Server Software Kit

[SP00KEH 33]

Throw us a kit to set up our own servers with our own character databases and our own rules. I love managing servers, but I hate the public community, and I also would never want to host a server for DayZ as is due to having to be bound by rules that tell me how I should host a server rather than how I am comfortable.

I post because as it is, I think the way that DayZ servers are set up is flawed. Server hopping is very common, immersion breaking, and people can just alt-f4 and get away from a fire fight scott-free. In addition, hosting a DayZ server is like paying to work a part time job. You are hosting at your own expense but still forced to act as though you're the average player, just with some authority over disruptive folk. In the end as a host or administrator you are nothing but a waiter, and instead of receiving tips for your work you are giving the customers things for free.

I don't want to cater to the common rabble if I were to host a server. I would want to cater to my own interests and the interests of the people I play with. But you can not do that with the current system, due to having to keep the doors open for all the commoners to barge in and muck things up. I enjoy pre-planned events, faction organization, and such things but that becomes impossible when hosting the server forces you to cater to the vast majority rather than the small minority that I enjoy.

Edited July 18, 2012 by SP00KEH

[Jenga22 22]

I like the idea but then there would be too many servers that wont have any order, i dont know it could be a potential idea for the future.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Actually a server hosted by a clan will have more order than there currently is. Hell not even this forum has any order...

[Madfast 22]

This has been suggested quite a few times before, and I agree with it. Sadly rocket currently does not, he has said, while it may happen eventually not for a while. But I hear there are less than official ways of doing it. Perhaps Google would know more.

[SP00KEH 33]

Actually a server hosted by a clan will have more order than there currently is. Hell not even this forum has any order...

This is why I post. I really would like a more orderly server with factions officially supported by the administrators.

Say a group of players claims a building as being their sort of headquarters. They set up tank traps and wire fencing, but say, the server crashes or somesuch and those setups are lost. Well they're shit out of luck the admins can't help them in any way or they risk losing their rights to host a DayZ server. In addition hosting a server unbound by the restrictions of the server hosting as it is opens up the ability for server hosts to possibly to add elements to the map. We could end up going to places other than Chernarus if administrators were allowed to be independent of other servers and have full control over their servers.

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

From what i gathered Rocket doesn't want private servers, it's everyone play together, for the best and the worst, no clans making their BS little rules on their server or banning whoever piss them off.

[SP00KEH 33]

From what i gathered Rocket doesn't want private servers, it's everyone play together, for the best and the worst, no clans making their BS little rules on their server or banning whoever piss them off.

I enjoy my "BS little rules". I don't like chaos.

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

I enjoy my "BS little rules". I don't like chaos.

Yeah but you don't get to decide at the moment so it doesn't really matter wether you enjoy them or not.

It's actually a good thing, to me.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Lady Kyrah

[SP00KEH 33]

Yeah but you don't get to decide at the moment so it doesn't really matter wether you enjoy them or not.

It's actually a good thing, to me.

You sound like a real bitch. I salute you.

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

Arma isn't the first game i played. In every single games that are privately hosted you usually have admins making up their little rules as they go. And in general, even if they are convinced to do everyone a favor, they do give themselve an advantage and basically use and abuse their power, hell even i've done it.

Even the best intentioned admin will do this "just this time".

In dayZ we have the unique opportunity of a community hosted project where every server admin has to play by the rules. DayZ is the only game where i have found an identical play from server to server, especially because server admins are not allowed to mess around.

[elchauvet@gmail.com 2]

Arma isn't the first game i played. In every single games that are privately hosted you usually have admins making up their little rules as they go. And in general, even if they are convinced to do everyone a favor, they do give themselve an advantage and basically use and abuse their power, hell even i've done it.

Even the best intentioned admin will do this "just this time".

In dayZ we have the unique opportunity of a community hosted project where every server admin has to play by the rules. DayZ is the only game where i have found an identical play from server to server, especially because server admins are not allowed to mess around.

I agree.

The way it is now allows for all players to play as equals. In all the other online games I've played that have dedicated server, something problematic always happens. Clan servers kick me to make room for their clan members or they abuse their powers.

The problem in these games is that 90+% of the servers are clan servers. I don't genereally have the time or the energy to put join a clan andstuff like that.

Rocket says that hosting DayZ is a service that you are giving to other players. You don't have to do it. But if you do you have to follow his rules.

In the end it is his mod and he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.

[SnR 16]

In its Alpha state the Devs require ultmate consistency in community feedback. To have team leet with their uber island, sound modded server, whining cause of instability would cause major issues in gaining true reports.

Ask the question next year when the mod is being ported over to Arma 3, you should be able to get a solid answer from someone ?

[SP00KEH 33]

Arma isn't the first game i played. In every single games that are privately hosted you usually have admins making up their little rules as they go. And in general, even if they are convinced to do everyone a favor, they do give themselve an advantage and basically use and abuse their power, hell even i've done it.

Even the best intentioned admin will do this "just this time".

In dayZ we have the unique opportunity of a community hosted project where every server admin has to play by the rules. DayZ is the only game where i have found an identical play from server to server, especially because server admins are not allowed to mess around.

Hon, I have been gaming since I could hold a controller up. Your problem is that you've played on the wrong servers, not that this is a bad idea. Honestly, I think that my utter hatred for ignorance and stupidity have driven me to cannibalism over what I've seen on the DayZ forums. I guess you enjoy the chaos that is currently because you can show no restraint running about gunning everybody down and getting away with fuckever because the server administrators can't enforce any sort of ruleset or they risk losing their server privelages. A lot of DayZ's newer audience seems to hate the idea of being held by any rules that prevent them from running willy nilly murdering everybody. I really miss the DayZ of yesteryear when finding a survivor meant having a quaint conversation and possibly becoming homies in killing Bandits together.

Who are you to say that all servers are run by corrupt and inept admins? Joseph fucking Stalin? I've run great servers where we don't just give friends the advantage. We set up organized factions with ranking and had a fun time.

I'd also like to point out, that I'd enjoy the incorporation of a radio system like ACRE into DayZ but that's impossible as it is.

Edited July 19, 2012 by SP00KEH

[enforcer1975 1111]

If there were actual clan or community hosted server managed by good admins many players would have to play of rockets server because that's what will be left for them. In other mods ppl who kill for the lulz would have been warned, kicked and banned either temp or perma for spreekilling. Even on those community servers playing a murderer wasn't counted as roleplay because it only ended in senseless killing which the community didn't want. I always had to deal with such people, breaking the rules and whining about it when they got bitchslapped trying to talk their way out of it. Unfortunatley we had a working evidence gathering system because we had multiple admins watch their actions either openly or undercover. Even after we gave them multiple chances to redeem themselves they never changed.

Let's see for the future, if rocket sticks to his ideals he might have to dump this mod right into the trashcan when it's out or even before it's out because i doubt anyone except the hardcore pvpers would play or host it.

[weld 26]

I dislike this idea as well.

I don't shoot folks in game unless they start it, but I also don't want any more rules than are already in place.

If you're unwilling to abide by the hosting rules, don't host. If you want to start your own thing like DayZ you can do that. But this is Rocket's playground and he doesn't have to share his toys.

[Frozen (DayZ) 144]

like or dislike, but servers with internal database already exist, not officially though.

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

like or dislike, but servers with internal database already exist, not officially though.

They can do it, but it doesn't mean they have the right to.

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

If there were actual clan or community hosted server managed by good admins many players would have to play of rockets server because that's what will be left for them. In other mods ppl who kill for the lulz would have been warned, kicked and banned either temp or perma for spreekilling. Even on those community servers playing a murderer wasn't counted as roleplay because it only ended in senseless killing which the community didn't want. I always had to deal with such people, breaking the rules and whining about it when they got bitchslapped trying to talk their way out of it. Unfortunatley we had a working evidence gathering system because we had multiple admins watch their actions either openly or undercover. Even after we gave them multiple chances to redeem themselves they never changed.

Let's see for the future, if rocket sticks to his ideals he might have to dump this mod right into the trashcan when it's out or even before it's out because i doubt anyone except the hardcore pvpers would play or host it.

You assume that making a mod is a popularity contest.

Some people have creative urges, i create 3D models for a living, i do whatever i like and if peoples like it, they can buy it. Would i stop if nobody did? I would have to find another job but i sure wouldn't stop making things i like.

Creative people are not all motivated by business or fame, some simply have an urge to create.

[debo2132 0]

You sound like a real bitch. I salute you.

no see u sir are the REAL fucking bitch here everstop to think about how UR FUCKING GEAR GOES SERVER TO FUCKING SERVER so liitle cunts would go make there own server change the setings to make it private and the increase loot spawn everwere get the gear they want and go fuck shit up on a public server u liitle bitch next time think about this shit thats y they have to contral shit dumb ass o and next time some 1 comments on ur fuckign post with there op dont fuck go ape shit on them for telling u the mother fucking truth u damn cunt

[debo2132 0]

Hon, I have been gaming since I could hold a controller up. Your problem is that you've played on the wrong servers, not that this is a bad idea. Honestly, I think that my utter hatred for ignorance and stupidity have driven me to cannibalism over what I've seen on the DayZ forums. I guess you enjoy the chaos that is currently because you can show no restraint running about gunning everybody down and getting away with fuckever because the server administrators can't enforce any sort of ruleset or they risk losing their server privelages. A lot of DayZ's newer audience seems to hate the idea of being held by any rules that prevent them from running willy nilly murdering everybody. I really miss the DayZ of yesteryear when finding a survivor meant having a quaint conversation and possibly becoming homies in killing Bandits together.

Who are you to say that all servers are run by corrupt and inept admins? Joseph fucking Stalin? I've run great servers where we don't just give friends the advantage. We set up organized factions with ranking and had a fun time.

I'd also like to point out, that I'd enjoy the incorporation of a radio system like ACRE into DayZ but that's impossible as it is.

o and to this comment bro its a fucking survive game real life that what people would do what r u going to do turn off pvp dipshit then that would make it a full co-op zombie surviver simulator not a real life zombie 1 like they r going for wit dayz do u honestly stop to think before u talk

[schockie 16]

you already can make a server

[Mernster 0]

there once was a server who found out how to make a mod for admins and spawned extra vehicles and was always watching for hackers. It was a really fun server because the admins were fair and never gave anyone shit. unfortunately, that server was shut down probably because the fact that it was modded to make it more survivable. In an actual zombie apocalypse, i highly doubt 99% cars wont work and if they do, everything is broken on them.

[Lights Out 141]

What rules would you implement? Rules against killing as one wishes would take away from the game. This is just something you'd have to deal with in a apocalyptic situation. I personally don't kill without reason but if I knew I'd never be killed, well it would take away that tense feeling i get when I see a player I don't know. You have to take a chance sometimes if you want to meet players and see what kind of intentions they have. You ,must decide if it is worth it. So what rules exactly do you wish to implement?

Secondly, you must consider that even if you have positive intentions with this extra admin power, realize others may not and this is where the problem arises. It only takes a few bad apples to spoil a bunch.