how to prevent loot farmers/raids/camping

[Ballistixz 12]

Randomize loot locations. its that simple really. if loot doesnt spawn in specific and set locations and instead are randomized it will make the game better.

right now there are to many ppl that camp the cities for good loot. same with air field and other popular locations. its fine if certain items like food/drink/maps/etc spawn only in the city or alot of loot spawns in the city, but dont have all the best items spawn there to where its campled endlessly by people.

cities should be a get in and get out place in my humble opinion and the REAL source of loot should be out in the land/forest in random locations/houses/towns/fields. it will give a new meaning to "live off of the land".

animals should be slightly more numerous in forest areas to hunt.

my 2 cents. take it or leave it

[Powell (DayZ) 734]

I'm sure it will make sense to find nothing but firewood in a military camp, and a frag grenade in a house

[tom.dullnig@gmx.net 16]

The logic behind the suggestions isn't actually too far off considering that Chernaurus didn't go down without a fight. The numerous destroyed army vehicles and dead soldiers everywhere testify to that.

However if there's a change then the mechanic needs to be carefully thought through i.e.

More hunting rifles in variations in general, CZs, 30.-.06s, shotguns, etc. in civilian areas with the odd Enfield, Mosing Nagat maybe PPSch-41s and other WW2 remains.

Basic military equipment needs to be more rare but obtainable from destroyed vehicles, dead soldiers and army structures. Given the obvious ferocity of the infection across Chernaurus, very little gear should actually be able to be obtained through fixed military installations. Do you really think in times like these anyone would leave .50 cals, M24s and the likes behind in a lousy barrack to rot for eternity? I don't think so.

Finally, any scoped rifle should only be found at (more rare) helicopter crashes.

Don't get me wrong, I am a bandit by nature and play this for the thrill of PvP but this and a fix for the duping will definately make people with high end gear think twice before trying to hunt newbies at the coast or camp certain towns.

Also, if you can't just run around with a scoped rifle all the time, people will definately think twice before engageing as all of a sudden you need to get close to another player to kill him.

Everything that makes the game more challenging is worth considering IMHO.

[BlessedHeretic 1]

I'm sure it will make sense to find nothing but firewood in a military camp' date=' and a frag grenade in a house

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You'd be surprised at how much i'd expect this very scenario in a real zombie apoc. People would be avoiding military sites after containment failures like the plague, likely after looting it. Houses would be barricaded with loot from ex-military or looters.

Random loot makes alot of sense, that being said, I don't agree with a total randomized system.

The spawn zones work but they need to be more restrictive to hoppers.

People who barricade and hold a loot spawn for themselves should be able to maintain it, if they invest putting themselves in a holed out position like that (Assuming they won't DC or will be punished if they do when under fire.).

I still believe creating new characters for each individual server is the best answer.

[Ballistixz 12]

I'm sure it will make sense to find nothing but firewood in a military camp' date=' and a frag grenade in a house

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please dont russle my jimmies with the "realism"/"Sense" bull crap.

it doesnt make sense for a physical being like a zombie to run throu walls or become a reanimated corpse either. it also doesnt make sense how every single civilian magically knows how to use military grade equipment like sniper rifles, missle launchers, AKs,guns and etc without proper training.

you know what else doesnt make sense? stores magically restocking themselves after being looted despite it being an apocalypse. civilian offices having military grade sniper rifles for w/e reason. eating food magically restores blood. magically being able to give blood transfusions regardless of blood type and regardless of medical experience for that matter. the list goes on.

so dont give me that please, thank you.

[Ballistixz 12]

bumping this cuz i really hate the camping aspect right now. i dont know if this is intended, but the fact that ppl camp and farm the fuck out of air fields and other locations is kinda sad.

[coolboynaked 0]

yeah I agree, this would also help a ton with the whole "have to goto cities to get med supplies on every new character" thing. it's stupid how you can only get morphine from hospitals/military locations and its especially stupid how some weapons can only spawn in 2 specific buildings at the same location.

[i wub pugs 16]

bumping this cuz i really hate the camping aspect right now. i dont know if this is intended' date=' but the fact that ppl camp and farm the fuck out of air fields and other locations is kinda sad.

[/quote']

Killed the mod for me when you couple it with the "oh shit someone found me and started shooting............... ALT F4!!!" response.

Fucking Gucci Gun Grind is the death of this, it's becoming no better than a drawn out COD without perks or XP.

A Makarov kills just as well as a .50. You just have to learn how to use it.

I'd like to see a total strip down of loot spawns, and then randomize it more.

[ParaB 114]

I kinda like that there are "hotspots" for PvP that are based on loot quality, it's just that the current logging-off/server-hopping game abuse severely degrades the core gameplay.

[coolboynaked 0]

bumping this cuz i really hate the camping aspect right now. i dont know if this is intended' date=' but the fact that ppl camp and farm the fuck out of air fields and other locations is kinda sad.

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Killed the mod for me when you couple it with the "oh shit someone found me and started shooting............... ALT F4!!!" response.

Fucking Gucci Gun Grind is the death of this, it's becoming no better than a drawn out COD without perks or XP.

A Makarov kills just as well as a .50. You just have to learn how to use it.

I'd like to see a total strip down of loot spawns, and then randomize it more.

Can a makarov kill from 1km?

[chucklemonkey 3]

please dont russle my jimmies with the "realism"/"Sense" bull crap.

it doesnt make sense for a physical being like a zombie to run throu walls or become a reanimated corpse either. it also doesnt make sense how every single civilian magically knows how to use military grade equipment like sniper rifles, missle launchers, AKs,guns and etc without proper training.

you know what else doesnt make sense? stores magically restocking themselves after being looted despite it being an apocalypse. civilian offices having military grade sniper rifles for w/e reason. eating food magically restores blood. magically being able to give blood transfusions regardless of blood type and regardless of medical experience for that matter. the list goes on.

so dont give me that please, thank you.

Don't forget there are nowhere near as many vehicles as there should be for any area the size of chernarus. Where did all of the cars go?

[allbusiness 5]

Making sniper rifles more rare would dramatically decrease camping on loot spawns.

[seraosha 3]

I think all guns over hunting ribfles ought to be removed, but ymmv.

And no, you cant have my bizon.

[jukaga 271]

I think we need to emphasize civilian weapons as well, but not to exclude all military firearms. Just make them more rare. One equipment beef I have is the current camo outfit with the lame short sleeves, can we PLEASE switch it out for either the Marine pattern or the opfor/Russian camo from arma 2? British summer fatigues just don't fit at all in Chernarus.

[KWilt 157]

It'll never work.

We'll just farm what we can. It's just the time-fill until the next gunfight, really. Hell, we're pretty much decked head to toe in all the quips we need (sans NVGS), so we just do it to do it anymore.

You'll never eliminate farming. Because we'll just farm what we can. Beans or bullets, it won't stop me.