MP5SD mags convertable to M9SD and vice-versa

[spankimus 71]

They use the exact same rounds, do they not? If an ACP mag is convertable to M1911 mag, why not MP5SD to M9SD?

[Mustard (DayZ) 20]

I think they shouldn't be convertible (.45 ACP & 1911)....where does the dude get the other magazine from when he converts .45 acp to 1911?

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

I think they shouldn't be convertible (.45 ACP & 1911)....where does the dude get the other magazine from when he converts .45 acp to 1911?

Revolvers don't use magazines...

M1911's don't use magazines...

You take the bullets out of one gun and put them in another.

[BabylonUSArmy 21]

While you can't convert the mags, an mp5/sd can use m9/sd mags. Having said that, I'd like to be able to scavenge rounds off magazines to top off mags in my inventory. Say I'm using an FN FAL and I've got 2 full mags and one that's half full. If I find a DMR mag, what's stopping me from popping 10 rounds out of that magazine and filling my FAL mag? I'm totally fine with the magazines themselves not being interchangable, but there should be a way to refill magazines.

[BabylonUSArmy 21]

Revolvers don't use magazines...

M1911's don't use magazines...

You take the bullets out of one gun and put them in another.

?

1911s DO use magazines.

And a .45 ACP and a .45 Colt are totally different rounds.

[spankimus 71]

While you can't convert the mags, an mp5/sd can use m9/sd mags. Having said that, I'd like to be able to scavenge rounds off magazines to top off mags in my inventory. Say I'm using an FN FAL and I've got 2 full mags and one that's half full. If I find a DMR mag, what's stopping me from popping 10 rounds out of that magazine and filling my FAL mag? I'm totally fine with the magazines themselves not being interchangable, but there should be a way to refill magazines.

I don't understand why you could put an M9SD mag into an MP5SD, but not the other way around...

[Trolling R3bel 9]

I don't understand why you could put an M9SD mag into an MP5SD, but not the other way around...

MP5 mags are curved and will not fit in a M9. Unless you take te bullets out and find an empty M9 mag.

[spankimus 71]

But you can stick an M9 mag into an MP5? Makes sense.

[thorgold 91]

But you can stick an M9 mag into an MP5? Makes sense.

The M9's loading breach is through the grip, so the entire magazine must fit inside. Combined with the internal structure of the grip (guiding rails for the mag), only M9 magazines will fit. Try fitting a curved magazine into a straight slot.

However, an MP5 has an open loading breach (see picture). The entire magazine doesn't need to fit into any predetermined space, only for the top of the mag, which is universal in size for all 9mm weapons. Therefore, an MP5 can use almost any size magazine, from its curved 30 round magazine to its straight (and M9-esque) 15 round magazine to its drum 100 round magazine.

Edited July 15, 2012 by thorgold

[spankimus 71]

The M9's loading breach is through the grip, so the entire magazine must fit inside. Combined with the internal structure of the grip (guiding rails for the mag), only M9 magazines will fit. Try fitting a curved magazine into a straight slot.

However, an MP5 has an open loading breach (see picture). The entire magazine doesn't need to fit into any predetermined space, only for the top of the mag, which is universal in size for all 9mm weapons. Therefore, an MP5 can use almost any size magazine, from its curved 30 round magazine to its straight (and M9-esque) 15 round magazine to its drum 100 round magazine.

Even with that being said, and I figured someone would say something along those lines... Why are we able to convert an M1911 mag into a Revolver mag? All it means is we're taking the bullets out of the M1911 mag, and loading them straight into the revolver. So, why not take the bullets out of the MP5 mag and load them into the M9 mag?

[Ultenth 12]

Even with that being said, and I figured someone would say something along those lines... Why are we able to convert an M1911 mag into a Revolver mag? All it means is we're taking the bullets out of the M1911 mag, and loading them straight into the revolver. So, why not take the bullets out of the MP5 mag and load them into the M9 mag?

Exactly, but where are you getting the extra clip for the gun you're using? Because otherwise if you ran out of ammo you would need to sit and slowly reload that one clip over and over each time while in combat, but instead you can simply slap in another clip you pulled from the ether. Unless you just have extra empty M9 mag's laying around all over?

But really though, would be interesting if you could keep empty magazines, then fill them with similar rounds like anything 5.56 or 9mm or 7.62 being covertable if you have an extra clip to put them into (and some time to make the conversion.)

[spankimus 71]

Exactly, but where are you getting the extra clip for the gun you're using? Because otherwise if you ran out of ammo you would need to sit and slowly reload that one clip over and over each time while in combat, but instead you can simply slap in another clip you pulled from the ether. Unless you just have extra empty M9 mag's laying around all over?

But really though, would be interesting if you could keep empty magazines, then fill them with similar rounds like anything 5.56 or 9mm or 7.62 being covertable if you have an extra clip to put them into (and some time to make the conversion.)

This is something I have always thought of... Think of the M1911 mag. Say you have none, and you find a .45 ACP mag. How is it that you can bloop it into an M1911 mag? If we're already wizards at this, why can't we know the spell to bloop M9 and MP5 mags back and forth? :P

[Quaby 93]

?

1911s DO use magazines.

And a .45 ACP and a .45 Colt are totally different rounds.

I've always had a beef about that. The ACP is for the more modern stuff. The colt wouldn't fire it.

Edited July 20, 2012 by Quaby

[Pilot of Pripyat 9]

Don't overthink the magazine issue yet.

I do believe that they need to figure out all possible conversions first before they begin to worry about a Resident Evil Outbreak style magazine system. For instance at the moment I can't convert a dmr mag to a fal mag or an SVD mag. after we have all of these sorts of things, then we should begin asking for a true magazine system.

[KEEPCARLM 146]

I wanna know why I cant use a standard m9 mag in an m9 SD to be fair.

[moofactory 62]

I was going to pose the exact same question.

Bugger why can't convert 2sd types..

The bigger question is why the hell have "sd ammo" at all.

The only difference between an m9 and an m9sd is one has a detatchable silencer.

m9 mags in an m9 with or without silencer are still m9 mags. No different.

Or am I missing something.

How the Fuck does a silencer determine 2 mag or amo types!

[KEEPCARLM 146]

I think silenced weapons do actually use different rounds to non-silenced, because they need to use sub-sonic rounds which don't break the sound barrier.

[moofactory 62]

Sounds like crap.

It's the silencer's job to do the work.

Just like a muffler on a car exhaust.

You don't change mags when you screw on a silencer.

My apologies if ur right but that doesn't sound right for pistols with screw on silencer's.

Edited July 18, 2012 by moofactory

[KEEPCARLM 146]

Sounds like crap.

It's the silencer's job to do the work.

Just like a muffler on a car exhaust.

You don't change mags when you screw on a silencer.

My apologies if ur right but that doesn't sound right for pistols with screw on silencer's.

This is what every film and game would have you believe, sure... I'm not certain I am right that this is the case for all weapons... but perhaps some/most.

[Flail 10]

Sounds like crap.

It's the silencer's job to do the work.

Just like a muffler on a car exhaust.

You don't change mags when you screw on a silencer.

My apologies if ur right but that doesn't sound right for pistols with screw on silencer's.

Never served, hm? Next time use google please for information..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor

Read the following passages:

Sources of firearm noise

Subsonic ammunition and resulting Sonic Signature

aaaaaand

stop telling bullshit you don't know about,ok?

Have a nice day.

[moofactory 62]

Never served, hm? Next time use google please for information..

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Suppressor

Read the following passages:

Sources of firearm noise

Subsonic ammunition and resulting Sonic Signature

aaaaaand

stop telling bullshit you don't know about,ok?

Have a nice day.

How about getting off your high horse and pulling your head in.

Fact is, Im not wrong...dependent on the firearm.

But besides all that, Your soapbox display is completely irrelevant.

There is nothing physically stopping a suppressed weapon from using normal ammunition, its merely louder than subsonic ammunition.

It does NOT mean it can not be put into the gun with or without the suppressor which I might add, is NOT a permanent fixture on some weapons.

My Gripe is why are we FORCED... to use Specialty amo and not be given the choice.

Fact is... the mags are physically no different and can and will fire both regardless.

So be careful what you imply as bullshitting...Mr superiority complex.

No, I never served nor claimed to be an expert on the subject.

and I pointed out that fact you conveniently overlooked.

You cant just blanket what ive said as bullshit for all firearms.

Case and point... from the link you helpfully supplied:

"Instead of using subsonic ammunition, one can also lower the muzzle velocity of a supersonic bullet before it leaves the barrel. Some suppressor designs, referred to as "integrals", do this by allowing gas to bleed off along the length of the barrel before the projectile exits.

The MP5SD is the best example of this with holes right after the chamber of the barrel used to reduce a regular 115 or 124 gr ammo to subsonic velocities."

Which begs the quesion.

Why in the MP5SD's example can we not use regular MP5 mags.

It states right there why it can.

Edited July 18, 2012 by moofactory

[shaggy02@live.com 0]

For the most part while reading this thread I was agreeing with Flail, moofactory does raise a good point regarding the MP5SD.

Also guys, most of the guns in DayZ use "Magazines" with a few exceptions (the ACP ammo icon is a "clip" and the CZ550 also uses a "clip".

[wh1tey 1]

How about getting off your high horse and pulling your head in.

Fact is, Im not wrong...dependent on the firearm.

But besides all that, Your soapbox display is completely irrelevant.

There is nothing physically stopping a suppressed weapon from using normal ammunition, its merely louder than subsonic ammunition.

It does NOT mean it can not be put into the gun with or without the suppressor which I might add, is NOT a permanent fixture on some weapons.

My Gripe is why are we FORCED... to use Specialty amo and not be given the choice.

Fact is... the mags are physically no different and can and will fire both regardless.

So be careful what you imply as bullshitting...Mr superiority complex.

No, I never served nor claimed to be an expert on the subject.

and I pointed out that fact you conveniently overlooked.

You cant just blanket what ive said as bullshit for all firearms.

Case and point... from the link you helpfully supplied:

"Instead of using subsonic ammunition, one can also lower the muzzle velocity of a supersonic bullet before it leaves the barrel. Some suppressor designs, referred to as "integrals", do this by allowing gas to bleed off along the length of the barrel before the projectile exits.

The MP5SD is the best example of this with holes right after the chamber of the barrel used to reduce a regular 115 or 124 gr ammo to subsonic velocities."

Which begs the quesion.

Why in the MP5SD's example can we not use regular MP5 mags.

It states right there why it can.

i agree with that because in this scenario u need all u can get to stay alive, for example u got a glock17 with 0 bullets, but u got a mp5a5 mag witch uses the same bullets like the glock17, u need to switch the bullets from the mp5a5 mag to the glock 17 mag, u got only 15 or 17 shots in that glock 17 mag, but u got them it could help to survive a zombie attack.

Edited July 18, 2012 by wh1tey

[Mustard (DayZ) 20]

Revolvers don't use magazines...

M1911's don't use magazines...

You take the bullets out of one gun and put them in another.

1911's don't use magazines....you sir are an idiot

[unr3a1.r00t@gmail.com 2]

Which begs the quesion.

Why in the MP5SD's example can we not use regular MP5 mags.

It states right there why it can.

You are 100% correct. Even further - in the game, SD weapons do not do less damage than their non-SD counterparts, and they both have the same effective range, which means that the ammo, is actually all the same velocity. So the magazines should be interchangeable between the weapons. M9 <> M9SD and MP5 <> MP5SD, and the ammo should be interchangeable between everything.

Also, regarding the capability to convert .45 ACP to M1911, the revolver only uses 6 shots. Not only does converting .45 ACP to M1911 seemingly produce a 1911 magazine out of thin air, it also generates a 7th round to fill the mag.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Unreal