ACH spawns

[Luftpancake 94]

Hello, I think that it would be great if the new American ACH helmet spawned at American helicopter crash sites. It's like a ballistic helmet, but better in protection. It can take a SKS shot, or several. It would be rare at american crash sites, since not all soldiers wear these. Here's a video demonstrating it - http://www.geek.com/news/advanced-combat-helmet-stops-an-ak-47-head-shot-1536798/ While you can argue that this is pointless, Day-z is a simulator. This would be realistic to American crash sites since U.S troops are now wearing these. I think this would make the game more immersive.

Edited August 13, 2015 by BillNyeTheRussianSpy

[Senodog 96]

Its the same as the ballistic helmet both are made the same way. simple nuff no need for this to be in game  

[Luftpancake 94]

Its the same as the ballistic helmet both are made the same way. simple nuff no need for this to be in game  

Well you could say that, but it's a higher level of protection from bullets and flak. It's lighter and covers more of the head. I don't see any harm in adding this. This game also strides for realism, If it's a American helmet, and troops are wearing it now, It would not make sense to not have it. Anyway, i respect your opinion, i just disagree with it.

Edited August 13, 2015 by BillNyeTheRussianSpy

[Senodog 96]

Well you could say that, but it's a higher level of protection from bullets and flak. It's lighter and covers more of the head. I don't see any harm in adding this.

Hmm you make a point but then again knowing this game it would just be the same as the ballistic helmet

[Luftpancake 94]

Hmm you make a point but then again knowing this game it would just be the same as the ballistic helmet

Yes, you are right. But we can hope that the devs change it, right?

[Senodog 96]

Yes, you are right. But we can hope that the devs change it, right?

yeah I will put my vote maybe now

[Luftpancake 94]

yeah I will put my vote maybe now

Thank you for changing your mind, and for giving me a reason for disliking! :)

[OnionOfShame 138]

I'd say no to this, because as was previously said, it's the same as the Ballistic Helmet. Even the appearance is almost identical. The ballistic Helmet in-game is intended to represent all helmets of that type, not one specific model, like how the Gorka Helmet is meant to represent all helmets of that general design. Yes, I suppose you could argue that this would be viable as an "upgrade" to the Ballistic Helmet (like finding a jacket with more slots), but in my opinion this would he imbalanced and will likely not be added to the game. The Ballistic Helmet can already take any round except for the 7.62x54mmR (it might actually be able to now with the recent reduction to bullet damage). Anything more than that would be excessive/overpowered in my opinion. It's the same way with the Plate Carrier. A ballistic vest of that type in real life can take multiple 5.56x45mm rounds without breaking or causing damage to the wearer (except force/staggering, of course), and may be ablessed to take a 7.62x54mmR round, depending on the model. While having the item retain these characteristics in-game would be realistic it would also be quite overpowered, and things like this do not really belong in a game like DayZ in my opinion.

[Luftpancake 94]

I'd say no to this, because as was previously said, it's the same as the Ballistic Helmet. Even the appearance is almost identical. The ballistic Helmet in-game is intended to represent all helmets of that type, not one specific model, like how the Gorka Helmet is meant to represent all helmets of that general design. Yes, I suppose you could argue that this would be viable as an "upgrade" to the Ballistic Helmet (like finding a jacket with more slots), but in my opinion this would he imbalanced and will likely not be added to the game. The Ballistic Helmet can already take any round except for the 7.62x54mmR (it might actually be able to now with the recent reduction to bullet damage). Anything more than that would be excessive/overpowered in my opinion. It's the same way with the Plate Carrier. A ballistic vest of that type in real life can take multiple 5.56x45mm rounds without breaking or causing damage to the wearer (except force/staggering, of course), and may be ablessed to take a 7.62x54mmR round, depending on the model. While having the item retain these characteristics in-game would be realistic it would also be quite overpowered, and things like this do not really belong in a game like DayZ in my opinion.

I see where you're coming from, but this is not a "game" per say. It's a simulator, most people don't get that. While things may be "overpowered" they stick to realism. Day-z is all about realism. Meaning plate carriers should take more than pistol rounds. Helmets need to be fixed because i saw one dude get killed by a 357. head shot to a ballistic helmet medium range yesterday. Also fists magically ruin helmets and clothing too now, trust me, i tested it with a friend. Like i said a few posts back I don't think it will kill anybody if this helmet gets added. Hell, if it makes people happier just make the damn ACH rare. Gorka Es' are pretty under-powered too. I got shot in the head with a 22. and it went to badly damaged from pristine last week. Bottom line, things will be overpowered, but It will fit in with realism, further pushing the immersive type feeling Day-z is supposed to give off. I respect your opinion, I just disagree with it.

Edited August 13, 2015 by BillNyeTheRussianSpy

[Luftpancake 94]

Also a press vest, a civilian grade kevlar vest protects against more than a ballistic vest. I think those stats need to be switched, like the press vest protects against pistol rounds and a plate carrier protects against every caliber once or twice, like the current press vest does.

Edited August 13, 2015 by BillNyeTheRussianSpy

[BeefBacon 1185]

Also a press vest, a civilian grade kevlar vest protects against more than a ballistic vest. I think those stats need to be switched, like the press vest protects against pistol rounds and a plate carrier protects against every caliber once or twice, like the current press vest does.

 

The plate carrier doesn't currently provide any protection. You'd think they'd at least give it a placeholder protection value or something, but no matter.

 

I'd be fine with some fancy new helmet. The more gear and stuff the merrier. If it can reliably stop some kind of powerful round then it should be rare - so crash sites make a sensible spawn location. 

[Mullraugh 1151]

Never mind about the helmet - who taught this guy to hold a rifle?

 

Edited August 14, 2015 by mullraugh

[Luftpancake 94]

The plate carrier doesn't currently provide any protection. You'd think they'd at least give it a placeholder protection value or something, but no matter.

 

I'd be fine with some fancy new helmet. The more gear and stuff the merrier. If it can reliably stop some kind of powerful round then it should be rare - so crash sites make a sensible spawn location. 

 I know, like i said i thought that the stats need to be switched. But what the fuck? It doesn't even protect against 22.? Christ, why don't they just put the press vest script inside of the plate carrier? Is it too much to bother?

Edited August 14, 2015 by BillNyeTheRussianSpy

[thefriendlydutchman 160]

nah I think we already have to much military stuff and military stuff is way to OP atm but still good idea for like beta when the more important matters are finished

[pale1776 375]

Its the same as the ballistic helmet both are made the same way. simple nuff no need for this to be in game

Actually both are different, I'm just not gonna bore the forums with my knowledge.

But that's like saying "Oh, we already have an M4 and it does the same job as the other assault rifles, lets just not add anymore assault rifles"

[cash81 506]

It would be nice to have a cammo helmet regardless of if it is this type or just make the ballistic one come in cammo. :)

[pale1776 375]

Never mind about the helmet - who taught this guy to hold a rifle?

Actually, its pretty common to hold a rifle like that when wearing a vest. Trust me, its uncomfortable af to hold a rifle in the nook of your shoulder while wearing a vest. The 5.56 has really no kick, so putting it above your shoulder really doesn't affect that. Plus he's surveying through the sight, why take the time to get comfy when your doing a quick survey lol.

-Not Military yet, but I do run in the gear I've bought for conditioning and can vouch why its held like that

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Never mind about the helmet - who taught this guy to hold a rifle?

Actually, its pretty common to hold a rifle like that when wearing a vest. Trust me, its uncomfortable af to hold a rifle in the nook of your shoulder while wearing a vest. The 5.56 has really no kick, so putting it above your shoulder really doesn't affect that. Plus he's surveying through the sight, why take the time to get comfy when your doing a quick survey lol.

-Not Military yet, but I do run in the gear I've bought for conditioning and can vouch why its held like that

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[Luftpancake 94]

nah I think we already have to much military stuff and military stuff is way to OP atm but still good idea for like beta when the more important matters are finished

Way too OP? What in the hell are you talking about, boy? The only goddamn thing that protects you from bullets in this game is a gorka helmet and a ballastic helmet and a press vest. THE PRESS VEST ISN'T EVEN MILITARY FOR FUCK SAKES. If you ask me it's under powered! Besides alpha is for adding things, beta is for fixing things. The devs have clearly stated that several times.

[Mullraugh 1151]

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You'd get jacked the fuck up for holding a rifle like that in the Canadian forces.

[Luftpancake 94]

You'd get jacked the fuck up for holding a rifle like that in the Canadian forces.

Fella's that's a bit off topic.