Banned from GB #00 for gun hacking

[psawyer1989@gmail.com 2]

Here is a list of weapons allowed within DayZ.

If Rocket didn't mind others being used he would have just put them in..

http://www.ziip.co.uk/gamingnetwork/showthread.php/884-Clarification-of-weapons-allow-on-our-server

[rikta 12]

So by that reasoning if rocket wanted hacking out of the game he would do something about it?

If the weapon is not supposed to be in the game, and you know that and willingly use it, you are nothing but an exploiter and deserve to be banned.

-Disagree without personal attacks- Dingus

Edited August 6, 2012 by Dingus

[rikta 12]

Some screwed up logic in this thread tbh. Saying "if rocket wanted rid of them he would purge the hive" is utterly flawed, if rocket wanted then IN, they would be in from the start!.

If your using a scripted in weapon after you have been made aware of it being scripted then your cheating. If your not part of the solution, your part of the problem.

Just keep telling yourself you've done nothing wrong.

you are completely illiterate arent you? have you not read any of the previous posts from ages ago about vss vitronez and other weapons that he blacklisted and purged from the game? m107 tws for example. fuck sake get a clue.

[Rudson (DayZ) 61]

I would say most people - me included - here are tired of this. Generally it is always a vicious circle. Admin isn´t allowed to ban, but he does. Weapon isn´t supposed to be in the game, but it is. If player would have known its a hacked weapon, he would have dropped it, for the sake of mankind - assuming he is fair -

What i want to say is just: Think more, bitch less. Everybody will be happier - me included -

so long Rudson.

[hambert06 0]

-Disagree without personal attacks- Dingus

So by your logic, if I pick up a stolen car, and know that it was stolen, if the police come for me I can say I'm ok becuase i didnt steal it?? Might use that in court if it ever happens to me.

Edited August 6, 2012 by Dingus

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

I would say most people - me included - here are tired of this. Generally it is always a vicious circle. Admin isn´t allowed to ban, but he does. Weapon isn´t supposed to be in the game, but it is. If player would have known its a hacked weapon, he would have dropped it, for the sake of mankind - assuming he is fair -

What i want to say is just: Think more, bitch less. Everybody will be happier - me included -

so long Rudson.

Would you feel the same way if he'd have spawned in a helicopter?

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

Aside from the fact there's a glaring contradiction in the server rules for DayZ mod, they significantly out of date. When they were written there was very little scripting going on on servers.

[Rudson (DayZ) 61]

Would you feel the same way if he'd have spawned in a helicopter?

i know we discussed the helothing in a different topic. Got nothing to do with this one. The person accused wasnt hacking, he had found a hacked weapon, and got banned for using it.

[ZiiP_Scottyboy 17]

i know we discussed the helothing in a different topic. Got nothing to do with this one. The person accused wasnt hacking, he had found a hacked weapon, and got banned for using it.

And I should add due to discussion got unbanned, and happy to say has been playing fairly since.

We dont just blanket ban. We warn through rcon chat direct to player, then we kick, then we ban if the matter is not resolved.

We are well aware of the supposed rules for server admins but totally agree with Gogster that server rules have not advanced with the game "yet". Im sure they will.

In the meatime we have a system which has led to one player being a bit wiser and happy to say still playing on our server, as well as a couple of others who have taken time to speak to us on our forum.

I dont think we really need to continue this debate any more as we have differing views as much of this community does. All we want is a server to play on as fairly as possible.

Edited August 6, 2012 by scottyboy

[AADiC 182]

ALL THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT EXPLOITING, lol its pathetic, an exploit isnt the end users fault its the developers. people call camping in games like battlefield an exploit, who cares, if its in the game and you have not used any third party software its fair game, stop being such a butthurt pussy ass bitch. lamewads like you are more irritating than the hackers themselves, at least the hackers can be banned, for some reason we are stuck with fucking girls blouses like you regardless.

You have some serious anger issues, if a game gets your panties into such a bunch, you shouldn't be playing it.

You're right, it's the Dev's faults, but because it is there doesn't mean that it should be done. Most people have something called integrity, obviously you do not.

I think if you ask, most people would be more irritated at your unprovoked fits of rage than me stating that you shouldn't use exploits.

[CrunchyBacon 29]

You are not allowed to ban a person from your own server just for using something they found. Without hard evidence that he/she scripted it in you are the one in the wrong. I hope you feel good about yourself and can sleep at night knowing that. Here read this. and learn it. http://battleye.com/support.html

[DrDru 4]

Allow me to jump in. Also as admin.

We are quite happy to discuss IRJeesos sitiuation and remove ban if we here more from him. But we decided for the good of the people playing our server to put some actions in place.

If someone has a weapon they are not supposed to they get a warning, and kick so they can realise they shouldnt have it. If they continue to ignore that then the ban is put in place. Most genuine people will take the action as I suspect IRJeesos has done here and then we can talk about it in a civil manner. It is a local ban and just means we can try and combat some of the weapons in the game and let people know to try and not use them. Maybe its a fruitless task but its what we have adopted for now, and hey we may change as we go along.

We fully understand the nature of coming across these weapons and limitiation of the current alpha status of the mod as it develops. But we want to ensure that our server remains as true to the way the game is developed as possible and fair as far as items being utlised.

I don't agree to hacking, but with this ignorant response, I hope you get blacklisted. You CANNOT ban someone for having a hacked weapon UNLESS YOU hacked it in.

Shape up admins.

You are not allowed to ban a person from your own server just for using something they found. Without hard evidence that he/she scripted it in you are the one in the wrong. I hope you feel good about yourself and can sleep at night knowing that. Here read this. and learn it. http://battleye.com/support.html

You again? Good lord. That link has nothing to do whats going on here. Stop being a jar head and open your eyes to whats really going on. THESE ARE ALL SERVER BANS, not BattleEye bans.

Edited August 6, 2012 by DrDru

[spoonlamp 12]

I don't agree to hacking, but with this ignorant response, I hope you get blacklisted. You CANNOT ban someone for having a hacked weapon UNLESS YOU hacked it in.

Shape up admins.

You again? Good lord. That link has nothing to do whats going on here. Stop being a jar head and open your eyes to whats really going on. THESE ARE ALL SERVER BANS, not BattleEye bans.

I don't agree to hacking either, but with this ignorant response I hope you get banned from every server with the letter "G" in it, the number "3" in it and any that show the colour "taupe". If they 'CANNOT' ban someone how come they did? Surely you mean they "SHOULDN'T". They've paid to run the server. They have a forum to discuss the game. They are giving warnings about using hacked weapons before kicking. They are kicking before banning. They are only banning after repeated use. Perhaps you should stop being a jar head cup knee and open your eyes to what's really going on...(hint - it's not the Russians...)...or we'll SHIP YOU OUT! (lame military ref + caps lock, yes?) :lol:

[Rudson (DayZ) 61]

You know, everybody knows the rules, rules rocket made, as long as rocket doesn´t change them every admin should stick to it. As simple as it gets. The player now is unbanned, that is fine, i am happy for him. I point my fingers at Admins and to players, all i say is basically: know your frickin stuff and don´t fuck with the rules. When you don´t like the rules, don´t buy a server even if it would mean there are only 2 server left to play on. it would cause a reaction by the dayzteam and maybe the would change something.

so long Rudson.

[IRJesoos 4]

HEY GUYS REMEBER THAT SWEET TIME I WAS UNBANNED AND EVERYONE WAS REAL NICE? I DO!

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

You know it's funny watching everyone jump on here and spout the "you can't ban line" from the server rules. Server admins have been hosting servers for years - more years for me than I care to remember.

On any other game the person kicked off for WHATEVER reason would have nowhere to go. Generally they would come to our forums and bleat about it. Sometimes the ban was lifted, sometimes it wasn't - depending on the persons attitude and what the kick/ban was for.

I have no idea what rights the people coming here to moan about being kicked or banned think they have? Aside from some poorly written rules that are vastly out of date.

We pay for the servers, no one else - you can talk about blacklisting servers (in our case it's a dedi so we'd install something else and move on) but the devs need the servers as much as the server admins want to host the mod. In that respect there needs to be a degree of trust from the devs that the server admins can do a good job and do it fairly.

Lets remember, amongst all this rage that these are not global bans we're talking about here - the player can just piss off and join another server.

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

You know, everybody knows the rules, rules rocket made, as long as rocket doesn´t change them every admin should stick to it. As simple as it gets. The player now is unbanned, that is fine, i am happy for him. I point my fingers at Admins and to players, all i say is basically: know your frickin stuff and don´t fuck with the rules. When you don´t like the rules, don´t buy a server even if it would mean there are only 2 server left to play on. it would cause a reaction by the dayzteam and maybe the would change something.

so long Rudson.

I fundamentally disagree with you. It shouldn't take drastic action such as shutting down loads of servers - it should be as simple as trust. As stated in the previous post - we're talking local bans, the players can go and play elsewhere.

This is a storm in a tea cup and players are getting far more air time than the subject really warrants. Like some bloody smug kid who manages to blame someone else for their bad behaviour.

Ridiculous.

[deceitfulburger 43]

Hi IRJesoss,

I'm one of the Admins on the ZiiP server, The log files recorded that you have been using guns that are not in the game (hacked in) on multiple occasions, and were warned and kicked on a previous occasion.

The last hacked gun you were using was the Camo M4 with silencer, Eo-Tech, and under-slung grenade launcher (M4A1_HWS_GL_SD_Camo).

Regards

Tok

Lol, that gun is in DayZ.

[hambert06 0]

Lol, that gun is in DayZ.

I thnk you'll find that it isnt, and if you have found it, it was hacked in.

Any chance of this thread being locked as we have unbanned the player and this thread is arguing over a load of crap now.

[deceitfulburger 43]

I thnk you'll find that it isnt, and if you have found it, it was hacked in.

Any chance of this thread being locked as we have unbanned the player and this thread is arguing over a load of crap now.

Huh, I ws positive that someone made a thread about that gun and apparently it was in the game. I can't find that thread anymore so I concede.