Sanity system...New animals, pets and more intersting hunting mechanic...

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

I was thinking about the movie Castaway with Tom Hanks and the way he got so lonely on the island that he eventually created an imaginary friend from a vollyball called wilson and it struck me a sanity meter that would be affected by your social interaction would be an intersting mecanic. I also started thinking about pets and how they provide a certain degree of companionship and combining the two would actually be very natural in a way. Also the many non domestic animals we have and don't have in game and how they play into hunting was also batting around in my head.

I find it ironic that we now have many deer stands and no deer and bear traps and no bear. Boars are docile creatures when in real life they would attempt to goar you and there are no bulls in the land of the zeds but plenty of cows also where are the cats and dogs which you would think would be the most rampant of animal since they are the domestic variety. Also why so many stables and no horses roaming? I am aware that Rocket wants to get dogs into the game. I think having an intense pet system that could include horses (ridable horses) and dogs and cats as pets along with needing to care for them or train them to do things would be really cool and interesting....

Here are some suggestions I brainstormed.

Sanity system.....

Sanity could require you to either interact with other humans and talk with them in a specially designes proximity based chat system or have a companion in the form of a pet...cats, dogs, rabbits, horses ect. that you feed, train and care for. As sanity degrades you would begin to halucinate...you would see zombies running at you ghosts of your dead family and children chasing after you and a mysterious man in black that would mercilessly hunt you from time to time complete with his own creepy chase music....the catch would be that even though this was only in your mind you would have to use your ammo to kill the apparitions simulating your mind supressing the complete loss of sanity. If you didnt they would catch up and attack causing non bleed sanity damage to a meter that when empty would cause a total psycotic break where you would just start talking to yourself while wandering aimlessly being moved around randomly....for a few second then colapse mentally exhausted... while in this state you would randomly lose controll of your character for a few seconds at a time and begin wandering till you removed the effect with human interaction...a player could slap you or shake you to bring you out of the effect or a pet could nuzzle you and bring you back. If you stayed in the effect for too long you would just swallow your own gun or slit your wrists or break your own kneck with your bare hands depending on what equipment you currently had on you....

Pet system.....

Not only having an animal that you would have to feed and nurture but also having a pet that you could train to do a variety of tasks would be cool. The Sanity meter function would give them a duel purpose as well. I was imagining that say a dog could be trained to fetch items from inside houses...when you activated him you could take control of him and have him run into an area , zombie aggro free and retrieve one item in his mouth...the rub would be your character would be vulnerable in the world so there would still be risk involved is someone found your character prone in the grass somewhere but it could still pay off... cats could have chem lights affixed to them at night or a bell then sent to walk in a pattern in a certain directon they would pull zombie aggro their direction without ever being attacked themselves. Rabbits could be used as bate for some of the newer predatory animals to chase and thus would help in your hunting efforts by leading an animal into your gun sights....Horses could be found tamed and eventually rideable....each animal would have it's own care needs training requirements and special skills,a pet dying would cause a dent in your sanity meter based on how long you had them.

Predatory/Wild animals....

Wolves, Bear, Mountain Lion, Bulls,Coyote animals that will attack alone or in packs and would make night travel in the woods far from the safety net it seems to be at the moment. You could even have an extreme taming feature that would allow said animals to be trapped and tamed with a lengthy process and used to do attacks on zombies or other players.Certain animals could even be tranquilized and put inbetween the barbed wire adding to bunker or base defenses. Wild animals like deer could be gutted and have their pelts turned into clothing or custom bags and water sacks as well as trophies. Wild animals could also bite and cause infection requiring antibiotics or a rabies shot and even a fever mechanic that would add to the temp meters current useage in game.

Hunting revised....

With more in depth animal behavior hunting could be a much more naturallly chalenging task....knowing that non domiesticated animals will run and dart about as well as even attack it would make the whole affair far more fun and interactive....you would need bate... say truffles for example to lure boar and there would be risk involved which is a far cry from the current system

Those are my ideas feel free to spin them off and discuss further.....

Edited July 18, 2012 by Hendrix

[fumigate 6]

Rocket has already confirmed he wanted a pet system (Dog) in the future btw :)

[Zeromentor 169]

I'm going to ignore the rest of the OP and focus on one piece. Sanity.

I'm an introverted Sociopath (oddity, I know) and I dislike crowds and people, and don't care for anyone I do not see as a friend (takes a long time for me to build relationships). I don't need companionship to stay sane (I don't talk to myself or laugh for no reason, hear voices or see things that aren't there if I have no contact with people for over a week). Being forced to use such a system, even with such an easy way to get around it with pets, is a weakness I don't want to have. If I don't have it in real life, why should a character I play be forced to have it?

Some people don't go crazy just because they killed someone. I know people see this extreme in movies all the time, but if it happened to everyone just because they killed a guy then there would be no war because all the soldiers would snap and flee the frontlines as soon as the first body hit the ground. Stop thinking this way. Not everyone needs constant human interaction to stay sane. Not everyone needs to have a pet to stay sane if they don't talk to humans. And I wouldn't ever kill myself, so why would my character??? No. Unless I'm playing a roleplaying game as an extroverted attention seeker in the maws of madness in the zombie apocalypse of Chernarus, I don't want a freaking sanity meter.

I don't like the idea of pets. I don't like the idea of bulls, wild mountain lions or coyotes. I'm not sure what animals are native to this land called Chernarus, but I'm sure wild dogs might be the most of it. Maybe bears, but they won't be that aggressive. Baiting animals might seem fun, but in a game where your character can starve to death so quickly, hunting for hours trying to find truffles without a boar, and then setting them up in the hopes that one random one might come by would lead to your eventual death by starvation, or forcing you to head to a nearby city to loot food or kill players for said food.

So no.

[nacrom 82]

I'm not down with the sanity system. The reward for groupings are already there without making a system like this - someone watching your back, sharing supplies, etc. It will become extremely important to be grouped when the hacking/duping issues are resolved.

Dogs: Love the idea. Mans best friend. Loyal, obedient, keep you warm at night in a tent (been there), attack anyone who comes near. Dislike the idea of "taking them over" and fetching items though.

Cats: Can't train cats to do stuff like this. Might make a good meal though.

Hunting: Like the wild animals potentially attacking. Like bait. The team has done a bang-up job with the current food prep system and a little spice to "hunting" would be nice. Not sure about tranquilizers etc.

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

Rocket has already confirmed he wanted a pet system (Dog) in the future btw :)

yeah I said as much in my first paragraph, what I was suggesting was taking an evolved pet system and how people consider pets and human interaction as vital and having it affect your sanity based on your level of human/pet interaction and if pets you drew close too or even people died what effect that would have on your mental health in a real quantifiable way....I think it would be a very interesting thing to explore sanity as the next big meter for the game.... :)

[Ribano 46]

there are parts of this post that show real promise in my opinion and they are:

animals sometimes attack when approached, and definitely attack if harmed and not killed immediately. i'd also make it that they can be spooked and flee, so that hunting becomes a more covert and stalking operation.

pet dogs (not horses or cats for the reason that cats cant really be trained and horses would just look ridiculous if people were riding them imo) - but! training dogs to be able help you hunt, for instance, you see a boar and if you aim in on him you can scroll wheel to "set dog on boar" or somthing, and then the dog can attack and cause the boar to run to you or the dog could kill it himself.

for the dog i'd make it have a mini version of the humans HUD, if he bleeds you have to bandage it, if he loses blood you have to feed it etc. the longer you keep it and the more attacks it does, the stronger its attacks become against animals and the less chance it has of scaring the animals off in the wrong direction.

Sanity - not yet convinced but the idea of losing your pet/companion would be horrible so maybe it could work. i'd also make it that if you have a tent and you die, your pet returns to your tent ( but that might just be me not wanting them to die haha)

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

I'm not down with the sanity system. The reward for groupings are already there without making a system like this - someone watching your back, sharing supplies, etc. It will become extremely important to be grouped when the hacking/duping issues are resolved.

Dogs: Love the idea. Mans best friend. Loyal, obedient, keep you warm at night in a tent (been there), attack anyone who comes near. Dislike the idea of "taking them over" and fetching items though.

Cats: Can't train cats to do stuff like this. Might make a good meal though.

Hunting: Like the wild animals potentially attacking. Like bait. The team has done a bang-up job with the current food prep system and a little spice to "hunting" would be nice. Not sure about tranquilizers etc.

Well sanity is a human trait it is not a matter of being down with it, we have a certain degree of mental anguish or physical pain that we all can take before we break...I don't imagine most people when faced with undead humans trying to hunt you down mercilessly day after day and eat your face off while seeing frined after friend die would be chipper and lively and having fun in the world like we tend to do when we play...I think adding an artificial means to simulate the artificial tragedy of a zombie apocalypse in the game is needed to spice things up and give our character new dimensions...perhaps not in the ways I described but something more is needed to simulate emotional attachment in game.....anyone got any idea's

Edited July 18, 2012 by Hendrix

[starwarsfan@gmx.de 450]

If I don't have it in real life, why should a character I play be forced to have it?

That argument falls way short. You'd then have to arguee that 99% of people wouldn't just shoot people on sight. Sure there are a lot of psychopath but that isn't the norm. Especially at the end of the world in a post apocalyptic world, where every surviving human being counts for the survival of the species.

Groups killing of other groups I can understand but solo people would tend to team up and join groups and not run around alone.

Sure it should be possible to do, I agree but when it's the norm within the game it kinda feels 'unrealistic' or rather 'artificial' I guess.

[liquidcactus 719]

the idea(s) is good but i think it would have to be subtle.. as in the chance of going insane is very low so it only happens in certain circumstances after a + b (situations) over x amount of time etc

pets isnt a bad idea but um.. yeah !

nice suggestions

:D

[nacrom 82]

Well sanity is a human trait it is not a matter of being down with it, we have a certain degree of mental anguish or physical pain that we all can take before we break...I don't imagine most people when faced with undead humans trying to hunt you down mercilessly day after day and eat your face off while seeing frined after friend die would be chipper and lively and having fun in the world like we tend to do when we play...I think adding an artificial means to simulate the artificial tragedy of a zombie apocalypse in the game is needed to spice things up and give our character new dimensions...perhaps not in the ways I described but something more is needed to simulate emotional attachment in game.....anyone got any idea's

Did you read the post the guy who claims to be an introvert wrote? Not everyone needs to be surrounded by a bunch of sheep, bleating about American Idol etc. My characters don't survive longer than 2 weeks. You really think after 2 weeks your average human would start acting as you described?

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

I'm going to ignore the rest of the OP and focus on one piece. Sanity.

I'm an introverted Sociopath (oddity, I know) and I dislike crowds and people, and don't care for anyone I do not see as a friend (takes a long time for me to build relationships). I don't need companionship to stay sane (I don't talk to myself or laugh for no reason, hear voices or see things that aren't there if I have no contact with people for over a week). Being forced to use such a system, even with such an easy way to get around it with pets, is a weakness I don't want to have. If I don't have it in real life, why should a character I play be forced to have it?

Some people don't go crazy just because they killed someone. I know people see this extreme in movies all the time, but if it happened to everyone just because they killed a guy then there would be no war because all the soldiers would snap and flee the frontlines as soon as the first body hit the ground. Stop thinking this way. Not everyone needs constant human interaction to stay sane. Not everyone needs to have a pet to stay sane if they don't talk to humans. And I wouldn't ever kill myself, so why would my character??? No. Unless I'm playing a roleplaying game as an extroverted attention seeker in the maws of madness in the zombie apocalypse of Chernarus, I don't want a freaking sanity meter.

I don't like the idea of pets. I don't like the idea of bulls, wild mountain lions or coyotes. I'm not sure what animals are native to this land called Chernarus, but I'm sure wild dogs might be the most of it. Maybe bears, but they won't be that aggressive. Baiting animals might seem fun, but in a game where your character can starve to death so quickly, hunting for hours trying to find truffles without a boar, and then setting them up in the hopes that one random one might come by would lead to your eventual death by starvation, or forcing you to head to a nearby city to loot food or kill players for said food.

So no.

ooookkkk.....Take these beans and soda and have a nice day sir......if your a diagnosed sociopath you should sincerely seek some mental health counciling, you should also not be playing a game about murdering other people it is not helping your condition.....just remember I offered you beans and soda...it was all those other fools that were laughing at you......seriously take my beans put the knife down.....

[nacrom 82]

ooookkkk.....Take these beans and soda and have a nice day sir......if your a diagnosed sociopath you should sincerely seek some mental health counciling, you should also not be playing a game about murdering other people it is not helping your condition.....just remember I offered you beans and soda...it was all those other fools that were laughing at you......seriously take my beans put the knife down.....

Insulting this guy because he had a different opinion. Nice.

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

Did you read the post the guy who claims to be an introvert wrote? Not everyone needs to be surrounded by a bunch of sheep, bleating about American Idol etc. My characters don't survive longer than 2 weeks. You really think after 2 weeks your average human would start acting as you described?

I did not put a date on it of two weeks that is your own assumption. I merely suggested having the meter not the time frame of how it would be enacted....also being a military man myself and serving in the va hospital I have seen what killing people and seeing people die can do to you. I have seen several people that survived an IED and watched someone they know die and there is not a time frame involved in how it affects them ....If you saw a loved one get hit by a car you telling me you need 2 weeks or more for a reaction? Your speaking from the place of someone doing virtual killing real life killing is a whole other ballgame and although this game is not real life as Rocket himself has said it is a simulated version so having a pseudo way to express mental health is a good way to add more pseudo realism....it is a game but the more real it feels the better.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Hendrix

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

Insulting this guy because he had a different opinion. Nice.

The first line of his post is "I am an introverted sociopath"..... I did not insult him I gave him some advice in a joking manner. You may not be aware of this but commonly when people point out things like I have thoughts of hurting myself or I hate myself or I have such and such mental condition it is usually a cry for help.....The dude in the post should seek mental counciling and get it sorted out all joking aside....and playing a game about killing others isnt the way to do it.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Hendrix

[Zeromentor 169]

ooookkkk.....Take these beans and soda and have a nice day sir......if your a diagnosed sociopath you should sincerely seek some mental health counciling, you should also not be playing a game about murdering other people it is not helping your condition.....just remember I offered you beans and soda...it was all those other fools that were laughing at you......seriously take my beans put the knife down.....

As a sociopath I know my actions have consquences, and thus have no issues with following the law. That is more due to the knowledge that if I commit a crime, the police with probably catch me and place me in a jail or prison (according to the crime I commit) which is a place I do not want to be. If you think I was being sarcastic, or that I lied, I do not care. You are a stranger on the internet, filled with people, whom I have no reason to express lies towards. I don't care if you dislike me, or idolize me. Sociopathy is not a 'condition'. I was born with it. A more proper name is Anti-Social Personality Disorder, and my case is severe. I lack sympathy towards others and do not feel empathy. That means your pain is yours alone, and if nothing else might interest me due to the nature of the pain. I could care less about your safety or life unless I have a reason to (being paid).

I have taken psychology, sociology and criminology classes, as well as serving as a correctional officer for CCA for a short time before I resigned due to workplace hazards and general violations of protocol that left me not wanting to get sued or worse. So if the federal backgrounds checks didn't find anything (I don't even have a speeding ticket to my name) you shouldn't be worried.

But keep in mind, I care very little for my 'fellow man'. Your life means nothing to me, and your emotions, thoughts and life experiences don't mean a thing to me outside of the information I could glean from them. If pushed, I would probably be more likely to kill you than any other random stranger, as like I said, "Your life means nothing to me". But don't fret, I'm no threat to the community. Sociopath does not mean Serial Killer.

EDIT: To conclude, if I have no issue with killing people in real life if there were no laws against it, why should my ingame avatar have such a problem? This isn't a roleplaying game, after all.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Zeromentor

[nacrom 82]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2011/06/14/why-some-psychopaths-make-great-ceos/

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

As a sociopath I know my actions have consquences, and thus have no issues with following the law. That is more due to the knowledge that if I commit a crime, the police with probably catch me and place me in a jail or prison (according to the crime I commit) which is a place I do not want to be. If you think I was being sarcastic, or that I lied, I do not care. You are a stranger on the internet, filled with people, whom I have no reason to express lies towards. I don't care if you dislike me, or idolize me. Sociopathy is not a 'condition'. I was born with it. A more proper name is Anti-Social Personality Disorder, and my case is severe. I lack sympathy towards others and do not feel empathy. That means your pain is yours alone, and if nothing else might interest me due to the nature of the pain. I could care less about your safety or life unless I have a reason to (being paid).

I have taken psychology, sociology and criminology classes, as well as serving as a correctional officer for CCA for a short time before I resigned due to workplace hazards and general violations of protocol that left me not wanting to get sued or worse. So if the federal backgrounds checks didn't find anything (I don't even have a speeding ticket to my name) you shouldn't be worried.

But keep in mind, I care very little for my 'fellow man'. Your life means nothing to me, and your emotions, thoughts and life experiences don't mean a thing to me outside of the information I could glean from them. If pushed, I would probably be more likely to kill you than any other random stranger, as like I said, "Your life means nothing to me". But don't fret, I'm no threat to the community. Sociopath does not mean Serial Killer.

EDIT: To conclude, if I have no issue with killing people in real life if there were no laws against it, why should my ingame avatar have such a problem? This isn't a roleplaying game, after all.

The reason the word disorder is a part of the word Anti-Social Personality Disorder is because it is a condition. It should be treated with couciling and possibly even medication. If you had to leave your job because of something you did or couldn't handle that is called a warning sign. Botling up emotions till they explode or living with feelings of inadiquacy or hatred toward the world around you is not the picture of a normal psycological profile. If you had been honest about said condition on the mental health screaning I know they legaly were required to do before you started carrying a gun as a correctional officer then you would have been excluded from that line of work and for a very good reason. The fact you are intelligent enough to know that you have a "problem" is not a sign of insanity but the fact you so readily share it on an online forum with zero thought towards how you are seen in the world is indicative of a more serious issue. I would strongly suggest psychiatric counciling and meeting with a primary care physician, there is nothing wrong with that I did it after every tour I did in Iraq and if anyone has a problem with that fuck em, the goal is not to prove there is something wrong with you or lower your self esteem but rather to raise your social awareness and personal health making you feel better is not a bad thing....best of luck to you.

[Zeromentor 169]

The reason the word disorder is a part of the word Anti-Social Personality Disorder is because it is a condition. It should be treated with couciling and possibly even medication. If you had to leave your job because of something you did or couldn't handle that is called a warning sign. Botling up emotions till they explode or living with feelings of inadiquacy or hatred toward the world around you is not the picture of a normal psycological profile. If you had been honest about said condition on the mental health screaning I know they legaly were required to do before you started carrying a gun as a correctional officer then you would have been excluded from that line of work and for a very good reason. The fact you are intelligent enough to know that you have a "problem" is not a sign of insanity but the fact you so readily share it on an online forum with zero thought towards how you are seen in the world is indicative of a more serious issue. I would strongly suggest psychiatric counciling and meeting with a primary care physician, there is nothing wrong with that I did it after every tour I did in Iraq and if anyone has a problem with that fuck em, the goal is not to prove there is something wrong with you or lower your self esteem but rather to raise your social awareness and personal health making you feel better is not a bad thing....best of luck to you.

I quit because my employers were not following their own protocols, and were openning themselves up to lawsuits. Imagine warning them for months that things were ill-maintained, and when stuff started to fall apart they'd tried to blame the officers. When they didn't fix broken electronics, or faulty wiring that led to fires. No, it was not due to my emotions getting the best of me, or my inability to deal with work related issues, it was due to my life being in more danger from mismanaged resources than the inmates I was watching. Would you risk your life for 13.72 an hour? To me that isn't worth getting sued, especially when a 200 pound metal bed falls off a wall and cripples an inmate and your company tries to blame YOU because you were on duty. I followed regulations to the letter, filled out the right paperwork and even had security cameras proving I did my job. I called in a spinal injury and the control room IGNORED me, and after two additional attempts they finally asked, "Do you need a wheelchair?". I'd rather no go into detail, as that place has been under investigation for years, and only now are they firing those responsible for the problems going on at that facility. My sister still works there only because she can't afford to find another job.

And sociopaths don't need medicine for that alone. What would cause me to feel emotions towards people when I lack the ability to feel said emotions? It would be like you taking medicine to fly with your own arms. Impossible. I share my 'condition' on the forums so informed people know how my mind might work to some degree, and not make general assumptions of mental defect like, "OMG that dude crazy, he need to be on MEDS!" I don't care what people on the internet think of me. I don't meet people on the street and say, "Hi I'm Alex, I'm a sociopath." You don't know who I am on the internet, so I can reveal more than I usually do in real life. Your reaction is understandable, however.

But thanks for serving in the military. Strangely enough, it wasn't my mental condition that stopped me from serving, but a heart condition (heart murmur) that the recruiter and a doctor decided was enough to deny me. I have many friends in both the army and navy, and I respect them for that among many other reasons.

Back on topic, for one sentence, I sorta support German Shepards as pets. Rocket wants them ingame, I love them in real life. Win-Win. Although, I'm not so sure about pets ingame, I'd like to see german shepards.

EDIT: Also, Sociopathy is defined differently from one source to another, and most sources perfer using, "Anti-Social Personality Disorder" which I disagree with. Being Anti-Social doesn't mean "Can only feel shallow emotions, does not feel sympathy or empathy" solely, so I am grouped up with bombers and anarchists. If anything, think of me as extremely apathic. That's the simplist way I can explain it.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Zeromentor

[heretic (DayZ) 76]

Sorry OP. I dislike the whole sanity/insanity mechanism too.

There are many people in this world that do live a solitary lifestyle (either by choice or not) without going insane.

Personally, I avoid people most of the time. I can cope/rub along with folk for short periods of time, but do not need human company. I can get by for weeks at a time without speaking with other people. In truth I prefer it. I am a loner. But I am not insane.

Hell is other people! - Jean-Paul Sartre

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

I quit because my employers were not following their own protocols, and were openning themselves up to lawsuits. Imagine warning them for months that things were ill-maintained, and when stuff started to fall apart they'd tried to blame the officers. When they didn't fix broken electronics, or faulty wiring that led to fires. No, it was not due to my emotions getting the best of me, or my inability to deal with work related issues, it was due to my life being in more danger from mismanaged resources than the inmates I was watching. Would you risk your life for 13.72 an hour? To me that isn't worth getting sued, especially when a 200 pound metal bed falls off a wall and cripples an inmate and your company tries to blame YOU because you were on duty. I followed regulations to the letter, filled out the right paperwork and even had security cameras proving I did my job. I called in a spinal injury and the control room IGNORED me, and after two additional attempts they finally asked, "Do you need a wheelchair?". I'd rather no go into detail, as that place has been under investigation for years, and only now are they firing those responsible for the problems going on at that facility. My sister still works there only because she can't afford to find another job.

And sociopaths don't need medicine for that alone. What would cause me to feel emotions towards people when I lack the ability to feel said emotions? It would be like you taking medicine to fly with your own arms. Impossible. I share my 'condition' on the forums so informed people know how my mind might work to some degree, and not make general assumptions of mental defect like, "OMG that dude crazy, he need to be on MEDS!" I don't care what people on the internet think of me. I don't meet people on the street and say, "Hi I'm Alex, I'm a sociopath." You don't know who I am on the internet, so I can reveal more than I usually do in real life. Your reaction is understandable, however.

But thanks for serving in the military. Strangely enough, it wasn't my mental condition that stopped me from serving, but a heart condition (heart murmur) that the recruiter and a doctor decided was enough to deny me. I have many friends in both the army and navy, and I respect them for that among many other reasons.

Back on topic, for one sentence, I sorta support German Shepards as pets. Rocket wants them ingame, I love them in real life. Win-Win. Although, I'm not so sure about pets ingame, I'd like to see german shepards.

EDIT: Also, Sociopathy is defined differently from one source to another, and most sources perfer using, "Anti-Social Personality Disorder" which I disagree with. Being Anti-Social doesn't mean "Can only feel shallow emotions, does not feel sympathy or empathy" solely, so I am grouped up with bombers and anarchists. If anything, think of me as extremely apathic. That's the simplist way I can explain it.

I am not going to argue over your mental health with you I will however suggest you follow the link to the world renowned mayo clinic and try to draw some paralells between whatever you feel and their diagnosis and the suggestions they offer as to what might be most helpful to you in the way of treatment.....a self diagnosis is not a good one....

http://www.mayoclini...sorder/DS00829/

I would add that having never met you, I know far too much about your personal life this is an indication that you are lonely and want human interaction not that you are somehow immune to it's needs. In about 3 internet posts you have shared a good portion of your life story and with very little to no hesitation that is usually a factor in most peoples dealings over the internet. I personally think you need someone to talk to. Maybe you havn't realized it but your actions indicate it. Often times our actions subconciously betray our needs, look into it bro.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Hendrix

[Cerven 80]

You worked in a VA hospital and yet make casual jokes avout mental illness. As a vet of Afghanistan and Iraq, I want you to know that youre either a liar or a seriously fucked up individual.

[Zeromentor 169]

I am not going to argue over your mental health with you I will however suggest you follow the link to the world renowned mayo clinic and try to draw some paralells between whatever you feel and their diagnosis and the suggestions they offer as to what might be most helpful to you in the way of treatment.....a self diagnosis is not a good one....

http://www.mayoclini...sorder/DS00829/

I would add that having never met you, I know far too much about your personal life this is an indication that you are lonely and want human interaction not that you are somehow immune to it's needs. In about 3 internet posts you have shared a good portion of your life story and with very little to no hesitation that is usually a factor in most peoples dealings over the internet. I personally think you need somone to talk to. Maybe you havn't realized it but your actions indicate it. Often times our actions subconciously betray our needs, look into it bro.

I did not self diagnose, and I also know about that site, although I have never used it to get any information for anything. Thanks though.

My life story is fairly long, and you know very little of it from three posts. If you think that information above is quite a lot, then you would be amazed by both my entire life story and those of others, if they are interested in sharing them. All my secrets remain that, and any information I don't want you nor anyone else to have is kept secret. If asked, I would have revealled that information above to anyone. You assumed I resigned due to emotional performance or issues, which was untrue. I shared a small portion of why I resigned. The things that happened there are bad, and numberous and easily something you can find by looking up CCA on google.

I don't hesistate as your knowledge of me is extremely limited, and what little info I have given you isn't even enough to track me down, much less find out my name, (Hint: It isn't Alex).

I don't mind talking to people, and most of my life is an open book, excluding 2009. If it helps, I have many people to talk to, and not just over the internet. I could walk into the next room and strike up a conversation with either my nephew, my friend or my dad, and within 15 I could visit any number of friends or family. I'm not lonely, but thanks for the concern. (And before you ask, I'm in another room as I'm looking for time by myself, I'm introverted, and being around people or crowds tends to drain me of all my energy).

(I'm not insulting you, or being sarcastic. Prosidy, emotion and meaning is not shown well over the internet.)

EDIT: And if you don't mind, I'd rather not continue this here. I came to the DayZ forum to discuss DayZ, not myself. I am open to private messages, if you wish to continue this now or in the future.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Zeromentor

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

Sorry OP. I dislike the whole sanity/insanity mechanism too.

There are many people in this world that do live a solitary lifestyle (either by choice or not) without going insane.

Personally, I avoid people most of the time. I can cope/rub along with folk for short periods of time, but do not need human company. I can get by for weeks at a time without speaking with other people. In truth I prefer it. I am a loner. But I am not insane.

Hell is other people! - Jean-Paul Sartre

Problem is insane people don't know they are crazy in most cases they think they are perfectly normal... and mental health is a much bigger issues then most people think about it being. I'm sure you could name a half dozen people you know on various medications to help them cope with depression anxiety and other mental health related conditions...that should tell you something about the state of mental health. Now imagine if there was a zombie apocalypse and all those wonder drugs got cut off......the crazy would be in full effect......also coping with lonliness for brief periods is perfectly normal...If you lived alone in the woods for months at a time however there would be a sharp change in how you interacted with others and even the levels of certain chemicals in your body. Mental condition is not just an emotional desire it is a physical and chemical reaction that happens in the body and has very scientifically verifiable traits that occur and can be quantified.... I feel that if that could be translated into a horror game like this it could add to the entire affair. There was an old N64 horror game that had a similar style of sytem and the result was a very acid trippy like enjoyable horror experience where you began not just doubting what you could physically accomplish but what reality itself was within the realm of the world...I think that added layer of horror would really add alot to the game.

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

You worked in a VA hospital and yet make casual jokes avout mental illness. As a vet of Afghanistan and Iraq, I want you to know that youre either a liar or a seriously fucked up individual.

1. fuck off

2. fuck you

3. ever heard of MASH... a show about a bunch of military doctors that made fun of life while knee deep in the war...sometimes making fun of shit is how you cope with the absurdity of life.....

P.S.

posting a picture of yourself in green camo holding that weapon leads me to believe you were in the rear with the gear and only saw the inside of an armory....you probably went in and left a pfc...respect your NCO's shithead.

I would add gomer pile that if you actualy knew how to read the fucking english language you would know that from the point this guy made it clear he was not joking the only thing I gave him was sound medical advice,and even before that I only slightly ribbed him, but apparently you enjoy jumping to conclusions and tossing your small dick around where it can get stomped on....stay in your lane junior...

Edited July 18, 2012 by Hendrix

[Hendrix (DayZ) 14]

I did not self diagnose, and I also know about that site, although I have never used it to get any information for anything. Thanks though.

My life story is fairly long, and you know very little of it from three posts. If you think that information above is quite a lot, then you would be amazed by both my entire life story and those of others, if they are interested in sharing them. All my secrets remain that, and any information I don't want you nor anyone else to have is kept secret. If asked, I would have revealled that information above to anyone. You assumed I resigned due to emotional performance or issues, which was untrue. I shared a small portion of why I resigned. The things that happened there are bad, and numberous and easily something you can find by looking up CCA on google.

I don't hesistate as your knowledge of me is extremely limited, and what little info I have given you isn't even enough to track me down, much less find out my name, (Hint: It isn't Alex).

I don't mind talking to people, and most of my life is an open book, excluding 2009. If it helps, I have many people to talk to, and not just over the internet. I could walk into the next room and strike up a conversation with either my nephew, my friend or my dad, and within 15 I could visit any number of friends or family. I'm not lonely, but thanks for the concern. (And before you ask, I'm in another room as I'm looking for time by myself, I'm introverted, and being around people or crowds tends to drain me of all my energy).

(I'm not insulting you, or being sarcastic. Prosidy, emotion and meaning is not shown well over the internet.)

EDIT: And if you don't mind, I'd rather not continue this here. I came to the DayZ forum to discuss DayZ, not myself. I am open to private messages, if you wish to continue this now or in the future.

I never asked you word one about yourself you volunteered that info, if your done volunteering then fine no problem for me but if you want to lead off a post with "I am a sociopathic introvert" I am bound by the Hippocratic Oath to send you in the right direction once I determine your not some troll making shit up on a forum....