So, is hacking impossible to fix or what?

[Lowbei 33]

As far as I can tell, as long as there are ANY scripts in the game, or even an accessable console... there will be hackers

why are scripts even allowed at all? why is the console even able to be opened by non admins?

I know many people who have just quit due to hackers ruining the fun that they have spent days/weeks building up to... when you have vehicles hidden in the woods, and watch someone with no gear port to you, unkillable, and kill your whole team with an axe as they all backpedal while unloading on him, they lose all the fun factor and usually quit afterwards.. whats the point of building a character up, to just lose it to some moron whos life is so sad that ruining the game is somehow fun for them?

you have built up a decent population, but its not a steady population, as people just quit after a few days/weeks after they get their fun ruined by some 4chan scrub who thinks ruining others fun gives him retribution for his last death. there are always more people coming to play, simply because they dont know "how it is"

can we get an official statement on the scripts that are rampantly being used in this game? battleeye doesnt really work, and ignoring the problem isnt going to fix it, and where is the motivation to not do it yourself if there is no real penalty, and the rewards are so great?

my solution : remove the console as real players dont need ANY scripts to play this game. if they cannot access the console, the problem is solved. right?

[ripbabyg@hotmail.co.uk 125]

You can create a piece of code that would detect a script injection and then insta ban the person doing it or kick them.

[Priceless 154]

So you really think the devs are at their desks ignoring this? Grow up

[suspense 210]

As far as I can tell, as long as there are ANY scripts in the game, or even an accessable console... there will be hackers

why are scripts even allowed at all? why is the console even able to be opened by non admins?

I know many people who have just quit due to hackers ruining the fun that they have spent days/weeks building up to... when you have vehicles hidden in the woods, and watch someone with no gear port to you, unkillable, and kill your whole team with an axe as they all backpedal while unloading on him, they lose all the fun factor and usually quit afterwards.. whats the point of building a character up, to just lose it to some moron whos life is so sad that ruining the game is somehow fun for them?

you have built up a decent population, but its not a steady population, as people just quit after a few days/weeks after they get their fun ruined by some 4chan scrub who thinks ruining others fun gives him retribution for his last death. there are always more people coming to play, simply because they dont know "how it is"

can we get an official statement on the scripts that are rampantly being used in this game? battleeye doesnt really work, and ignoring the problem isnt going to fix it, and where is the motivation to not do it yourself if there is no real penalty, and the rewards are so great?

my solution : remove the console as real players dont need ANY scripts to play this game. if they cannot access the console, the problem is solved. right?

All your assumptsions are wrong. A player cannot access any console, a player has no access to run any scripts. Thats why you need to bypass battleye and the prevention methods put in place for in order to stop people to run scripts, this is why its a "hack".

It is impossible to stop hacking, theres no way to prevent it. All you can do is minimize it.

I really urge you to stop talking about things you dont know, your statement in regards to battleye not working is as wrong as it can be. Battleyee has done software detection for over a dozen public hacks the past few months, thats more then many other anti cheat systems out there.

[daniel_coates@hotmail.co.uk 4]

your solution should be the most obvious, have no idea why it isnt like this anyway, also what the hell does battleye do? if anything at all it just seems to make the game harder to play by it fucking up all the time.

[Lowbei 33]

"So you really think the devs are at their desks ignoring this? Grow up"

uhhh, yeah, since i havent seen any official statement about it, but maybe you can point me to one once you stop raging at me for asking a valid question

"All your assumptsions are wrong. A player cannot access any console, a player has no access to run any scripts. Thats why you need to bypass battleye and the prevention methods put in place for in order to stop people to run scripts, this is why its a "hack".

It is impossible to stop hacking, theres no way to prevent it. All you can do is minimize it.

I really urge you to stop talking about things you dont know, your statement in regards to battleye not working is as wrong as it can be. Battleyee has done software detection for over a dozen public hacks the past few months, thats more then many other anti cheat systems out there."

strange, since all the problems in game come from "players" running scripts, from the console. maybe you should stop running your mouth like a retard and actually discuss the topic rather than whining like a little bitch because someone asked for an official statement on one of the biggest issues in game thats turning away thousands of players. or you could just continue pretending like you know what you are talking about lol. and again, if battleeye worked, there wouldnt be constant mass kill explosions and players flying helis all over the place while invincible and with guns that arent on the dayz mod. and if it wasnt incredibly easy to bypass the "battleeye and prevention methods" by simply downloading a widely used program, i wouldnt have said it. but hey, tell me again how its "hacking" to download and run a program, you are the smart one haha

Edited July 22, 2012 by Lowbei

[Rask 32]

Arma 2 wasn't developed with competetive multiplayer in mind. The game is a MILITARY SIMULATOR.

[Vanglory 72]

Your not going to get an 'official' response here, so basically the point of this thread is to bitch and argue with others.

When the developers decide to inform us how the whole script editing situation is going, then by god they will make an official post.

[blinkerty 8]

it's not that it cant be stopped, someone will always find a way around and then that method gets passed around bringing it back to square 1, in my opinion announcing steps to combat this in public will let people know whats happening sure, but it could potentially give people the heads up on how to get around it. hacking cannot be stopped but steps can be put in to mitigate it

[sixbarns 217]

This is going to get worse and worst until it's fixed or people start whitelisting their servers.

[Lowbei 33]

"Your not going to get an 'official' response here, so basically the point of this thread is to bitch and argue with others.

When the developers decide to inform us how the whole script editing situation is going, then by god they will make an official post."

why shouldnt they post an official statement? its not like theres a point in trying to keep it a secret, the whole games population knows its rampant... your theory of "they wont do it so why ask" is just stupid. its not bitching to ask for an official statement on one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) issue the game has. bitching would be complaining that i died to a hacker, which i have, but i didnt mention that, did i? oh right, i didnt.

[suspense 210]

"So you really think the devs are at their desks ignoring this? Grow up"

uhhh, yeah, since i havent seen any official statement about it, but maybe you can point me to one once you stop raging at me for asking a valid question

"All your assumptsions are wrong. A player cannot access any console, a player has no access to run any scripts. Thats why you need to bypass battleye and the prevention methods put in place for in order to stop people to run scripts, this is why its a "hack".

It is impossible to stop hacking, theres no way to prevent it. All you can do is minimize it.

I really urge you to stop talking about things you dont know, your statement in regards to battleye not working is as wrong as it can be. Battleyee has done software detection for over a dozen public hacks the past few months, thats more then many other anti cheat systems out there."

strange, since all the problems in game come from "players" running scripts, from the console. maybe you should stop running your mouth like a retard and actually discuss the topic rather than whining like a little bitch because someone asked for an official statement on one of the biggest issues in game thats turning away thousands of players. or you could just continue pretending like you know what you are talking about lol. and again, if battleeye worked, there wouldnt be constant mass kill explosions and players flying helis all over the place while invincible and with guns that arent on the dayz mod. and if it wasnt incredibly easy to bypass the "battleeye and prevention methods" by simply downloading a widely used program, i wouldnt have said it. but hey, tell me again how its "hacking" to download and run a program, you are the smart one haha

Its not per say "hacking" thats just the general term people use this days to explain exploitation by injecting and altering memory space. Every hack alters memory and injects differently, the reason battleye cannot ban "everyone" is because it doesnt search "everywhere" Thats like saying why criminals are able to commit murders, i mean, the cops should just catch them before they do it right? Its not possible, Battleye needs to be patches to search specific memory areas in order to 100% confirm that a program is injection here when it isnt.

When they find one, they do a software detection and everyone injecting ends up banned. Rinse and repeat for another 200 years

[Izziee 128]

As far as I can tell, as long as there are ANY scripts in the game, or even an accessable console... there will be hackers

why are scripts even allowed at all? why is the console even able to be opened by non admins?

I know many people who have just quit due to hackers ruining the fun that they have spent days/weeks building up to... when you have vehicles hidden in the woods, and watch someone with no gear port to you, unkillable, and kill your whole team with an axe as they all backpedal while unloading on him, they lose all the fun factor and usually quit afterwards.. whats the point of building a character up, to just lose it to some moron whos life is so sad that ruining the game is somehow fun for them?

you have built up a decent population, but its not a steady population, as people just quit after a few days/weeks after they get their fun ruined by some 4chan scrub who thinks ruining others fun gives him retribution for his last death. there are always more people coming to play, simply because they dont know "how it is"

can we get an official statement on the scripts that are rampantly being used in this game? battleeye doesnt really work, and ignoring the problem isnt going to fix it, and where is the motivation to not do it yourself if there is no real penalty, and the rewards are so great?

my solution : remove the console as real players dont need ANY scripts to play this game. if they cannot access the console, the problem is solved. right?

Damn! If only all of the billion dollar gaming industry realised that!

You could make a fortune selling your idea, patent it quick!

[ShadowGamer (DayZ) 8]

You Can Fix it but a hacker will just try to Get passed it. It Will never ever Fix hacking. You Can keep them out For a Bit But Not for Ever

Edited July 22, 2012 by ShadowGamer

[Lowbei 33]

strange, i know many mmos that dont have hackers

[Vanglory 72]

strange, i know many mmos that dont have hackers

You'd be wrong then. Nothing is full-proof from them...

[blinkerty 8]

strange, i know many mmos that dont have hackers

some companies are just on top of it faster then others,

[sixbarns 217]

strange, i know many mmos that dont have hackers

Sure you do. And they all use the arma2 engine and they all use shooter mechanics, and they're all free mods that run on public servers.

[Dimes123 60]

just had my first experience with this issue. i was teleported into a field and killed. i tried to alt f4 away when i knew what was happening but when i logged back in i had 100 health and bleeding bad. Rocket said in the latest interview he thought the system was fine. with all the posts i keep seeing, he is either lieing to us or is in denial

[simjedi 43]

You need to realize that DayZ is running off of public servers and not in-house one's where someone is constantly monitoring and catching hacks in progress. BattlEye is the only line of defense. So yes Rocket is correct when he says the system is working as it should be.

[Lowbei 33]

i dont think some of you are understanding the concept of the topic

here let me say it in another way

why is battleye so bad at catching the injection of scripts?

[blinkerty 8]

thats not what the title asks though

[simjedi 43]

why is battleye so bad at catching the injection of scripts?

Hacker hacks. BattlEye reports hacks, updates to block hacks. Hacker creates new hacks. BattlEye reports hacks, updates to block hacks. Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.

Edited July 22, 2012 by SIMJEDI

[silenced (DayZ) 5]

strange, i know many mmos that dont have hackers

The Arma2 executive file wasn't made with something like DayZ in mind. There's everything enabled to give you full access. But, in the long run, most of the hackers will be revealed and perma banned.

MMOs don't have stuff built in like Arma2, there you simply get no access to stuff since it's not even available from the client side. So, don't compare MMOs with a military simulator.

[Lowbei 33]

... right so the answer is, its impossible to fix

was hoping to hear an official word on that...

you know... like i said in the original post lulz