"RP" servers

[thejcband 9]

Let me start off by saying I think the ability to be killed at any time by other players is one of the things that makes DayZ so amazing and intense. However, it pisses me off that 90% of players shoot survivors on sight. In a real zombie apocalypse, I don't think MOST people would do that. So a suggestion I have on how to limit this for people who want ultra-realism and still maintain things the way they are for those who just want a PVP game is to label some servers as RP servers. In these servers, players would be expected to treat their characters as they would act in real life, i.e. caring about the survival of the human species, recognizing strength in numbers, etc. Obviously this needs more fleshing out if it were to actually be implemented, but I think it could be a good direction to create a better experience for those who want more of an RPG instead of an FPS deathmatch.

[Bash Arkin 266]

Let me start off by saying I think the ability to be killed at any time by other players is one of the things that makes DayZ so amazing and intense. However, it pisses me off that 90% of players shoot survivors on sight. In a real zombie apocalypse, I don't think MOST people would do that. So a suggestion I have on how to limit this for people who want ultra-realism and still maintain things the way they are for those who just want a PVP game is to label some servers as RP servers. In these servers, players would be expected to treat their characters as they would act in real life, i.e. caring about the survival of the human species, recognizing strength in numbers, etc. Obviously this needs more fleshing out if it were to actually be implemented, but I think it could be a good direction to create a better experience for those who want more of an RPG instead of an FPS deathmatch.

See i don't care about the human survival, so can i just kill on sight? :D

Yeh in all seriousness this idea isn't going to be popular. You get this warning due to this being your first post.

[Disgraced 1123]

I would prefer that the game feature players acting in a more role playing fashion.

Some of my best experiences were when I first started playing and people would actually try to talk (direct comm was broken a lot, then, but worked enough for some fun times).

Teamed up with people a few times. Got rescued as a noob when I picked up a flashlight and a shed ate my makarov. I ran and ran and a guy in a heli swooped in and I jumped on board. We went to rescue another guy and... Server crash.

Anyway, interaction only in the form of bullets has changed the game, but things gonna change.

You will not see an rp server.

[Senrain 148]

See i don't care about the human survival, so can i just kill on sight? :D

Yeh in all seriousness this idea isn't going to be popular. You get this warning due to this being your first post.

I politely disagree. I believe this could actually be a great project to be a part of. Actually playing the role of a real human survivor.

[KennyNZ 121]

i.e. caring about the survival of the human species

Like in real life? You made me fucking Lol. So hard.

[thejcband 9]

I don't see why this idea would be unpopular. The single biggest complaint I see is that the current state of PVP is annoying at best, and completely turns people off from the game at worst. This would be a way to put people who share those sentiments all on the same server and give them a better playing experience. To those who say they WOULD shoot people on site IRL, that's great and would help retain the current intensity of coming across survivors. The point of my suggestion is that MOST people are not like that in real life, and this is something that could make the game better reflect that.

[Brusann 67]

It would be so unpopular, because bandits would just come on your roleplaying server and kill you for your phat lewtz because they knew you were less likely to shoot back. They'd become friends with you, walk around for 2 minutes, then open fire when your back was turned. It's an unfortunate truth :( I do agree though, if people actually followed the rules, it'd be awesome. (Or at least if most did! Because without any bandits at all it'd be no fun!)

[Senrain 148]

It would be so unpopular, because bandits would just come on your roleplaying server and kill you for your phat lewtz because they knew you were less likely to shoot back. They'd become friends with you, walk around for 2 minutes, then open fire when your back was turned. It's an unfortunate truth :( I do agree though, if people actually followed the rules, it'd be awesome. (Or at least if most did! Because without any bandits at all it'd be no fun!)

This problem could be negated by simply doing it on a private server, where the admins have more control and you won't lose the items you gain on servers connected to the HIVE.

[thejcband 9]

Well I'm basing this on going into an RP server in WoW many years ago and seeing that everyone there was indeed following the rules (talking in character). I believe it could work in DayZ. Maybe RP characters and normal characters could be in separate databases, so there would be no reason for non-RPers to come in to loot stuff knowing you'd be less likely to shoot back.

[sarcasm83 29]

See i don't care about the human survival, so can i just kill on sight? :D

Yeh in all seriousness this idea isn't going to be popular. You get this warning due to this being your first post.

Yeah, as long as you don't join one of those servers, you're free to do whatever you like. :)

Oh and funny, the RP server I just played on, that just got a huge safezone trading hub with vehicle fueling and fixing today is 3rd most famous DayZ server right now... But yeah, not popular at all.

Might I also say that I played for 60+ hours on public servers without seeing a friendly. Just PvP call of duty kiddies, never making any contact with anyone else. Just getting shot.

Now I've played for around 10 hours on the RP server and I've had moments so insanely epic it's ridiculous. Got robbed of my gun and bag by 2 bandits when I was alone... Not a single shot was taken by any of us, as they totally got the drop on me.

Just went to the trading camp with a friend, driving a bus and there was at least 10-15 people, 4 cars parked and a heli refueling when we arrived. Trading works, robbery and banditry works... and I tell you, it's way more fun than the BS trolling of the ridiculous amount of a-holes on public hives.

Safe to say I won't be playing on public hive servers again.

[sarcasm83 29]

Like in real life? You made me fucking Lol. So hard.

You know, it's almost safe to say it's american idiots who ruined the game.

The game's point was NEVER to be about people shooting people constantly. ArmA2 covered that pretty much already. The only reason you're so keen on JUST playerkilling, is because you wanna be an ass. I don't KNOW why some people love being dicks (especially the most ignorant americans), but that seems to be the only pathetic way some people can get their fun out of things these days. Don't deny it - it's clear your comment had only that purpose aswell; To piss off someone. To laugh at someone elses expense, as you for some reason can't find entertainment in being friendly. I, personally, think there's something wrong with people like you.

But anyway; there are hundreds - maybe thousands of games dedicated for nothing but Player Vs. Player. And you have got DayZ wrong. Yes, rivalries can happen. Yes, banditry is a part of it. But deathmatch IT IS NOT.

(Edit: No I'm not saying all americans are like that - I have american friends I play with and they are smart great people - so don't all of you get pissed.... AND I bet you all know exactly the group of asshats I mean.)

(Edit2: And no, the roleplaying server isn't about us even talking in character, being lame and awkward about it. It's simply playing the game with a sense of immersion - and actually giving a f**k what the game setting is and having some respect towards other players)

Edited October 2, 2012 by sarcasm83

[KennyNZ 121]

You know, it's almost safe to say it's american idiots who ruined the game.

The game's point was NEVER to be about people shooting people constantly. ArmA2 covered that pretty much already. The only reason you're so keen on JUST playerkilling, is because you wanna be an ass. I don't KNOW why some people love being dicks (especially the most ignorant americans), but that seems to be the only pathetic way some people can get their fun out of things these days. Don't deny it - it's clear your comment had only that purpose aswell; To piss off someone. To laugh at someone elses expense, as you for some reason can't find entertainment in being friendly. I, personally, think there's something wrong with people like you.

But anyway; there are hundreds - maybe thousands of games dedicated for nothing but Player Vs. Player. And you have got DayZ wrong. Yes, rivalries can happen. Yes, banditry is a part of it. But deathmatch IT IS NOT.

(Edit: No I'm not saying all americans are like that - I have american friends I play with and they are smart great people - so don't all of you get pissed.... AND I bet you all know exactly the group of asshats I mean.)

(Edit2: And no, the roleplaying server isn't about us even talking in character, being lame and awkward about it. It's simply playing the game with a sense of immersion - and actually giving a f**k what the game setting is and having some respect towards other players)

Wow. It was more of a jive at the idea that people care about human survival in real life, given the widespread hunger/wars/general dickery exercised by the majority of the world.

FYI I live in New Zealand, hence the 'NZ' part in my name and the location: New Zealand on the right there :D

I also DO play very friendly on DayZ and have only killed about 3 people in self defense in over 300 hours of gametime on DayZ.

But yes, I do know the group you mean, and yes I agree with your RP comments. I do actually support RP/hardcore/immersion servers or whatever you want to call them, the game is about the feelings it produces, without that it's nothing.

But I understand how you could have taken my comment the wrong way.

[Mos1ey 6301]

There are already RP servers...

[GoodGrief 21]

Like in real life? You made me fucking Lol. So hard.

Well they are taking their cues from Hollywood, or worse still the BBC. No, it's going to be bad. Real bad. Take what you heard about Argentina and Rwanda then pump it full of steroids..now you are post apocalyptic. If good people don't have any hope right now, how is it any better once the gloves are off

[Neshma 1]

I think its important to note in this discussion that there are multiple ways a game like DayZ can be played.

There is a large PvP community surrounding DayZ used to playing, shoot first, get the loot, and thats fine. but thats only one way to play.

There is also a large group (which id consider myself a part of) looking for a more role playing experience. Roleplaying your character, survivalists trying to stay alive in Chernarus. Meeting other players on the road also trying ot make their way in the world. Getting into fights with some for resources but hooking up with others for safety just as much. Setting up groups banding together, running into a the charitable stranger who is willing to give you that blood bag you need, or having someone randomly save you by poping the zombie hot on your tail because its what you'd do if it were you in real life. (depending on the character you play. Its more about the motive than the action!)

It can actually be fun to die at the hands of a roleplaying bandit. If they make it an interesting interaction, it sucks less that you died because the situation was played out so interestingly and was so much fun in the midst of it.

Thats why I joined the DayZRP server but in its current state, I think it does something abit different. The server prevents KoS, forcing declaration of intent before killing. You need to declare before you shoot there which does stop alot of the unknown deaths by random strangers. But theres still a strong PvP focused player base (less hackers thankfully!!) and less roleplaying than some would prefer.

Personally I agree with the theJCBand in his original post. I think KoS actually adds to the experience increasing your fear factor. putting rules on KoS is a good intent but I think the roleplayers are often looking for something different.

What we are hoping for is a server which focuses on actual roleplaying of characters. Where banditry is less appealing (though how to make it so, I dont know if the mechanics exist in the game. its likely to rely more on the policing of player access to discourage non RPers from joining) perhaps requiring proper bios to be posted before being given access, and enforcing a warning rule for people who kill without RP motivation..

If DayZ were to happen to the world now, yes youd have bandits, and youd have heros. The majority of people would just be trying to survive. And thankfully I think most people would at least hesitate at taking up a life of murder in order to survive. In DayZ its just too easy, the benefits are too tasty to discourage that like in RL. In RL i think most people would regret PvP abit more and would definately be more aware of the risk. Youd be more inclined to try and find blood bags and help than just suicide and start again :P

Just my 2 cents, id LOVE to see the roleplaying community come together in DayZ because damn its a great platform for apocalyptic RP!!!

[Jars (DayZ) 63]

RP , doesn't meant you have to play nice or fair , it just means you should fulfill your role faithfully , even to the detriment of your character .

Clearly , an RP server would be private and most likely whitelist , so you probably would not find a lot of trolls .

[enforcer1975 1111]

It would be so unpopular, because bandits would just come on your roleplaying server and kill you for your phat lewtz because they knew you were less likely to shoot back. They'd become friends with you, walk around for 2 minutes, then open fire when your back was turned. It's an unfortunate truth :( I do agree though, if people actually followed the rules, it'd be awesome. (Or at least if most did! Because without any bandits at all it'd be no fun!)

For this to work you ned to have a controlled environment ( whitelisted players, closed community, seperate hive )

[Neshma 1]

I agree with both of the last two comments. Whitelisted server, bios submitted for approval, player and admins need to monitor for players just getting on to cause trouble (but really whats the point).

Bad guys will continue to be bad, just roleplay it better. like Jars said

RP , doesn't meant you have to play nice or fair , it just means you should fulfill your role faithfully , even to the detriment of your character .

When you play lots of RP servers you realise it doesnt matter if your character loses out, if the RP was awesome you dont mind dying or getting killed because the interaction, the story of what was going on was so awesome. Having a bandit break your legs then talk about how they are sorry but are going to eat you because there is so little food with true remorse. Gritting your teeth in their faces as they end your life.

The guy out to save his family by any means necessary even if it means stealing your meagre can of beans. Or the merc group who execute you because your getting too close to their store of supplies as they try to find a way out after being brought in by the govt to fight the infestation before the govt crumbled.....

worth it for those of us who like good RP. Ill start again a thousand times if people like that are killing me. Its the phat lewt people who turn me off completely. Thats just a pointless death in PvP to roleplayers like me :)

[enforcer1975 1111]

The problem with roleplay is a player choosing to roleplay an idiot and play it that way even if you canÄt actually roleplay an idiot....actually you can since there are tons of them on the servers right now...

We already had these problems on Sahrani Life when players just played a serial killer to have be able to justify their killing spree which was forbidden on the servers. Anyway when they were caught they got x mins for each player kill in jail so you could "train" them to kill less. For repeater there was always the kick and timeban option.

It's difficult to have an effective countermeasure in DayZ because the game is much different.

I don't have a problem with in game deaths either as long as they have a reason other than "you just went into my crosshairs so i pulled the trigger". I've seen a lot of players running through my screen without even having an idea i was there, they even ran really close past me when i was standing still next to a bush with no camo on. Just for that they deserved to die but i let them leave because i had no reason to shoot...That's why i encourage nonsense pkers to play wasteland instead, prefereably on independant because you can tk there.

Edited November 29, 2012 by Enforcer

[MastaJack 2]

I really like the idea of roleplaying. It could be manged if it was on a private hive. I personally enjoy roleplaying on other games like Champions Online. You can have really fun times with really great people. If anyone wants to start a server like this, I would really like to help in some way.

[radivmoe 47]

Yeah, as long as you don't join one of those servers, you're free to do whatever you like. :)

Oh and funny, the RP server I just played on, that just got a huge safezone trading hub with vehicle fueling and fixing today is 3rd most famous DayZ server right now... But yeah, not popular at all.

Might I also say that I played for 60+ hours on public servers without seeing a friendly. Just PvP call of duty kiddies, never making any contact with anyone else. Just getting shot.

Now I've played for around 10 hours on the RP server and I've had moments so insanely epic it's ridiculous. Got robbed of my gun and bag by 2 bandits when I was alone... Not a single shot was taken by any of us, as they totally got the drop on me.

Just went to the trading camp with a friend, driving a bus and there was at least 10-15 people, 4 cars parked and a heli refueling when we arrived. Trading works, robbery and banditry works... and I tell you, it's way more fun than the BS trolling of the ridiculous amount of a-holes on public hives.

Safe to say I won't be playing on public hive servers again.

what server was this? i have been looking for a server with realistic reactions for ages!

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

Eh, this again.

Why is this in the suggestion forum?