Stop being so butthurt over murders

[lunchyyy 9]

Seriously, why would you penalize someone for simply killing another player? It's a part of the game, not to mention half the time its going to be in self defence anyway.

Someone said they were friendly to you and still killed you? What so you never lied in your life before? Farming some loot when you and your mates get sniped? Your damn fault for not being observant and just standing around after someone is killed (I had fun sniping people like this, then my mates can go and loot)

While I'll admit I love having the idea of a bandit skin (The old one looked so fucking operator I love it!) punishing people for killing another player is so so so stupid.

So you got killed unlucky, hey have a look around for my sympathy where is it? So you died and now you want to ruin the game experience for heaps of players by punishing them for killing other players? We'll just change the game and ruin it for everyone else now shall we? SHALL WE OR NOT?

I also love to go down to Elektro and just sniping people. M107 makes it too easy :)

[unknown..2..u 0]

The definition of murder.

noun

1. the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another:

the brutal murder of a German holidaymaker

[mass noun]:

he was put on trial for attempted murder

2. [mass noun] informal a very difficult or unpleasant task or experience:

the 40-mile-per-hour winds at the summit were murder

verb

[with object]

1. kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation:

he was accused of murdering his wife’s lover

2. informal punish severely or be very angry with:

my father will murder me if I’m home late

conclusively defeat (an opponent) in a game or sport.

spoil by lack of skill or knowledge:

the only thing he had murdered was the English language

chiefly British consume (food or drink) greedily or with relish: I could murder some chips.

Murder is not good, people can be butt-hurt if they want.

[Marsunpaisti 0]

I dont consider killing people a bad thing UNLESS you do it for the lolz without even looting the corpse.

Self-defense or murdering for loot is acceptable but god, if you want to shoot people just for fun, go do it somewhere else.

[LumberBack 43]

I dont consider killing people a bad thing UNLESS you do it for the lolz without even looting the corpse.

Self-defense or murdering for loot is acceptable but god' date=' if you want to shoot people just for fun, go do it somewhere else.

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you are talking about more then half the players... they just kill because they can...

[Marsunpaisti 0]

I dont consider killing people a bad thing UNLESS you do it for the lolz without even looting the corpse.

Self-defense or murdering for loot is acceptable but god' date=' if you want to shoot people just for fun, go do it somewhere else.

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you are talking about more then half the players... they just kill because they can...

Unfortunately that is true...

There should be a penalty for murdering someone and then "defiling the corpse" by not going to hide it or something. This would reduce snipers shooting people for the lolz. (My friend got shot in elektro by a sniper who then just server hopped to another server afterwards)

[Arkaeus 17]

Personally I don't understand why people support the idea of senseless murder in this mod. Potentially the best part about this mod is the interaction between players. The suspense and thrill that accompanies meeting another person and trying to decide if he's going to kill you or help you. In it's current state the DayZ mod is broken, everyone is forced to be a bandit and that's a result of a few design choices I don't agree with. People are put into a situation where they are forced to shoot first and ask questions later if they want to preserve their character. If you're the kind of person who thinks this game should be a complete death match then you're playing the wrong game, either that or you have no concept of immersion or role playing.

I hear a lot of people who support random acts of murder using the word realism. Realism? Under what circumstances would a person ever hide 800 meters away and randomly snipe unarmed survivors in the middle of Electro. Aside from the fact that you're killing a stranger who has never wronged you in any way, it's a waste of ammo and you gain absolutely nothing from it.

It sucks, but most gamers these days can't handle a game like this. They don't have the patience or tact to fully enjoy a game like this without ruining it for the rest of us, and so Rocket and his crew are being forced to implement a form of punishment for players like you. A work around for your lack of imagination.

[BicE 0]

Actually, there wern't any design choices that made the game what it is now, it was the players making the choices, creating the rules, and now others follow them too. Maybe youre the one playing the wrong game if you dont like the way it turned out.

Its your lack of imagination not seeing that it would seem realistic for people to go completely insane in a scenario like DayZ.

People getting killed on sight in big cities is what to expect, if you dont want to get shot dont go there.

[Arkaeus 17]

Actually' date=' there wern't any design choices that made the game what it is now, it was the players making the choices, creating the rules, and now others follow them too. Maybe youre the one playing the wrong game if you dont like the way it turned out.

Its your lack of imagination not seeing that it would seem realistic for people to go completely insane in a scenario like DayZ.

People getting killed on sight in big cities is what to expect, if you dont want to get shot dont go there.

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Removal of side chat and removal of bandit skins is what turned this game into a death match. Perhaps you're a new player or you simply don't remember what this game was like a couple of months ago. In reality maybe there would be a few crazy assholes who just shot everything that moved but the majority of people wouldn't respond to an apocalyptic situation like that.

If you want to kill me because you're about to starve to death and I won't share my food with you I understand. If you want to kill me because your brother's leg is broken and I won't give you my ATV to drive him to the hospital by all means kill me, but don't shoot me when my death offers you nothing in return and I have nothing more than a flashlight to defend myself with.

[Waken 5]

the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

There is no Law.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

you are talking about more then half the players... they just kill because they can...

Unfortunately that is true...

323' date='529 living players.

56,609 living bandits.

You both suck at math. Like, big time.

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Removal of side chat and removal of bandit skins is what turned this game into a death match.

Except this game hasn't been turned into a deathmatch. Just this week alone I cooperated with 6 other survivors to establish three base camps in different areas of the map - 4 tents, 2 tractors, 2 motorcycles, land rover, URAL truck, 2 bicycles and a ton of stashed loot later and you know how many times we murdered people or were murdered?

Z-E-R-O.

Stay away from Cherno, Elektro and the NWAF. Play smart and communicate. The game is only a deathmatch if you chose to play it as such. The power is in your hands.

[Delta Smoke 01 765]

As the mod has got older Deathmatching has got bigger. Mainly because of the audience it has brought in. Killing for no reason isnt funny. It doesnt make you a better player. REAL bandits wear camo/guillie and dont kill unarmed players. Those that do are pathetic sons of the mother of all bitches. People like you have ruined this mod. I got 4 of my friends to buy the game and play. They all hate it. There is no time to train them, they just die from ass holes like you. There needs to be a balance between good and bad. Right now bandits have an 80/20% rule of the game. Not because they are good, but because they can hunt anyone. I as a survivor can not. Or i risk murdering a good guy. Sort this shit out so its even or prepeare to lose almost every new player that joins.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

As the mod has got older Deathmatching has got bigger.

Average life expectancy is higher now than when I started in May. So' date=' no.

People like you have ruined this mod.

It's ruined? Seems like plenty of people would disagree with you there.

I got 4 of my friends to buy the game and play. They all hate it.

You have boring friends.

There is no time to train them, they just die from ass holes like you.

Funny, the 5 friends I got into the game all grouped up with me within 24 hours and now help me raid crashed helicopters every day. One has a personal bicycle, two travel on a motorcycle they repaired together and the others ride with me in my Land Rover. Among them they are using an M249 SAW, M107, M4A3 CCO and an L85A2 with thermal scope.

Maybe you're just not a very good trainer or partner?

Try harder.

There needs to be a balance between good and bad.

Then get out there and start striking a balance, jackanapes. Nobody's going to do it for you.

Not because they are good, but because they can hunt anyone. I as a survivor can not.

What?

Or i risk murdering a good guy. Sort this shit out so its even or prepeare to lose almost every new player that joins.

Almost 25% of the TOTAL UNIQUE PLAYERS have played in the last 24 hours.

Do you have any concept of how unprecedented that level of retention is for a game in this state?

You are out of touch with reality, dude. Simply put.

[EnermaX 59]

you are talking about more then half the players... they just kill because they can...

Unfortunately that is true...

323' date='529 living players.

56,609 living bandits.

You both suck at math. Like, big time.

[hr']

Removal of side chat and removal of bandit skins is what turned this game into a death match.

Except this game hasn't been turned into a deathmatch. Just this week alone I cooperated with 6 other survivors to establish three base camps in different areas of the map - 4 tents' date=' 2 tractors, 2 motorcycles, land rover, URAL truck, 2 bicycles and a ton of stashed loot later and you know how many times we murdered people or were murdered?

Z-E-R-O.

Stay away from Cherno, Elektro and the NWAF. Play smart and communicate. The game is only a deathmatch if you chose to play it as such. The power is in your hands.

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Said well you have.

[Arkaeus 17]

As the mod has got older Deathmatching has got bigger.

Average life expectancy is higher now than when I started in May. So, no.

Most of all the statistics on the front page of this website are false. You understand that when people click "respawn" and kill themselves so they can change spawn points that factors into the average life span of a survivor right? Most people respawn spam upwards of 10 to 20 times until they get to where they want to be. There are too many variables that make the statistics charts unreliable so there is really no point in quoting them to win an argument.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Most of all the statistics on the front page of this website are false. You understand that when people click "respawn" and kill themselves so they can change spawn points that factors into the average life span of a survivor right?

No, it actually doesn't.

This has been stated many, many times by the dev team themselves. Short lives are not taken into account.

As for your claim that the other stats are "false," can you provide a citation for that claim?

[Arkaeus 17]

Most of all the statistics on the front page of this website are false. You understand that when people click "respawn" and kill themselves so they can change spawn points that factors into the average life span of a survivor right?

No' date=' it actually doesn't.

This has been stated many, many times by the dev team themselves. Short lives are not taken into account.

As for your claim that the other stats are "false," can you provide a citation for that claim?

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Can you provide a citation for yours?

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Can you provide a citation for yours?

Yes? http://dayzmod.com/? The stats published by the developers? That's my citation.

I mean are you serious with this?

[Arkaeus 17]

Quote:There needs to be a balance between good and bad.

Quote: Then get out there and start striking a balance, jackanapes. Nobody's going to do it for you.

Actually someone is going to do it for him. Argue and insult all you'd like ZedsDeadBaby, Rocket has already stated he's going to implement game changes to reduce the death matching.

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This has been stated many, many times by the dev team themselves.

Short lives are not taken into account. <--- I want a citation for this, moron.

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http://dayzmod.com/ I can randomly link the front page of this website as well. Did I win this argument?

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I think the best part of your "citation" is the fact that the Average Life Expectancy statistic ON THE PAGE YOU LINKED isn't even displaying at the moment. Thanks for proving my point.

[Doc_Wreckshop 18]

well, i agree that people should stop getting upset. IT IS A GAME, and if you die..oh well. start over. or live off the land somewhere, where players dont usually go.

Most of the time my buddies and i play we usually go hunting people for sport.. sometimes looting them, or just leaving their body there and giggle about it. PLUS its fun

DOC OUT

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Short lives are not taken into account. <--- I want a citation for this' date=' moron.

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Here you go.

.

...this average is on all characters alive longer than 2 minutes.

Instant respawns are ignored, as are instant spawn kills.

Most people would thank me for correcting them instead of calling me a moron. It's cool, though. Carry on.

[duddbudda 33]

stats got fucked up by the hacks a couple days ago

and yeah, Rocket said about a half a dozen times during the interview with TB that front-page stats filter out lives that are less than several minutes long

[CrossShade 4]

Short lives are not taken into account. <--- I want a citation for this' date=' moron.

[/quote']

Here you go.

.

...this average is on all characters alive longer than 2 minutes.

Instant respawns are ignored' date=' as are instant spawn kills.

Most people would thank me for correcting them instead of calling me a moron. It's cool, though. Carry on.

[/quote']

As much as I hate this guy and he's a hypocrite at points, even stating wrong information, he's completely correct in this situation, insulting him just lead to you looking like a bigger fool than if you had done it in a civil manner.

[lunchyyy 9]

As the mod has got older Deathmatching has got bigger. Mainly because of the audience it has brought in. Killing for no reason isnt funny. It doesnt make you a better player. REAL bandits wear camo/guillie and dont kill unarmed players. Those that do are pathetic sons of the mother of all bitches. People like you have ruined this mod. I got 4 of my friends to buy the game and play. They all hate it. There is no time to train them' date=' they just die from ass holes like you. There needs to be a balance between good and bad. Right now bandits have an 80/20% rule of the game. Not because they are good, but because they can hunt anyone. I as a survivor can not. Or i risk murdering a good guy. Sort this shit out so its even or prepeare to lose almost every new player that joins.

[/quote']

Unlucky, have a look around for my sympathy where is it?

[tom.dullnig@gmx.net 16]

As much as I disagree with the OP, Zed's got something wrong bigtime. Ever since the bandit skins were removed, average life expectancy has hit the floor. It was well around 4 hours when I joined this mod. Four hours. That is bigger than 30 minutes.

There is an issue at hand and it needs to be solved. Without hurting gameplay that is.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

As much as I disagree with the OP' date=' Zed's got something wrong bigtime. Ever since the bandit skins were removed, average life expectancy has hit the floor. It was well around 4 hours when I joined this mod. Four hours. That is bigger than 30 minutes.

There is an issue at hand and it needs to be solved. Without hurting gameplay that is.

[/quote']

Nope.

The 4 hour figure was always wrong - it was a math mistake on rocket's part.

When he fixed that, it was 40 minutes, then fell down to 28 (before bandit skins were removed).

After the bandit skin was removed it went from 28 minutes up to 32 and then back down to 31.

Today it remains higher than the day before the bandit skins were removed.

You can read all about it in this thread if you don't believe me.