Body Armor

[Vertisce 158]

This has likely been brought up before but I think it would be an excellent addition to the game. Body armor could just be a drop you find on the ground like everything else. Right click the item in inventory to apply it. The armor would have a durability which once completely broken just goes away and no longer gives a benefit. Im thinking body armor would give you an advantage specifically in fire fights. Right now if someone shoots you, you pretty much immediately drop dead or you are down with no way to fight back. Body armor could change that and give you a chance to shoot back instead of just dying right away. This would help with the banditry issue. How do I know that guy doesn't have body armor and wont just turn around and shoot me too? Right now it is too simple to kill someone. So long as you shoot first you will likely win.

Thoughts? I did a search but didn't see anything specifically on this topic.

[CorrosiveDragon 0]

i would like to see that.

[Stonedknight 26]

Get rid of Czech Vest Pouch and replace with Tactical Vest. Keep the amount of backpack slots. Make it a General(low chance)/General Military(under 5% chance)

Edited July 12, 2012 by Stonedknight

[matt.gilmurray@gmail.com 46]

I brought it up before check my signature. A bump would be cool since it was the original.

[zor. 4]

If you add armor you may as well add pouches for mags that limit ammo, slow down characters, increase water consumption/fatigue, and even then you would still get fucked up after getting hit with a projectile travelling over 3000 fps. Not to mention you have less mobility.

It's a horrible idea.

Edited July 12, 2012 by zor.

[VII_MATT_IIV 18]

Get rid of Czech Vest Pouch and replace with Tactical Vest. Keep the amount of backpack slots. Make it a General(low chance)/General Military(under 5% chance)

+1 to this - Body armour at the cost of backpack space and/or movement speed.

[EDIT] - Typo

Edited July 12, 2012 by VII_MATT_IIV

[kims4@live.no 29]

Hmm... Kevlar vest, with pouches, same amount of space as check or patrol pack.

Then we have high tech, military out of space stuff yo.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Dragon_Skin This under 5% Czech backpack space vest around it.

Edit: Less performance than the Dragon Skin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interceptor_body_armor should be more common, just not as resilient.

Check it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_vest#Performance_standards

Edited July 12, 2012 by Photon

[eoino 2]

Would be nice to see something like this, something more defensive for a change.

[Taylor (DayZ) 7]

The survivor model already has a ballistic vest, so a new one would be in order.

Getting hit in the main parts of the vest could absorb a certain amount of rounds depending on caliber, then have to go and find consumable steel/ceramic ballistic plates for it to still be useful against rifles. It would still be useful against 9mm, .45, and buckshot.

[Techercizer 82]

You're already wearing body armor. That's why you can take two small caliber rounds to the chest without dying.

[Vertisce 158]

If you add armor you may as well add pouches for mags that limit ammo, slow down characters, increase water consumption/fatigue, and even then you would still get fucked up after getting hit with a projectile travelling over 3000 fps. Not to mention you have less mobility.

It's a horrible idea.

I like the idea of increasing water consumption and fatigue with added weight. If you knew anything about how body armor works at all...yes...you would be hurt when hit by a bullet but not dying and still able to fight back unless hit in the head or exposed part of the body.

I think headshots should be an instant kill.

You're already wearing body armor. That's why you can take two small caliber rounds to the chest without dying.

If this is the case then it needs a bit more balancing. It is far too easy to kill someone with a gun, even a small caliber one right now. The person being shot should have a chance to react and retaliate or flee without immediately dying in one shot.

Especially when you shoot them in the ass. I shot a guy from the hospital roof when he was in the school with an Einfeld. Shot right in the ass and he died...too easy.

I brought it up before check my signature. A bump would be cool since it was the original.

I get "File not found" when I click the link in your sig. Anybody else get that too? I will gladly bump your thread and request mine be merged to yours if I can get into it.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Vertisce

[Vertisce 158]

Might also be a way to have a reason to kill them military zombies too. If body armor and more militaristic items dropped off them anyway...

[Liixe 0]

The problem is that Kevlar Vests are not invincibility suits. They act like a bullet 'goal net' in a sense, and they stop becoming effective after maybe a couple shots. I don't really see it being used, especially if it replaces the backpack. Why would you choose to wear something to stop a couple shots from a medium power firearm and lose so many spaces of inventory?

[Vertisce 158]

Never said anything about replacing a backpack. That would be stupid. Kevlar vests don't stop working after a couple of shots. I know this from experience. Yes...with enough hits it would stop being anywhere near as effective but the idea still holds. It should just be an item you right click on in inventory and then add to armor or something. Just like food or soda...it just adds points to an armor meter or something and the armor itself has some sort of set effect to help protect you.

[zor. 4]

I like the idea of increasing water consumption and fatigue with added weight. If you knew anything about how body armor works at all...yes...you would be hurt when hit by a bullet but not dying and still able to fight back unless hit in the head or exposed part of the body.

thanks for repeating what I said..

[StickyNote 25]

You're already wearing body armor. That's why you can take two small caliber rounds to the chest without dying.

It's not clear whether or not you're wearing armor. Visually it only shows you wearing a plate carrier. Whether or not you have a kevlar insert or trauma plates in there isn't shown so it's arguable that you start out unarmored.

As for taking small caliber rounds and surviving, getting shot in the chest or even in the head isn't always a one shot kill. The man that founded Delta Force himself took a .50 caliber round to the stomach and lived. In fact one of the common complaints about the 5.56 rounds, even still prevailing now that they've switched to the 62 grain steel cores, is that they're not particularly lethal at certain ranges. Sometimes putting round after round into someone just wont drop them due to the size and speed of the round, and at certain ranges, these rounds fail to tumble, which is the effective cause of death with the small caliber rifle rounds.

[funky_mish 75]

personally I'd say no to this. I think there's already too much of a lean towards military gear. Also ease of death is one of the appeals of the game, for tension and realism.

If it was implemented, though, I'd agree to it being a trade-off for movement speed/inventory space

[Jonson (DayZ) 31]

You're already wearing body armor. That's why you can take two small caliber rounds to the chest without dying.

That and not more. Just imagine beeing hit by a bullet. No matter if you are wearing armor or not, you would much rather be lying on the floor crying in pain than turning around and shooting back.

[StickyNote 25]

personally I'd say no to this. I think there's already too much of a lean towards military gear. Also ease of death is one of the appeals of the game, for tension and realism.

If it was implemented, though, I'd agree to it being a trade-off for movement speed/inventory space

I agree that ease of death should be one of the main appeals of this game. But personally I think that ease of death should come from the zombies first, and bandits second. Pretty much every single one of my deaths, bar the times I broke my legs, were from getting shot by bandits. As of this moment I have no fear of zombies, just other players that murder for sport.

Simply have body armor offer protection against bullets and not zombies.

That and not more. Just imagine beeing hit by a bullet. No matter if you are wearing armor or not, you would much rather be lying on the floor crying in pain than turning around and shooting back.

Just because you've been shot, doesn't mean you'll be in crippling pain. There's videos and testimony of tons of people getting shot and not even knowing it. On youtube there's even a man who shoots himself while practicing holster drills. All he ends up doing is complain about it, and limp off to treat the wound.

[Techercizer 82]

Just because you've been shot, doesn't mean you'll be in crippling pain. There's videos and testimony of tons of people getting shot and not even knowing it. On youtube there's even a man who shoots himself while practicing holster drills. All he ends up doing is complain about it, and limp off to treat the wound.

That would be in the case that the bullet doesn't slam into enough reinforced vest to dump every last joule of its kinetic energy into the target's muscular and skeletal structure. People wear kevlar because it can save their lives, not because it's comfortable or fun.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Techercizer

[StickyNote 25]

That would be in the case that the bullet doesn't slam into enough reinforced vest to dump every last joule of its kinetic energy into the target's skin and skeletal structure. People wear kevlar because it can save their lives, not because it's comfortable or fun.

Yes that hurts more when you get shot wearing only kevlar, but not enough to throw you on the floor crying in pain.

Especially if you're wearing a trauma plate with your kevlar, disappating the force throughout your entire chest region, severely lowering pain, and of course, trauma, from the bullet impact.

I myself own a pair of standalone ar500 steel trauma plates level III rated capable of withstanding a .308 Winchester at 2780 ft/s round (which is the SAAMI designation for the higher pressure version of the 7.62x51 NATO) by itself without any kevlar.

Edited July 12, 2012 by StickyNote

[Vertisce 158]

thanks for repeating what I said..

Which is why I said "I like the idea"...learn to read and you are welcome.

That and not more. Just imagine beeing hit by a bullet. No matter if you are wearing armor or not, you would much rather be lying on the floor crying in pain than turning around and shooting back.

Maybe you should try it so you know what you are talking about first.

Edited July 23, 2012 by Vertisce

[Tyler Bro 20]

I agree as well. :)

[thelonewarrior 886]

Maybe a good idea is have different kinds of armour

Kevlar vest means you cant sprint, just run normally but reduces damage by 50% and you never go into shock or bleed if hit on the torso only

Combat helmets will make you immune to headshots, but I cant think of a disadvantage for them right now

Edited July 23, 2012 by thelonewarrior

[Sinoby 39]

I for one, like the idea of armor. I've been thinking about it a while ago, but never posted. Ofc it should result in slower running speed and faster water/food level decrease, but that will add a nice new military grade item.