thermaltake BlackWidow 850W PC Gaming ATX Power Supply TR2 RX 80 Plus Bronze

22.5" Acer LCD Widescreen Monitor

5.1 Logitech Surround Sound

Turtle Beach EarForce PX21 Headset

Logitech G105 (MW3) Keyboard

Logitech M-BZ96C Corded USB Optical Mouse

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Arma2OA.cfg are as follows:

language="English";

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Resolution_Bpp=32;

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nonlocalVRAM=922605568;

vsync=1;

AToC=0;

FXAA=0;

Windowed=0;

PPAA=0;

PPAA_Level=0;

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Roy.Arma2OAProfile.cfg are as follows:

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These are my current start up parameters:

/High -winxp -exthreads=7 -nosplash -world=empty -mexmem=8192 -maxVRAM=2047 -cpucount=8 -malloc-system

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I Have also installed the Windows 7 patches that are for my 8150 8 core processor.

http://downloads.gur...nload-2831.html

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I would like to know what may be wrong with my system. If anyone would like to help me through teamviewer or walk me through on teamspeak that would be awesome. I also do not know if maybe Directx of any version is up to current dates or where to install them if they arent. I should not be at these frames with these specs even on lowest settings. 60 outside of city, 20-35 in city on Very Low settings.

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I have used multiple treads as follows:

http://forums.bistud...-2-Optimization

http://forums.bistud...ons-comparisons

http://community.bis...rtup_Parameters

http://www.realitymo...nce-tweaks.html

http://dayzmod.com/f...se-performance/

[gambla 118]

Understand that DAYZ is the mod, ArmA is the game engine. So this is an issue for the BI Forums. It's normal that your GPU isn't allways at 100% as ArmA is also CPU heavy. In these cases your CPU is limiting the GPU, that happens often usually in big Cities, and/or many AI units. Test the HDR precision with the value "0", it may be overwritten again. Check you startup parameters against an ArmA Wiki, there is no need for -winxp. What more... if you have some budget left, buy a small 60 gig SSD only for the Arma installation. Another fact is that ArmA seems to run better with Intel CPUs, but that doesn't help now.

[Naka (DayZ) 4]

Same processor and GPU, tried everything, you're out of luck unless you want to OC or decrease resolution.

Overclocked my CPU +1GHZ (have a large 60$ cooler on it) and I manage to get a decent FPS boost. 30-40 in cities, now. 50-80 outside cities.

For me, CPU usage isn't near max but OCing the CPU somehow increases both CPU and GPU usage for me, now GPU usage is ~50-55 as opposed to 30%.

Since we seem to be CPU limited, close any applications that may use CPU (especially Six Launcher). May want to try setting audio settings to lowest, though don't know if it has any impact on CPU usage.

I have an SSD and a RAM drive didn't help, but you should try since you have 16GB.

Decreasing your resolution should give you the biggest FPS boost. Try 50% of 1080p with FXAA sharp filter on to counteract the blurriness.

Edited August 6, 2012 by Naka

[Roy0441 9]

What do you mean by this line "Try 50% of 1080p with FXAA sharp filter on to counteract the blurriness" and what resolution do you recommend? My monitor doesnt like to look crisp outside its native or recommended resolution for gaming. a lot of image tearing and blurriness accures with this. As from what ive seen computers with Intel i5 and i7 cores are working just fine with dayz using 570 series gtx nvidea. It will have to be on my list of updates when i advance.

[Naka (DayZ) 4]

What do you mean by this line "Try 50% of 1080p with FXAA sharp filter on to counteract the blurriness" and what resolution do you recommend? My monitor doesnt like to look crisp outside its native or recommended resolution for gaming. a lot of image tearing and blurriness accures with this. As from what ive seen computers with Intel i5 and i7 cores are working just fine with dayz using 570 series gtx nvidea. It will have to be on my list of updates when i advance.

The image won't look sharp unless it's on your native resolution. Pick what you hate the least, blurriness or low FPS.

Any resolution below your native should give you a boost. FXAA Sharp Filter is a video setting that sharpens the image, it can make the image appear less blurry but it will never be as good as if you just used your native resolution.

I don't know about image tearing but my monitor is high end and never tears, I would strongly advise against using vsync but in your case you may have to.

[Ag3nt Richt3r 19]

Everyone who has older cpu's and new computers are getting much better frames than me. this has been really bothering me. there is no reason my computer should be underperforming.

I have a 8150 8 core processor at stock settings at 40 degrees idle and 50 degrees on load. I also have a 6970 HD Radeon GPU at stock settings, 900core 1400memory at 65~67 degrees at load. I noticed also while my GPU is being used it is only at 30% usage at best. If im geting such terrible frames why isnt my GPU at like max load trying to make these frames at there best performance? I have installed Cataclyst 12.7 Beta (software specs say 11.8 from some internal glitch in its own software) I am not running anything overclocked. I am using the lowest settings possible except for my native resolution to keep images sharp.

This is your first problem, delete your ArmA 2 user profiles and configs and start from scratch. Put all your settings to med or med high. I have a similar rig to yours and I run everything on high settings without any problems. Putting everything on low settings forces ArmA 2 to use your CPU instead of your GPU which is causing alot of unneeded stress on your system. You also may want to verify that you don't have any unneeded programs running in the background, and that "Power Saving" features are disabled, this is more an issue with laptops, but its worth a look.

These are my current start up parameters:

/High -winxp -exthreads=7 -nosplash -world=empty -mexmem=8192 -maxVRAM=2047 -cpucount=8 -malloc-system

Get rid of all this nonsense, you don't need it. The only thing you may want to use on the startup parameters is:

-nosplash -beta=Expansion\beta;Expansion\beta\Expansion -mod=@dayz

You also may want to double check your BIOS settings and make sure you don't have something set incorrectly that could be causing a bottleneck in your performance.

I work 60+ hours a week, but I can help you this weekend if you still need assistance. Add me on Steam, user ID is in my sig.

Edited August 8, 2012 by Ag3nt Richt3r

[Naka (DayZ) 4]

This is your first problem, delete your ArmA 2 user profiles and configs and start from scratch. Put all your settings to med or med high. I have a similar rig to yours and I run everything on high settings without any problems. Putting everything on low settings forces ArmA 2 to use your CPU instead of your GPU which is causing alot of unneeded stress on your system. You also may want to verify that you don't have any unneeded programs running in the background, and that "Power Saving" features are disabled, this is more an issue with laptops, but its worth a look.

Get rid of all this nonsense, you don't need it. The only thing you may want to use on the startup parameters is:

-nosplash -beta=Expansion\beta;Expansion\beta\Expansion -mod=@dayz

You also may want to double check your BIOS settings and make sure you don't have something set incorrectly that could be causing a bottleneck in your performance.

I work 60+ hours a week, but I can help you this weekend if you still need assistance. Add me on Steam, user ID is in my sig.

I have the same GPU/CPU as him and have "tried everything", so I will counter your post.

Using any settings higher than the lowest settings does not increase FPS for me. It results in a noticable drop in FPS. I've read elsewhere that only the shadows video option is rendered on CPU when set to "low" and GPU at ~"medium" settings. If he's truly running it on lowest, he has shadows disabled meaning this is irrelevant. The rest of his config looks perfectly normal to me, it doesn't look like he has tried any optimization advice like setting sceneComplexity, disablign vSync and setting GPU_MaxFramesAhead/GPU_DetectedFramesAhead. That said, he should try out all video settings himself. It wouldn't be a bad idea for him to reset the config, though I highly doubt it would increase his FPS.

I'm certain he has all that "nonsense" in his command line because he didn't get good frames in the first place. -exthreads=7 increases my fps as opposed to lower values. -world=empty does nothing but improve startup time, but increases load times. -maxvram2047 should be the proper setting for our GPU, though our GPU doesn't come close to maxing out memory so this affects nothing. -cpucount=8 has no effect since it's autodetected. -malloc-system is questionable, but I've tried every malloc option and see no significant improvements.

Edited August 8, 2012 by Naka

[Roy0441 9]

I work 60+ hours a week, but I can help you this weekend if you still need assistance. Add me on Steam, user ID is in my sig.

I tried adding you and you blocked me.