Presence- 46 Posted February 19 (edited) The way the Christmas event is implemented as it is currently does not make sense in a post-apocalyptic contextual content. I understand that it is PVP inducing but making specific events just for the sake of PVP interaction at the expense of the contextual setting wouldn't be what I support. More precisely, it is a question of form (how it is implemented) rather than the implementation itself. On a personal level, the Christmas Event in DayZ is immersion breaking. From an authentic survival perspective, this is conflicting. In a survival content, supplies must be truly rare and hard to find, because being spoiled is the antagonism of confronting a constraint and there is survival in constraints.From a contextual setting lens, it is breaking suspension of disbelief. If a book is good, readers can easily imagine the story and forget they are reading. The crashes of Santa's sleigh, Christmas music for the crash of Santa's sleigh, reindeer meat near Santa's sleigh, the bright "magical" light coming from the sky towards Santa's sleigh, wrapped gift boxes, tons of supplies placed and put back under a lit Christmas tree in a post-apocalyptic setting constantly remind me that I am playing a game and, alternately, that I'm not in a post-apocalyptic setting.Related topic: Abundance of ressources conflicts with survival experience Edited February 19 by Presence- 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted February 19 Stop complaining. Be glad that the last devs bother to add anything at all to the game. The devs probly used all 74 IQ points to add this well thought out feature. ..they are really hard working and deserve to be praised for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Presence- 46 Posted February 19 On 2/19/2025 at 3:21 PM, dayzplayer1234 said: Stop complaining. Be glad that the last devs bother to add anything at all to the game. The devs probly used all 74 IQ points to add this well thought out feature. ..they are really hard working and deserve to be praised for it. My post isn't saying that developers aren't working hard, but it's exposing an issue with the survival elements that anyone can discuss. So, for you to come to me from behind your screen and say "stop complaining" is a bit condescending. And quite honestly, I would have broken your bitch mouth for talking to me like that if you had the guts to come and tell me to my face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DefectiveWater 542 Posted February 19 On 2/19/2025 at 2:49 PM, Presence- said: On a personal level, the Christmas Event in DayZ is immersion breaking. There is no way to make a Christmas event not immersion breaking. If it really was an apocalyptic scenario, nobody would care about christmas, it's just another day that you have to survive. I honestly don't mind it, it doesn't last forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Presence- 46 Posted February 19 (edited) On 2/19/2025 at 3:46 PM, DefectiveWater said: There is no way to make a Christmas event not immersion breaking. If it really was an apocalyptic scenario, nobody would care about christmas, it's just another day that you have to survive. I honestly don't mind it, it doesn't last forever. I disagree. I would encourage them to put Christmas-themed loot (clothes for example) for that specific event to find during that duration just like any other loot, but that's it. It might be enough to encourage people to go and get them without compromising other aspects. Edited February 19 by Presence- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Likvid-cb38db5edb1efdb0 31 Posted February 20 Honestly, for me this event also breaks the immersion. I generally try not to play on official servers during such events. Santa's sleigh falling, pumpkins on heads, goats with glowing eyes? This is a game about survival in the post-apocalypse, about the harsh stories of survivors, and not a circus with seasonal events like "find a free NVG under the Christmas tree" or "kill a goat in a witch's hat". Maybe my opinion will not be popular, but I see Dayz as a serious game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riddick_2K 186 Posted February 21 On 2/20/2025 at 7:05 AM, Likvid-cb38db5edb1efdb0 said: Maybe my opinion will not be popular, but I see Dayz as a serious game. At least that's how it should be. I fear that for many reasons, for a long time (not only for Christmas events), it hasn't been like that... (I could make a looong list). And, on the other hand... by the programmers' own admission (through the voice of one of their representatives), they don't even intend to make it a serious and realistic thing... unfortunately. 😔 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted February 21 (edited) On 2/19/2025 at 3:36 PM, Presence- said: My post isn't saying that developers aren't working hard, but it's exposing an issue with the survival elements that anyone can discuss. So, for you to come to me from behind your screen and say "stop complaining" is a bit condescending. And quite honestly, I would have broken your bitch mouth for talking to me like that if you had the guts to come and tell me to my face. Jeah...I was being sarcastic.(Might be difficult to tell in written form but I thought I was quite obvious)..so instead of focusing on breaking mouths you steroid pumped mongol...maybe focus on reading and actually trying to understand the sentences and words you reply to. Probly too long of a read for you. You got lost and confused before the end of the first sentence. Also the low iq part probly stroke a cord with you and made u feel insecure so you resort to mouth breaking. Yes I agree it's immersion breaking...like dayz is advertised as hardcore survivalgame.... then they add stupid stuff like that...feels just "cheap" Edited February 21 by dayzplayer1234 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Presence- 46 Posted February 22 On 2/21/2025 at 10:53 PM, dayzplayer1234 said: Jeah...I was being sarcastic.(Might be difficult to tell in written form but I thought I was quite obvious)..so instead of focusing on breaking mouths you steroid pumped mongol...maybe focus on reading and actually trying to understand the sentences and words you reply to. Probly too long of a read for you. You got lost and confused before the end of the first sentence. Also the low iq part probly stroke a cord with you and made u feel insecure so you resort to mouth breaking. Yes I agree it's immersion breaking...like dayz is advertised as hardcore survivalgame.... then they add stupid stuff like that...feels just "cheap" Why wouldn't this broken mouth be sarcastic? I think the 74 IQ points are unfair to the developers, they deserve better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 2:22 PM, Presence- said: Why wouldn't this broken mouth be sarcastic? I think the 74 IQ points are unfair to the developers, they deserve better. allright.. The iq part is a bit unfair... Its more like they are just lazy OR a bunch of apes in a studio smashing keyboards and throwing sh*t at the game. ( an avarage steam workshop modder would think of and create a better and more suited "holiday event " than these devs come up with....Idk they could put in a bit more tought ...like 50% of their development is holiday events. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Presence- 46 Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 4:35 PM, dayzplayer1234 said: allright.. The iq part is a bit unfair... Its more like they are just lazy OR a bunch of apes in a studio smashing keyboards and throwing sh*t at the game. ( an avarage steam workshop modder would think of and create a better and more suited "holiday event " than these devs come up with....Idk they could put in a bit more tought ...like 50% of their development is holiday events. I think it's a well thought out idea because maybe the developers thought to their audience "no, you're right, let's play it the dumbest way possible because it's easier for you" but also to themselves. The stick is thrown to the rabid dogs and anything that can be taken literally will be taken literally. The Christmas event is either for those who are too consumed and bitten by the bug or for the mind game circus. Why shouldn't this annual Christmas Event be sarcastic? Thanks to the developers, we appreciate your sarcasm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Presence- 46 Posted February 22 On 2/22/2025 at 4:35 PM, dayzplayer1234 said: allright.. The iq part is a bit unfair... Its more like they are just lazy OR a bunch of apes in a studio smashing keyboards and throwing sh*t at the game. ( an avarage steam workshop modder would think of and create a better and more suited "holiday event " than these devs come up with....Idk they could put in a bit more tought ...like 50% of their development is holiday events. I think it's a well thought out idea because maybe the developers thought to their audience "no, you're right, let's play it the dumbest way possible because it's easier for you" but also to themselves. The stick is thrown to the rabid dogs and anything that can be taken literally will be taken literally. The Christmas event is either for those who are too consumed and bitten by the bug or for the mind game circus. Why shouldn't this annual Christmas event be sarcastic? Thanks to the developers, we appreciate your sarcasm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riddick_2K 186 Posted February 24 @Likvid-cb38db5edb1efdb0 I don't know why you put the "sad" reaction. If it's for the list of absurdities and unrealism of DayZ, I'll try to complete it and add it soon (but I fear it could start long controversies). If it's because you don't believe that the programmers do NOT intend to make it a "realistic" game, read these 2 links: 1)https://forums.dayz.com/topic/251751-dayzs-flawed-foundations-movement-and-gunplay/?page=10&tab=comments#comment-2494800 2)https://forums.dayz.com/topic/263334-experimental-update-126-change-log/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-2499089 😔 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyongo Bongo 247 Posted February 24 (edited) I think the christmas event is very funny. But I also prefer not to have such immersion and also gameplay breaking events. I think it would be an improvement if the events were more time limited. I'd say one week for christmas and one weekend, maybe one day for Halloween would be a good compromise between funny event and hardcore immersion. I'd limit the loot pool under the trees to gift paper, christmas clothes and candy canes, the canes shouldn't give you 3000 calories xD I'd also remove the night vision from the pumpkin helmet and add a vision limiting effect like in minecraft or DayZ with the welding mask. The abundand C4, grenades, food aswell as the nvg capability of the pumpkins really messes with the games loot economy and overall feel. Imagine you are very busy and finally have some time to play DayZ because of the holidays, but the game is not apocalyptic feeling at all during that time. In the past I was not looking forward to playing between october and december, because of these events coming pretty close to eachother and lasting a while. Emotionally xD I don't remember the actual factual durations. Imagine you have 1 week christmas vacation and you are a basebuilder. Have fun! Every freshie has two C4 burritos under their christmas sweater. While I don't build bases, I'd like to mention that bases being too easy to raid is an often heard complaint. I totally disagree that bases are easy to raid, but during christmas it is absolutely true and unnecessarily easy. Why does christmas have to come hand in hand with an abundance of base raiding supplies? It's not fun to raid bases if I know it's extremely easy only because of the event. Edited February 24 by Pyongo Bongo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
