HOW TO GET STARTED! - DayZ Standalone Guide/Walkthrough

[TheLonelyBandit 17]

Hopefully this will help some of you guys out here get geared safely!

REMEMBER PLEASE, this guide is for NEW players that wish to get geared SAFELY. I usually do not reccommend avoiding players however if people wish to get geared without being killed by some jackass on a hill sniping this guide will teach people how to do that!

[Red_Ensign 990]

I don't kill myself for a better spawn, but I guess I qualify as a roleplayer.

[TheLonelyBandit 17]

I don't kill myself for a better spawn, but I guess I qualify as a roleplayer.

That's good to hear. When I role play I won't kill myself.

I'd wish killing ones self wasn't necessary, or so easy to abuse. But the fact is it is so easy so the majority of people will do it. I find lone wolf players don't do it as much though.

[KenoSkir88 181]

No BeanZ i'm afraid  :emptycan:  Stopped watching when you advised new players to suicide for a better spawn. While it's possible and a lot of folks do it, it sucks balls and is bad for the game. Just my opinion but a new player guide shouldn't include damaging mechanics like that. You should be teaching players to play the game properly in a new players guide. It falls in the same league as advising new players to find a server with 0 people on it and head straight for an officer tent to do the loot cycle. It might be the most efficient way to gear up, but it's very bad form and degrades the quality of game play for everyone, new players included.

[TheLonelyBandit 17]

No BeanZ i'm afraid  :emptycan:  Stopped watching when you advised new players to suicide for a better spawn. While it's possible and a lot of folks do it, it sucks balls and is bad for the game. Just my opinion but a new player guide shouldn't include damaging mechanics like that. You should be teaching players to play the game properly in a new players guide. It falls in the same league as advising new players to find a server with 0 people on it and head straight for an officer tent to do the loot cycle. It might be the most efficient way to gear up, but it's very bad form and degrades the quality of game play for everyone, new players included.

 

So your comparing my guide to scumbags that loot cycle? ok. Good to see you have never watched a DayZ stream or lets play. Cheers for the helpful feedback m10.

[KenoSkir88 181]

So your comparing my guide to scumbags that loot cycle? ok. Good to see you have never watched a DayZ stream or lets play. Cheers for the helpful feedback m10.

 

I only compared the poor advice about cycling spawns to a similar concept about loot cycling. They are both frowned upon mechanics that a lot of people use but that i feel should not be instructed to new players as part of a "new players guide". I watch lets plays and streams all the time, but i sense you're just being silly with the reference. I've enjoyed some of your other videos and have commented positively in accordance so kindly sort the attitude out and accept some constructive criticism on this one.

 

I'd be interested to know why you think loot cycling makes someone a scumbag but spawn cycling is fine.

Edited October 28, 2015 by KenoSkir88

[TheLonelyBandit 17]

I only compared the poor advice about cycling spawns to a similar concept about loot cycling. They are both frowned upon mechanics that a lot of people use but that i feel should not be instructed to new players as part of a "new players guide". I watch lets plays and streams all the time, but i sense you're just being silly with the reference. I've enjoyed some of your other videos and have commented positively in accordance so kindly sort the attitude out and accept some constructive criticism on this one.

 

I'd be interested to know why you think loot cycling makes someone a scumbag but spawn cycling is fine.

No I am not being "silly". The majority of streamers and youtubers that show complete play throughs do kill themselves for a better spawn (eg Mr.Blackout & M1ndr I've personally seen do so). Killing yourself for a "better" spawn is not abusing a game mechanic or 'breaking' the game as you claim. The game lacks a spawn selector, of which there is no reason to not have one as the DayZ Mod has it and it works perfectly fine. My guide offers a temporary solution until one is put in the game.

Whereas forcing loot to constantly respawn not only breaks the loot system of a server, but ultimately leads to massive stability issues and performance issues. I've seen entire server communities destroyed by loot cyclers that took it to the extreme.

But who suffers for somebody killing themselves? Nobody. It has zero affect on other players, the bodies will despawn within 15 minutes (roughly) hence the server receives zero negative impact. The only possible way for it to be negative is in a role play scenario as it clearly breaks the immersion somewhat. Which is up to the individual player hence none of mine or your business.

That is why spawn cyclers are scumbags. They break the game. Wheras killing yourself for a different spawn is just part of the game. It is not a glitch in the slightest possible way.

All in all, there is zero physical impact made by suiciding upon the server or the community. The only reason there is any issue at all is that you're not happy people aren't playing the way that YOU consider to be 'proper'. This is YOUR problem. Not a problem of the community, nor of the developers (after all they are the only ones that can change anything). I am  very open to any ----constructive criticism----.

However comparing my advice to that of nothing more then a idiot that destroys the community (such as a glitcher/loot cycler) is not constructive. It is blatant disrespect and nothing but a poor attempt at making my production look bad. Having your own personal rule set and playstyle is absolutely fine. I don't care. But when you try to enforce it on others by being so incredibly rude and arrogant by shining my guide in a ( incredibly overlyexaggerated) negative light. That is when I will get a 'attitude', and rightly tell you to move on as I am not looking for flamers in my youtube comments. 

I have said what I wanted to say, explained everything you have attempted to argue for quite simply, in the end all it comes down to is that you dislike people having a different "moral" rule set and overall play style as your own. That is your problem, not mine nor anyone elses in this community. If you wan't people to play a certain way, make a thread about about it. 

I am done with this discussion, please refrain from commenting on my videos in the future as I simply don't need any toxicity on my channel. Thank you.

[KenoSkir88 181]

1) I was polite and made it clear it was only my opinion in the first post.

 

2) I didn't comment on your YouTube account, i commented on the public forum for the game which is what it's for.

 

3) The developers did not include a spawn selector and have made it clear this was deliberate. One reason is to add a sense of worth to a character by preventing someone from suicide cycling to get straight back to their gear when they are killed. Another reason is to help spread population around the map rather than suicide kiddies cycling spawns to get to the best looting/pvp zones instantly. It clearly effects the game (as is extremely apparent by the huge dead areas of the map) in more ways than perhaps you were aware.

 

4) I only stated (again clearly stating it was my opinion) that i don't think this should be included in a "new player's guide", hence why this has absolutely 0 relevance to a standard stream or Lets Play.

 

5) This is not your channel and thus you do not have the power to moderate out all the negative comments. By posting on a public game forum you openly invite the opinion of others, and i fail to see why you feel you should have the same control here as on your YouTube channel.

 

It would seem the "toxicity" you describe is more based on your inability to handle criticism than anything I've said that is incorrect. I would have no issue with it in a Lets Play or a Stream since they are not targeted specifically at new player induction. Why did you post it here if not to receive the opinions of other users?