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S3V3N

Rappel or Car-Jack - multiple uses for rope and hooks

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I still wish we had something like car-jacks in the game. While thinking about the need for something that lets you grapple or attach a vehicle to either another vehicle or a pulley, I wondered, why we have no ability to rappel in Dayz. I don't mean the crazy Just Cause-way, but down from Helicopters or buildings, like some people suggested. Then I thought, perhaps the two can be combined. We need something like a tow rope in the future. It sucks turning a car with bow and arrows and it's certainly not the recommended way to do it ;)

So why not make everything modular:

rope/knotted rope, hooks, pulley - perhaps shackles for the helicopter rappel; they could even be different materials and grades.

The next step would be to make them latch on to object edges. Maybe a car could even be pulled off its side by two men pulling the rope. But to get it out of a ditch you'd need to use the pulley and tie it to something (tree, rock, car wreck, fence etc.). Or you would have to use another vehicle by attaching a second hook to the rope, instead of the pulley. 

I would be totally fine for me, if worn rope would break in the process of rappeling, or if the tow line snapped after you pulled out your car. Perhaps it could last a few times, but I wouldn't want these items to become overused. Therefore they must be fairly rare and used in emergencies; there should probably be an alternative to flipping a car - like an actual car-jack or a completely assembled tow rope (that can't be used for anything else, but lasts longer than the improvised one). 

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Here is my attempt of plotting out the different rope/hook combinations (by *knotted rope I mean there is a sling at the end -> perhaps you can learn a few knots from a book or a display):

pulley->knotted rope*->hook - attached to car

or 

attached to car 1<-hook->knotted rope->hook<-attached to car 2

or

player 1, player 2 (pull)->knotted rope->hook_>attached to car

or

player 1 (rappel)-> knotted rope->hook_>attached to building

or

pulley->knotted rope*->hook - attached to player 1

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Dude... Ladders and stairs are already deadly enough in Dayz... Now you want to be dangling from a rope at the top of like the fire station or the apartments? 

I do like the idea though, Could be good if getting chased, unless the animation takes forever.

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10 hours ago, Phuck Norris said:

Dude... Ladders and stairs are already deadly enough in Dayz... Now you want to be dangling from a rope at the top of like the fire station or the apartments? 

I do like the idea though, Could be good if getting chased, unless the animation takes forever.

Though there are only very few moments where I can imagine people being chased over roofs in Dayz, I think that is more the fault of the level design than of the game. It's no Dying Light, but in Dayz we should have cities with better ways to traverse them. There should be more options for vertical gameplay, so we can run around the city on different levels. Usually we can only go on the ground.

So if Dayz added more interesting city maps, this rappeling feature could be good. It might give you an interesting option to escape from either players or zombies. I also thought of it in terms of rock-climbing and hanging camps (at cliff-faces), which would be interesting additions, but probably only a feature that will be modded in. 

All in all, I'm not too sure this feature would be good. It seems to specialized to fit in Dayz, but it was nice to think about having. I do think we could work with a modular towing system though. It would be good to have more than one option to move/flip a car. The one problem I see with towing cars is that quite possibly someone will just tow all the vehicles from the map to his own base. So these tow ropes must bring serious disadvantage, like driving only at slowest speeds. Otherwise people will just keep slinging cars around ^^

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Or it should be limited to one car (must have wheels on it to be towed) and the act of towing should drastically reduce the speed of the lead (read as working) car. Also, when fuel becomes a thing, towing should drain more fuel, like how you overheat with too much gear. It should also be limited to the offroad and the truck, just to make it a bit harder to do. Not only that, but the rope and hook should deteriorate over time. maybe even lasting only a couple KM before breaking. 

As for the rappeling, It would be good for someone in overwatch, or sniping from a rooftop, as a means to get down faster. The rappel only campsites does sound a good idea.... But there really isn't anywhere on the map that can only be reached that way (that I know of). But for such areas to be put in, people will eventually learn the locations of these base areas and find these bases much easier. 

If you are talking about using a rope to attach to a tent then hang the tent from the cliff face that way... It could work, they do something similar on some mountain ranges. But it will probably end up being abused and we will have tents hanging from the side of buildings and other climbable structures. 

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