Minor Complaint about PVP

[cyricc 0]

This game is about realism, and what exactly is realistic about being killed withing 49 minutes by another survivor?

In a realistic zombie scenario you would appreciate the life other people still have, and not just kill them at first sight because you want to loot them.

People complain about server hopping but that is the only escape for people who don't want to PVP, my resolution is that people please consider the life of the other survivor first before you get so trigger happy.

Perhaps some sort of objectives that require you group up would prompt other survivors not to be so hasty with the killings. Or starting points that require multiple people first "trapped in the elevator, patients in the ER, Police station cops, ect"

/qq

Edited July 22, 2012 by cyricc

[SadPanda (DayZ) 181]

  On 7/22/2012 at 5:37 AM, cyricc said:

People complain about serer hopping but that is the only escape from people who don't want to PVP,

OH no you didn't.

[gizm0 96]

While I agree with your point about its sometimes the only way out, Dean has stated he doesn't want players to have a solution to every situation. Which my guess that means he doesn't want players to have a way to get out of being engaged in PVP.

[cyricc 0]

  On 7/22/2012 at 5:40 AM, Orthus said:

While I agree with your point about its sometimes the only way out, Dean has stated he doesn't want players to have a solution to every situation. Which my guess that means he doesn't want players to have a way to get out of being engaged in PVP.

I understand that, that's why my solution isn't "keep hopping available" just saying its why it happens.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

  On 7/22/2012 at 5:37 AM, cyricc said:

This game is about realism

Says who?

Where did you read this?

who said this?

Why?

Where?

Tell me.

Post a link.

[cyricc 0]

  On 7/22/2012 at 5:44 AM, ZedsDeadBaby said:

Says who?

Where did you read this?

who said this?

Why?

Where?

Tell me.

Post a link.

Well it's not explicitly stated anywhere, unless you count the ARMA 2 engine description. But it's one of the underlying mechanics of the game. Scavanging, Survival, Inventory management, Health management, seems to deal with realism to me, and being a player of L4D I can definitely say this game is FAR more realistic.

[krtshv 362]

PvP is a part of the game.

Server hopping to avoid death is not. When you kill someone, you're playing the game, when you log out because you don't feel like dying, you're abusing.

[Ramusx 11]

I see what your saying but thats just to bad. Group up with people you can trust outside of the game otherwise avoid people in game because most are just ass hats that will claim to be friendly then shoot you in the back.

[cyricc 0]

  On 7/22/2012 at 5:49 AM, krtshv said:

PvP is a part of the game.

Server hopping to avoid death is not. When you kill someone, you're playing the game, when you log out because you don't feel like dying, you're abusing.

Um I know this? I'm saying the two are directly related. If you want to fix hopping you have to fix PVP.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

  On 7/22/2012 at 5:49 AM, cyricc said:

Well it's not explicitly stated anywhere, unless you count the ARMA 2 engine description. But it's one of the underlying mechanics of the game. Scavanging, Survival, Inventory management, Health management, seems to deal with realism to me, and being a player of L4D I can definitely say this game is FAR more realistic.

Rocket has explicitly stated he's not interested in realism.

He went out of his way to say that's not the point of the game.

[cyricc 0]

  On 7/22/2012 at 5:52 AM, ZedsDeadBaby said:

Rocket has explicitly stated he's not interested in realism.

He went out of his way to say that's not the point of the game.

Then why all the realism mechanics? It seems like an avoidance response. It's not the point of the game but its all you can do to play?

Edited July 22, 2012 by cyricc

[krtshv 362]

  On 7/22/2012 at 5:52 AM, cyricc said:

Um I know this? I'm saying the two are directly related. If you want to fix hopping you have to fix PVP.

There's nothing to fix about PvP. It's fine.

PvP is when a player kills another player, there's nothing to fix about this.

The only thing that's going to be fixed is server hopping, when eventually, your body is going to freeze in place for a minute or so after you log out to make sure whoever shot you, can still kill you.

[cyricc 0]

  On 7/22/2012 at 6:02 AM, krtshv said:

There's nothing to fix about PvP. It's fine.

PvP is when a player kills another player, there's nothing to fix about this.

The only thing that's going to be fixed is server hopping, when eventually, your body is going to freeze in place for a minute or so after you log out to make sure whoever shot you, can still kill you.

That's a good point. But since most people who hop are avoiding death, if you fix it to where they still die, that might make them leave the game. I think the more people who play this game the better, but I don't want to see it fall into the never ending spiral of appeasing the majority user-base who might be struggling with the games PVP. It's a hard problem to fix in terms of making both sides happy.

Edited July 22, 2012 by cyricc

[cyricc 0]

I think having a better system of character spawning mechanics might be a way to fix this.

For example maybe something like this:

An option before spawn that asks "Spawn solo, Spawn in a group"

Group spawns would have some sort of story like the ones in my OP, might be a really cool mechanic, also to have possible teenager and children spawns, but idk about going that far.

[r3db4ss 6]

  On 7/22/2012 at 5:37 AM, cyricc said:

In a realistic zombie scenario you would appreciate the life other people still have, and not just kill them at first sight

You dont read/watch some news dont ya ?

The world is full of stupid, trigger happy assholes, that would shoot you without a second thought in a zombie scenario...........

And the only TRUE way to avoid PVP is to play more carefull. !!!

My last Char. lived 27 days, and i only run into 1 !!! real pvp situation ( second one was a server hopper spawning behind me with his axt, i dont count that as PVP situation ^^ ) till i got bored and run around the nw airfield without watching..........

If you dont want to pvp you dont have to, but dont blame those who want to. its your own fault they catch you !

[DarkRaven123 602]

You see OP, what Zed is getting at is that Rocket has stated he wants Authenticity.

Not realism.

There is a difference.