Rocket, dude! Can we have old mouse wheel menu back?

[killzone_kid 51]

Is it possible to have the old system of mouse wheel menu interactions implemented along with new system of right mouse clicks in gear?

I mean for example actions like bandage yourself and take painkillers or take morphine as well as eat and drink were great to be able to access from mouse wheel menu. Why remove them? New interaction is cool too, but why do you have to remove the old one, they can coexist, can they?

[combatcomm1 234]

Is it possible to have the old system of mouse wheel menu interactions implemented along with new system of right mouse clicks in gear?

I mean for example actions like bandage yourself and take painkillers or take morphine as well as eat and drink were great to be able to access from mouse wheel menu. Why remove them? New interaction is cool too' date=' but why do you have to remove the old one, they can coexist, can they?

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Rocket has already states in previous posts that the mouse wheel menu was removed mainly for game performance issues. That system required the game to check things ever second or minute or whatever and put a load on performance. Plus gear menu dosent take that long man.

[killzone_kid 51]

Maybe there is a way to get it back somehow without getting performance hit? It is faster than gear and when you are loosing blood getting bandage quicker is essential.

I don't know specifics, but maybe making it static with some essential commands work?

Or why not to let the game do the check that it performs every second ONLY when you scroll the wheel?

[The Killing Joke 43]

I've used "[" and "]" since I started, since my mouse never registered the menu properly. I think it's still working for the most part when searching bodies, but I have noticed that the "Eat Food" and "Drink Water" menus have disappeared. I'd personally like that to be returned. It can't be a hit on resources, but I can't figure why it would be removed entirely.

[sALADIN1 7]

This would be really good. One time, I was bleeding, and I lost about 2k blood looking for bandages in the mouse wheel menu before I remembered it had been taken out.

[cuca 20]

Dude, no, its good this way, stop being so damm lazy.

[killzone_kid 51]

Lazy? This has nothing to do with lazy. It is about giving user an alternative.

[cuca 20]

Lazy? This has nothing to do with lazy. It is about giving user an alternative.

Alternative? Dude open your backpack and take whatever you want, its not that hard.

G - Right click - Left click and there you go. You are not splitting atoms ffs.

bf3 and cod spoiled you kids too much.

[killzone_kid 51]

Tell ya what, some people enjoy shoving dildos up their arses, and it is fine with me, but don't tell me that because I don't enjoy it too I'm spoiled.

[cuca 20]

Tell ya what' date=' some people enjoy shoving dildos up their arses, and it is fine with me, but don't tell me that because I don't enjoy it too I'm spoiled.

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Fail logic is fail.

You are constantly trying to dumb down the game. The market is full of those kind of games, this one is something different and refreshing. If you dont like it feel free to leave.

[killzone_kid 51]

Dumb down? You are delusional my friend. The mouse wheel menu is in ArmA 2 and was until recently used in DayZ. No one is dumbing down anything.

[humbleuk 76]

An option for the mouse wheel to return would be nice, i can use either way but in all honesty i prefered the old system better.

[AlfalphaCat 66]

I was gonna start another thread on this subject, glad I used search.

I didn't know about the performance issues, but if anything does get put back in the wheel menu, it should be bandages, morphine, and painkillers. Food and water are fine as is.

Those are the only things I think should be optional in the mouse-wheel menu. Argument that it dumbs down the game is moot. Looking at an inventory screen while trying to survive some life threatening situation dumbs it down, also totally pulls you out of the experience.

Now if I need to eat or drink, it sort of makes sense that I will need to take some time to get it out and take the time to consume it. If you were really prepared for this stuff, grabbing a bandage from a specific location on your person, would be near instantaneous. Heck you still need to wait for the animations to play through to get the desired effect.

Also makes me wonder why painkillers are instant, but a morphine syrette takes as long as bandaging. It should take a second to get the child safety cap off. :P

[raviool 2]

morphine should be instant, first aid should be in scroll menu. its FIRST AID for gods sake, you would keep it in a pocket you can reach asap when need arises.

[dharion@drahl.com 5]

If you know how the system works, then you will always have the proper items in your inventory and not in your backpack.

You see your blood dropping? bandage!

You see your screen shaking? Painkillers!

You have broken bones? Morphine!

I actually feel that this system is faster. You don't have to scroll multiple times after an action, you just right click what you need, right click the next thing you need and done.

[AlfalphaCat 66]

For eating and drinking I prefer the new method. I can move food or drink from pack and then eat or drink, without exiting gear and then scrolling.

And yes for multiple tasks it is better, but when you just need to bandage quickly the wheel is preferable.

[madmaxx@madmaxx.info 0]

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You are constantly trying to dumb down the game. The market is full of those kind of games' date=' this one is something different and refreshing. If you dont like it feel free to leave.[/quote']

Easier to use interface has nothing to do with "dumbing down the game". I hear this argument all the time and its ridiculous. Look at chess. Easy to use interface, but does that 'dumb the game down'? Would the game be better if you would need to operate five tools to change the position of a pawn? Nope.

If the difficulty of a game comes from the clunkiness of the interface, its bad game design.

On the other hand, you can make games with great depth that have a very easy to use interface, for example Naval War: Arctic Circle.

OFP, ARMA and ARMA 2 all failed miserably with their interface. Just an example: swap an item in your backpack with one in your inventory if both are full. Easy task, hard to accomplish. Since this is an ARMA 2 mod I guess we have to deal with that.

[silent sniper 18]

Im pretty sure the only reason it was removed was because the game was constantly doing a check of 'Is the player wounded? if true add menu item if false goto start' kind of thing, and I guess 50 players with 3 different checks going on every second or so is going to make a hit on server and client fps/bandwidth.

I personally prefer using the gear interface, it adds that sense of panic to bandaging yourself up. Imagine how you would react if you just had a zombie take a chunk out of your leg, then trying to kill it and stop yourself from bleeding out while in pain.

The game can't simulate that without lengthy animations taking it out of your control. What fun would it be if zombies triggering you to lose blood, only drained 300 blood because of your leet scroll click skills.

[necee 0]

Alternative? Dude open your backpack and take whatever you want' date=' its not that hard.

G - Right click - Left click and there you go. You are not splitting atoms ffs.

bf3 and cod spoiled you kids too much.

...You are constantly trying to dumb down the game. The market is full of those kind of games, this one is something different and refreshing. If you dont like it feel free to leave.

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First off stop using "CoD Bf3 ____" as a way to enforce your side of an argument. It's pathetic. And actually, if anything, the change from the context menu to right clicking in your gear window is "easying" up the game.

Using the context menu to bandage/eat/drink/etc is nice because it's faster, and you have a full field of view while doing these things. As it is now I have to press 'G', auto crouch, have my screen blocked by the gear pop-up-window, right click and then left click and then exit gear. Before all I had to do was hit 'z' or 'x' until I had the command I wanted and press "left ctrl' or 'tab'. While doing so I had a full view of my surroundings.

I like the new system, but I also liked the old system. Some type of compromise would be nice...but that's out of my hands, all I can hope is that the development team takes notice of this thread.

I thought I had seen it mentioned that this gear interaction was still being worked on etc, but I can't find it so I'm probably wrong. meh.