Dickhat 99 Posted August 1, 2012 Helicopters should not be in DayZ.The reasons:- How the heck does a survivor knows how to fly a freaking helicopter?- Finding pieces to fix a helicopter? In a country in the middle of nowhere after a zombie apocalypse? Really?- Same as first one, how the heck does a survivor knows how to repair a helicopter?- Helicopters make it way easier to move around the map making players explore less, have less contact with people and easy access to all military loot points.- Helicopters make it too easy to find other peoples camps making it kinda unfair to the players who don't access to one (this one is debatable since the player who has a heli probably had to work for it)Please do post your opinion, this isn't a troll topic or anything. It's just my view about helicopters in this mod and how it detracts from gameplay. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NightRipper 284 Posted August 1, 2012 I would be against helicopters but being in one is too freaking epic. Riding in a helo should be on every DayZ player's bucket list. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munsterthunder@gmail.com 17 Posted August 1, 2012 RIding a heli - Awesome feelingTaking down a heli - Awesome feeling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legendary Fox 12 Posted August 1, 2012 Helicopters take time to find, time to repair, time to maintain, and usually used by groups/clans. I would like to see you say you still support this suggestion after you get to fly/own and maintain one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reaper0516 2 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) 1st: ppl that want to learn how to drive a helly go to arma 2 boot camp and fly it teaches you2nd: faster travel means less dying3rd: smart ppl put their tents in trees not open areas Edited August 1, 2012 by Reaper0516 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dickhat 99 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) I would be against helicopters but being in one is too freaking epic. Riding in a helo should be on every DayZ player's bucket list.My group has a heli and I must say that after sometime it just detracts from the game experience. Getting anywhere is too easy with it. We actually use our cars now and just leave the heli parked since it's way more fun and takes way more organization and time. It also gives way more adrenaline rushes since the car is easier to take down and steal than the chopper.Helicopters take time to find, time to repair, time to maintain, and usually used by groups/clans. I would like to see you say you still support this suggestion after you get to fly/own and maintain one.My group has one and I'm usually the pilot. Edited August 1, 2012 by Dickhat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SupaFly1983 52 Posted August 1, 2012 Helicopters should not be in DayZ.The reasons:- How the heck does a survivor knows how to fly a freaking helicopter?And at the same time, can't figure out how to drink from a lake without having a waterbottle. Lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dickhat 99 Posted August 1, 2012 1st: ppl that want to learn how to drive a helly go to arma 2 boot camp and fly it teaches you2nd: faster travel means less dying3rd: smart ppl put their tents in trees not open areas1. Okay?2. Yup, you are right.3. If you ever flew in a chopper you would know how easy it is to find a tent if you fly somewhat low. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CampingInCherno 0 Posted August 1, 2012 I have to agree I have been in a heli. Its alot of fun until you realize how much it really takes away from the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boxman80 964 Posted August 1, 2012 I wouldnt complain if they were removed myself but they do act as a nice kind of objective, particularly for groups, and because of which this helps encourage team play. I personally would just make them more rare than rocking horse shit and make parts extremely rare too so you don't see them every other server. They should be something you see maybe once every couple of weeks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterbrain 20 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Correct me if I am wrong, but is this nor a military simulator/Zombie Apocalypse survival mod/game?So the story of you survivor is? (How did they get there, what were they before did he have any skills or was he a ridiculously dressed civilian?Have you looked at the wiki to see what it takes to fix a helicoptor? Not to mention the 120+ jerry cans it takes to fuel it? Or the fact that if even the windscreen is damaged it will leak fuel even if it is landed?Have you ever watched the noobs jump in a heli spawned by a hacker in cherno and minutes later wreck it horribly? LOLYeah helicopters have a nice advantage, but are easily shot down and a pain in the ass to maintain. Not to mention there is only 1 per server last I heard. So they are very much sought after.I think your point is moot and 2+ helis should spawn to counter the single spawning heli.Some of you must not have yet been in combat while in a heli, or had to emergency land a heli, or perhaps flown the heli itself.It is actually VERY difficult to move that big piece of metal around the sky while being shot at by a Mark 48 Mod 0. Not to mention it is SO much easier to see the big oval UFO flying in the plain sky then to see a camo clothed surviver sitting against a house in a residential location or major city.Some of your complaints and such are miniscule when put in contrast. Edited August 1, 2012 by Master Brain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NightRipper 284 Posted August 1, 2012 Correct me if I am wrong, but is this nor a military simulator/Zombie Apocalypse survival mod/game?So the story of you survivor is? (How did they get there, what were they before did he have any skills or was he a ridiculously dressed civilian?Have you looked at the wiki to see what it takes to fix a helicoptor? Not to mention the 120+ jerry cans it takes to fuel it? Or the fact that if even the windscreen is damaged it will leak fuel even if it is landed?Have you ever watched the noobs jump in a heli spawned by a hacker in cherno and minutes later wreck it horribly? LOLYeah helicopters have a nice advantage, but are easily shot down and a pain in the ass to maintain. Not to mention there is only 1 per server last I heard. So they are very much sought after.I think your point is moot and 2+ helis should spawn to counter the single spawning heli.I'm pretty sure the way it works now is there are 3 potential heli spawn locations on the map, and a total of 2 helis spawn at any two of the 3 spawn points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinsdale1978@gmail.com 19 Posted August 1, 2012 So wouldn't most things be impossible if the average level of knowledge was taken into consideration? Can you repair a car while starving and thirsty? Do you know how to maintain a military grade sniper rifle? Can you gut an animal and properly cook it? And how did you just open that can of beans without an opener? It's a game and we should just have some fun. Most players will never see the rest of the map because they think there are only two big cities and a mythical airbase that has magic guns and evil trolls. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Regicide 111 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) I would love to see Little Birds in DayZ. Something that a lone wolf player could repair, hide, and fly around by himself, without the need of a clan.Edit: Sorry for being off topic, the idea just kinda popped up into my mind :P Edited August 1, 2012 by Velocirapetor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dickhat 99 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Correct me if I am wrong, but is this nor a military simulator/Zombie Apocalypse survival mod/game?So the story of you survivor is? (How did they get there, what were they before did he have any skills or was he a ridiculously dressed civilian?Have you looked at the wiki to see what it takes to fix a helicoptor? Not to mention the 120+ jerry cans it takes to fuel it? Or the fact that if even the windscreen is damaged it will leak fuel even if it is landed?Have you ever watched the noobs jump in a heli spawned by a hacker in cherno and minutes later wreck it horribly? LOLYeah helicopters have a nice advantage, but are easily shot down and a pain in the ass to maintain. Not to mention there is only 1 per server last I heard. So they are very much sought after.I think your point is moot and 2+ helis should spawn to counter the single spawning heli.The survivor is just a dude who woke up on the shore and is trying to survive. It's never hinted you were a military in the past or a pilot.I have fixed choppers several times. If you read the thread you will see me saying my group has one, we had several already. It's not that hard to find the parts at all. You can fill it up very quickly of you have 5 people working on it - like clans usually do.They aren't easy to shoot down at all. You need to shoot it several times to bring it down unless you shoot the pilot and kill him.You have a tutorial to teach you how to fly one so it being hard to fly isn't really a point here.There are 2 choppers per server.So wouldn't most things be impossible if the average level of knowledge was taken into consideration? Can you repair a car while starving and thirsty? Do you know how to maintain a military grade sniper rifle? Can you gut an animal and properly cook it? And how did you just open that can of beans without an opener? It's a game and we should just have some fun. Most players will never see the rest of the map because they think there are only two big cities and a mythical airbase that has magic guns and evil trolls.Repairing a car is not really hard. Almost every dude can do it. I agree that changing an engine is kinda ridiculous though and really hard. However they don't even come near the complexity of a helicopter. You aren't thirsty and starving all the time in DayZ.No I don't and I have made a suggestion on how weapons should degrade and require maintenance and how military gear should be nearly impossible to find.The opener is in your key chain, silly. :P Edited August 1, 2012 by Dickhat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarloNord 29 Posted August 1, 2012 I would love to see Little Birds in DayZ. Something that a lone wolf player could repair, hide, and fly around by himself, without the need of a clan.Edit: Sorry for being off topic, the idea just kinda popped up into my mind :PThey used to be in the game, they were taken out though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarloNord 29 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) The survivor is just a dude who woke up on the shore and is trying to survive. It's never hinted you were a military in the past or a pilot.I have fixed choppers several times. If you read the thread you will see me saying my group has one, we had several already. It's not that hard to find the parts at all. You can fill it up very quickly of you have 5 people working on it - like clans usually do.They aren't easy to shoot down at all. You need to shoot it several times to bring it down unless you shoot the pilot and kill him.You have a tutorial to teach you how to fly one so it being hard to fly isn't really a point here.There are 2 choppers per server.Repairing a car is not really hard. Almost every dude can do it. I agree that changing an engine is kinda ridiculous though and really hard. However they don't even come near the complexity of a helicopter. You aren't thirsty and starving all the time in DayZ.No I don't and I have made a suggestion on how weapons should degrade and require maintenance and how military gear should be nearly impossible to find.The opener is in your key chain, silly. :PActually there's a maximum of 3 choppers per server.And they're extremely easy to take down, one shot from a sniper, and it's down, don't have to hit the driver either, just the engine, or if he's an idiot, the tail rotor. Edited August 1, 2012 by CarloNord Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dickhat 99 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) I would love to see Little Birds in DayZ. Something that a lone wolf player could repair, hide, and fly around by himself, without the need of a clan.Edit: Sorry for being off topic, the idea just kinda popped up into my mind :PLittle birds like the ones used in farms are way easier to repair and operate than military choppers and I totally agree with you. However finding the parts for one would still be hard as hell even if not close to how hard it should be for helicopter parts.Actually there's a maximum of 3 choppers per server.And they're extremely easy to take down, one shot from a sniper, and it's down, don't have to hit the driver either, just the engine, or if he's an idiot, the tail rotor.I don't find it easy at all to shoot the rotor even with a sniper.Didn't know about the engine and nobody ever did take me down by shooting at it. Thanks for the info! Edited August 1, 2012 by Dickhat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ooTITANoo 4 Posted August 1, 2012 I've never used or seen a heli yet, but I don't think they should be taken out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woozaboo 5 Posted August 1, 2012 I would like the helicopters to stay, nothing is more enjoying then to shoot down a helicopters, or managed to shoot it down without destroying it.And I love it when I hear a helicopter coming from some direction, it makes things more interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterbrain 20 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) 'Dickhat' timestamp='1343836335' post='528804'The survivor is just a dude who woke up on the shore and is trying to survive. It's never hinted you were a military in the past or a pilot. - Which this does not tell you ANY backstory so who are you to say I DONT have military traiing? The fact of the military scenario are because this is a previous warzone turned viral zombieland no?I have fixed choppers several times. If you read the thread you will see me saying my group has one, we had several already. It's not that hard to find the parts at all. You can fill it up very quickly of you have 5 people working on it - like clans usually do. - Fixed as in fully repaired to green? And are you on a server by yourself? Locating and keeping a chopper is one thing but when on a full 40/40 server makes it hard to keep track of your vehicles let alone your helicopter. Repairing it is not just 1 scrap metal, 1 rotor and 1 windscreen.... How have you had several within the beginning of a week launch of them?They aren't easy to shoot down at all. You need to shoot it several times to bring it down unless you shoot the pilot and kill him. - Then whoever has been shooting is a terrible shot.You have a tutorial to teach you how to fly one so it being hard to fly isn't really a point here. -Actually it is, because most people do not go practice on the tutorial editor etc, and when you have 5 people in your heli and you are being shot at from the ground and attempting to move out of the way it honestly is not that easy to avoid getting hit. ( I Guess if a toddler is shooting at you would be simple)There are 2 choppers per server. -Good to know. :)Repairing a car is not really hard. Almost every dude can do it. I agree that changing an engine is kinda ridiculous though and really hard. However they don't even come near the complexity of a helicopter. You aren't thirsty and starving all the time in DayZ.No I don't and I have made a suggestion on how weapons should degrade and require maintenance and how military gear should be nearly impossible to find.The opener is in your key chain, silly. :PPractice makes perfect? (Ie sniping, repair, bodyshop, farming, opening cans - Improvising?) I mean come on people.Do you think the first man to create an engine or repair one was taught by someone else? No.Every man can learn anything over time. Edited August 1, 2012 by Master Brain 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BossFi 90 Posted August 1, 2012 If you think helis take something away from the game...simple...dont use one!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dickhat 99 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) @Master BrainYes, to green on a server with 30 people online almost all the time. My group is made of 6 people.I'm not saying a military background can't exist, it's just really highly improbable.You would be surprised by how many people haven't managed to take my chopper down then just by shooting at it. I've been downed some times but it usually took some time and was because my team got ambushed and killed so they couldn't provide me ground support.If you think helis take something away from the game...simple...dont use one!!The point of this part of the forum is to make suggestions. I don't know if you get what that means. Edited August 1, 2012 by Dickhat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterbrain 20 Posted August 1, 2012 @Master BrainYes, to green on a server with 30 people online almost all the time. My group is made of 6 people.I'm not saying a military background can't exist, it's just really highly improbable.You would be surprised by how many people haven't managed to take my chopper down then just by shooting at it. I've been downed some times but it usually took some time and was because my team got ambushed and killed so they couldn't provide me ground support.What server are you on? My clan will come over and help you learn a thing or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xTLRxPrototype (DayZ) 15 Posted August 1, 2012 Helicopters aren't going to be removed. No need to argue over it. End of discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites