Gaidoon 19 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) I'm suggesting to replace Battle Eye it is a failed system that Can Global Ban you for things you didn't do such as someone running a Script on you without you even know I'm hoping the Devs can replace it with a system they control and mange that looks for specific scripts and can tell if someone else is indeed running scripts on other people and only giving temp bans for picking up hacked weapons since most people don't even realize they are hacked. So if anyone has a better solution to Battle Eye Or something they don't like about it please post below.Edit: Sorry For the Title Spelling error I can't edit the Title with the new Forum Update. Edited July 11, 2012 by Gaidoon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suspense 210 Posted July 11, 2012 Battleye only bans the CDKey that the script is ran from. If someone runs a script on you, your "playerID" is affected, it is not initiating the script and thus not banning you. I dont know who told you that battleye bans if you pick up something spawned by another player, but it doesnt. There can be few cases of false bans like any other anti-cheating system have. But its not broad like you make it appear to be. Everytime someone runs a script, it is clearly logged on the servers and battleye reads these logs in order to enforce a ban or deny a script. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaidoon 19 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Battleye only bans the CDKey that the script is ran from. If someone runs a script on you, your "playerID" is affected, it is not initiating the script and thus not banning you.I dont know who told you that battleye bans if you pick up something spawned by another player, but it doesnt. There can be few cases of false bans like any other anti-cheating system have. But its not broad like you make it appear to be.Everytime someone runs a script, it is clearly logged on the servers and battleye reads these logs in order to enforce a ban or deny a script.No one told me i Read Numerous posts and got an email from The battle Eye Support their system bans you for Modified Hacked items and Scripts ran on you. Also on a side not if anyone can tell me a way to edit the title please PM me. Edited July 11, 2012 by Gaidoon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Food 309 Posted July 11, 2012 BattleEye could still use some work, but with the new rush of players (and hackers) they need to work out a new system of cheat detection. Right now it's really only effective against copy and pasting noobs lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suspense 210 Posted July 11, 2012 No one told me i Read Numerous posts and got an email from The battle Eye Support their system bans you for Modified Hacked items and Scripts ran on you. Also on a side not if anyone can tell me a way to edit the title please PM me.Id love a screenshot of this emailBattleEye could still use some work, but with the new rush of players (and hackers) they need to work out a new system of cheat detection. Right now it's really only effective against copy and pasting noobs lol.Actually, Battleye allows for a lot of diversity and allows admins to deny scripts themselfs. If any admin actually wanted their server to be more or less safe, they would use Battleeyes feature of disallowing specific scripts by adding them to a .txt file. This instantly denies any script you ad, such as spawn weapons, vehicles or any other shenanigens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaidoon 19 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Battle Eye Fails I'm not sure if this works but i believe this lets you Get other players banned either on the server or a global. Note this is old and Public and will get you banned.private["_pList", "j", "i", "_pArray", "v", "_dir", "_pos"];_pList = playableUnits;j = count _pList;i = 0;_pArray = [];for "i" from 0 to j do { player = _pList select i; player addweapon "SCAR_H_LNG_Sniper_SD"; player addweapon "M9SD"; player addweapon "Binocular_Vector"; player addweapon "NVGoggles"; player addweapon "ItemGPS"; player addweapon "ItemMap"; player addweapon "ItemCompass"; player addweapon "ItemWatch"; player addweapon "ItemFlashlightRed"; player addweapon "ItemKnife"; player addweapon "ItemHatchet"; player addweapon "ItemMatchbox"; player addweapon "ItemEtool"; player addweapon "ItemToolbox"; player addMagazine "15Rnd_9x19_M9SD"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "20rnd_762x51_SB_SCAR"; player addMagazine "ItemMorphine"; player addMagazine "ItemMorphine"; player addMagazine "Skin_Camo1_DZ"; player addMagazine "FoodSteakCooked"; player addMagazine "FoodSteakCooked"; player addMagazine "ItemWaterbottle"; player addMagazine "ItemWaterbottle"; player addMagazine "ItemBloodbag"; player addMagazine "ItemBloodbag"; player addMagazine "HandGrenade_west"; player addMagazine "HandGrenade_west"; player selectWeapon "SCAR_H_LNG_Sniper_SD"; }; Edited July 11, 2012 by Gaidoon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suspense 210 Posted July 11, 2012 Battle Eye Fails I'm not sure if this works but i believe this lets you Get other players banned either on the server or a global. Note this is old and Public and will get you banned.private["_pList", "j", "i", "_pArray", "v", "_dir", "_pos"];_pList = playableUnits;j = count _pList;i = 0;_pArray = [];for "i" from 0 to j do { player = _pList select i; player addweapon "SCAR_H_LNG_Sniper_SD"; player addweapon "M9SD"; player addweapon "Binocular_Vector"; player addweapon "NVGoggles"; player addweapon "ItemGPS"; player addweapon "ItemMap"; player addweapon "ItemCompass"; player addweapon "ItemWatch"; player addweapon "ItemFlashlightRed"; player addweapon "ItemKnife"; player addweapon "ItemHatchet"; player addweapon "ItemMatchbox"; player addweapon "ItemEtool"; player addweapon "ItemToolbox"; player addMagazine "15Rnd_9x19_M9SD"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "ItemBandage"; player addMagazine "20rnd_762x51_SB_SCAR"; player addMagazine "ItemMorphine"; player addMagazine "ItemMorphine"; player addMagazine "Skin_Camo1_DZ"; player addMagazine "FoodSteakCooked"; player addMagazine "FoodSteakCooked"; player addMagazine "ItemWaterbottle"; player addMagazine "ItemWaterbottle"; player addMagazine "ItemBloodbag"; player addMagazine "ItemBloodbag"; player addMagazine "HandGrenade_west"; player addMagazine "HandGrenade_west"; player selectWeapon "SCAR_H_LNG_Sniper_SD"; };No it wont. This script would have to be initiated from X ip on Y player, and cd key that initiates the script, gets banned. Not the cd key it is enforced on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaidoon 19 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) No it wont. This script would have to be initiated from X ip on Y player, and cd key that initiates the script, gets banned. Not the cd key it is enforced onWell Have you ever seen it tested I haven't? All i know is i see people posting ban appeals left and right and i think something is failing here because that many people can't be cheating. I aslo still think we need a temp ban system and giving control to the DEV team. Edited July 11, 2012 by Gaidoon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suspense 210 Posted July 11, 2012 Well Have you ever seen it tested I haven't? All i know is i see people posting ban appeals left and right and i think something is failing here because that many people can't be cheating.You would be surprised.Up until 4 days ago, the only "easy" and "user friendly" script hack was one developed last year, and had been detected for months. People before now, used small specific scripts to spawn specific things, like vehicles through file editing. This wasnt user friendly.3-4 days ago, a new hack was released based on the code of the "old one" which allows people to run all kinds of scripts. This is why we see so many videos of hackers at this moment, people spawning things, dropping bombs, teleporting everyone to 1 spot. These things are all results of a popular mod where gear has some form of meaning, and a new hack that allows you to be "on top" of everyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaidoon 19 Posted July 11, 2012 You would be surprised.Up until 4 days ago, the only "easy" and "user friendly" script hack was one developed last year, and had been detected for months. People before now, used small specific scripts to spawn specific things, like vehicles through file editing. This wasnt user friendly.3-4 days ago, a new hack was released based on the code of the "old one" which allows people to run all kinds of scripts. This is why we see so many videos of hackers at this moment, people spawning things, dropping bombs, teleporting everyone to 1 spot. These things are all results of a popular mod where gear has some form of meaning, and a new hack that allows you to be "on top" of everyone else.PM me the link to it so i can see the evidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suspense 210 Posted July 11, 2012 PM me the link to it so i can see the evidence.As long as you dont use it lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaidoon 19 Posted July 11, 2012 Oh this i've seen it before i didn't think it would become so popular or that it would actually work lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stoop_Kid 2 Posted July 11, 2012 Every anti-cheat software is going to suck in some aspect. Unless you want to form a volunteer coalition of users that reports to the dev team (and, thus, is held responsible for their disciplinary actions) there's really not much of a better solution.Arma 3, and the potential move to a stand-alone game might yield some new developments, but, otherwise, just avoid hackers when you can and report activity you have evidence on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suspense 210 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Oh this i've seen it before i didn't think it would become so popular or that it would actually work lol.The views of the topic says a bit, 11 thousand. Its more broad then you would think. Edited July 11, 2012 by Suspenselol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaidoon 19 Posted July 11, 2012 The views of the topic says a bit, 11 thousand. Its more broad then you would think.Read the fifth page of replies on the script executer it was outdated last week and detected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suspense 210 Posted July 11, 2012 Read the fifth page of replies on the script executer it was outdated last week and detected.Was functioning 3 days ago, the bypass is detected, which isnt the hack itself. It comes with a BE bypas that is supposed to bypass script restrictions put in place by server admins. It will still function on some servers. Along with that, if you check the root forum, you will find several new ways of getting "around" BE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaidoon 19 Posted July 11, 2012 Was functioning 3 days ago, the bypass is detected, which isnt the hack itself. It comes with a BE bypas that is supposed to bypass script restrictions put in place by server admins. It will still function on some servers. Along with that, if you check the root forum, you will find several new ways of getting "around" BE.Well I'm sure they will get outdated in a week the problem is that it's so easy to get around battle Eye i know some people like using script so why not have script friendly servers or just Put in a better Anti Cheat system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawc 63 Posted July 11, 2012 ...All i know is i see people posting ban appeals left and right and i think something is failing here because that many people can't be cheating. ...People are lying, simple as that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparta436 46 Posted July 11, 2012 I'm all for this, battle eye has failed us. I'm sick of people using scripts to locate my vehicles, I'm sick of people teleporting with guns that arent even IN dayz and killing me. I once killed a hacker, took his sniper rifle, and then made him rage. He spawned warheads that fell from the sky and wiped the entire map clean of buildings and people. Hacking is an all to common occurence and frankly i'm sick of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaidoon 19 Posted July 11, 2012 This thread is in severe need of votes and attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jostster@gmail.com 17 Posted July 18, 2012 Seeing as BE is in ARMA and not DayZ I see this thread going nowhere fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Kyrah 1110 Posted July 18, 2012 God i love those "expert" discussion.</sarcasm> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites