Max Railgrave 78 Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) --- EDIT - READ THIS FIRST ---Rocket explained (see patch note threads or search his name) that the reason he wants no respawn button is to cut down on rapid respawns (which overloads the servers) for better spawn positions. However, I feel that only having it available when legs are broken is a little harsh.I suggest instead having a 1 minute cooldown timer triggered on Respawn-suicide, meaning it takes 60 seconds longer to have your new character appear at the coast after pressing the Respawn button.This keeps the button around but discourages spamming of the button (as Rocket wanted).---Original post---Better than disabling the Respawn button. This method prevents spamming respawn for better spawn location, but still allows players to suicide if they have their legs broken in the middle of nowhere.Perhaps if you spam the button too much, it adds another minute onto the death ban each time, to a maximum of a 3 minute ban.Or maybe it's just a flat 3 minutes. Or maybe five.Forces player to get the hell out of their chair and go take a food break. Healthy!Normal deaths (not due to Respawn button) still allow instant recovery. Edited July 30, 2012 by Max Railgrave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnT47r 51 Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Eh, I give up on trying to make this an image - This forum is confusing and infuriating Edited July 25, 2012 by KnT47r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Railgrave 78 Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Rocket stated the reason he's removing the Respawn button is to prevent server overload from people spamming it.Therefore, some form of nerfing to Respawn is happening, no matter what.The biggest complaint I've been seeing about this change is that players who break their legs in the middle of the wilderness will no longer be able to suicide to get back to shore.Adding a cooldown to Respawn solves the problem by discouraging players from repeatedly pressing it, while still allowing players who are stuck with their legs broken, to get out of their predicament.My solution, I believe, is preferable to having no Respawn button at all. Edited July 25, 2012 by Max Railgrave 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{NZA} DELTA 9 Posted July 29, 2012 what happens when you spawn in the debug plains? does that mean i have to run all the way back to shore somehow?there is no way to kill yourself out there except a painful starvation process that no one wants to be a part of. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moriak 35 Posted July 29, 2012 * [NEW] Respawn button is enabled if the player has a fracture...* [NEW] Players spawning in debug area or "water world" will spawn on beach on next login (with their gear)* [NEW] Client will automatically spawn player out of debug and waterworld to last known positiondid you guys even read the patch notes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vision1776 42 Posted July 29, 2012 Thank goodness. That makes sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeymofo 0 Posted July 29, 2012 My friend just got a broken leg from falling from too high and he said to me the respawn button was still greyed out and he was unable to respawn. Not had this myself yet, anyone else had this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarloNord 29 Posted July 29, 2012 I don't know why you people are so intent on getting the button back, I'm kinda glad it's gone, now I don't have to be fearful that when I open the menu, I won't kill myself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Railgrave 78 Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) what happens when you spawn in the debug plains? does that mean i have to run all the way back to shore somehow? there is no way to kill yourself out there except a painful starvation process that no one wants to be a part of.I said that I want a respawn button. did you guys even read the patch notes?No. This thread was created two days before those patch notes were released.Even so, I think there's some cases which warrant suiciding beyond "leg is broken."I don't know why you people are so intent on getting the button back, I'm kinda glad it's gone, now I don't have to be fearful that when I open the menu, I won't kill myself.That's a silly reason to disable something. Secondly the reason Rocket disabled Respawn was to cut down on number of new characters generated per minute as it was too many spawns and overloading the servers, which was a problem when people were suiciding rapidly and repeatedly to get a better spawn position.However, removing Respawn, I feel, was too much. I am suggesting putting it back in but if used, you have to wait maybe a minute or two before your character can be re-created. A cooldown timer, rather than a removal of a feature. This discourages repeated spamming of Respawn without punishing people who use it legitimately to give up when all hope is lost. Edited July 30, 2012 by Max Railgrave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bukethead 96 Posted July 30, 2012 I don't know why you people are so intent on getting the button back, I'm kinda glad it's gone, now I don't have to be fearful that when I open the menu, I won't kill myself.Amen to that. I killed myself at least 3 times whilst trying to adjust the gamma and brightness during night play, and turning it back down when switching to a day server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Railgrave 78 Posted July 30, 2012 Main post edited.Also, um, I think I suicided by accidental respawn maybe...2 or 3 times in my entire time playing...ever. And even then, probably because I wasn't on much sleep at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{NZA} DELTA 9 Posted July 30, 2012 did you guys even read the patch notes?the problem with that is i didnt get respawned to a beach..i just starved out there lol.but i think the buttons back now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites