icomrade 201 Posted July 3, 2012 Not to worry' date=' the battleye bypass bypasses script logging, not battleye reporting, their CD keys are being banned.[/quote']that i really dont understand fully. can u make precise explaination ?greetzkabsWe'll first off, the bypass doesn't work on newer versions of the beta, this is the reason to force players to have the latest beta.Second, battleye does 2 things, one is to monitor scripts executed, the second is to monitor applications running. Since the bypass is detected (I'm not sure how detection is done exactly) people using the bypass will have their CD keys banned within 48 hours.Third, all scripts executed (server-side and client-side) are logged in scripts.log, permitting the server admin has setup the scripts.txt correctly. Essentially the bypass doesn't bypass battleye itself, it only bypasses script detection/logging, hackers will not get banned for using a script but a known hack.ahh ok thanx. yeah that what i most also found out. but i didnt know that if you have the latest beta patch that it would do so much on its own. i consider that there is still some setup things that will be needed through ?so you know about the BEC tool ? is it still helpful with that latest beta patch or doesnt it ?maybe u know something else that could be needful ? like updating some battle things for the server maintaince ?what do you think about this forum section idea ?thnx in advancekabsbattleye will update automatically. BEC is great for thing like scheduling a restart, extended logging, auto kick for invalid name or profanity, and extra in-game commands. Although I'll admit i don't use the commands that much, it's well worth setting it up though.Yes BEC works with latest beta (94444). No, I wouldn't just simply ban out of suspicion, although I have banned people that were grouped up with a hacker that was spawning weapon crates.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kabs 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Not to worry' date=' the battleye bypass bypasses script logging, not battleye reporting, their CD keys are being banned.[/quote']that i really dont understand fully. can u make precise explaination ?greetzkabsWe'll first off, the bypass doesn't work on newer versions of the beta, this is the reason to force players to have the latest beta.Second, battleye does 2 things, one is to monitor scripts executed, the second is to monitor applications running. Since the bypass is detected (I'm not sure how detection is done exactly) people using the bypass will have their CD keys banned within 48 hours.Third, all scripts executed (server-side and client-side) are logged in scripts.log, permitting the server admin has setup the scripts.txt correctly. Essentially the bypass doesn't bypass battleye itself, it only bypasses script detection/logging, hackers will not get banned for using a script but a known hack.ahh ok thanx. yeah that what i most also found out. but i didnt know that if you have the latest beta patch that it would do so much on its own. i consider that there is still some setup things that will be needed through ?so you know about the BEC tool ? is it still helpful with that latest beta patch or doesnt it ?maybe u know something else that could be needful ? like updating some battle things for the server maintaince ?what do you think about this forum section idea ?thnx in advancekabsbattleye will update automatically. BEC is great for thing like scheduling a restart, extended logging, auto kick for invalid name or profanity, and extra in-game commands. Although I'll admit i don't use the commands that much, it's well worth setting it up though.Yes BEC works with latest beta (94444). No, I wouldn't just simply ban out of suspicion, although I have banned people that were grouped up with a hacker that was spawning weapon crates..thnx alot mate !one question still standing out :P forum section for proactive help against hacking ? your opinion ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icomrade 201 Posted July 3, 2012 thnx alot mate !one question still standing out :P forum section for proactive help against hacking ? your opinion ?I'm not really sure what to think of it, the best way to get hackers added to the distributed bans.txt would be to contact a dev on IRC/live chat. Cheat reports here don't do much, and most of the helpful threads get pushed under people complaining about admin abuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kabs 0 Posted July 3, 2012 thnx alot mate !one question still standing out :P forum section for proactive help against hacking ? your opinion ?I'm not really sure what to think of it' date=' the best way to get hackers added to the distributed bans.txt would be to contact a dev on IRC/live chat. Cheat reports here don't do much, and most of the helpful threads get pushed under people complaining about admin abuse.[/quote']na the forum section i mentioned wouldnt be needed for reporting hackers.it should be a place where any new admin have a tutorial for setting up save server. and also a place where players can share about how they going against new hacks the best.just like thoose hacker sites where they discuss about how to fuck us here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DayZxxxxxx 2 Posted July 3, 2012 I guess you didnt read the part where they are able to execute scripts from other players and getting them banned..............your logs mean nothing your banning the wrong people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRUCKER (DayZ) 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Kill the player (so the items get lost in case he took it from a hacker), log his IP, Steam ID, CDkey hash (if available?): Beg to the dev to add a global banning system (optional selection for server hosters) and ban him there forever if you actually caught him hacking (like this guy with insane amount of items).If he is only carrying hacked items but not actually spawning ban him for a week-a monththoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarissofoi 40 Posted July 3, 2012 Keep the good work.hackers and cheaters tear DayZ appart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urbanfox 116 Posted July 3, 2012 I guess you didnt read the part where they are able to execute scripts from other players and getting them banned..............your logs mean nothing your banning the wrong people.Actually, server admins who actively protect their server already closed that hole ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icomrade 201 Posted July 3, 2012 I guess you didnt read the part where they are able to execute scripts from other players and getting them banned..............your logs mean nothing your banning the wrong people.Sorry, WTFAU? I've not once banned the wrong person, although I doubt you have any experience maintaining a server. Not my problem, that script is blocked on my server.In my ideology carry a hacked weapon, unless you spawned it in, is not bannable. Besides, how is every player supposed to keep track of what guns are legit and which are not? They could have got it from anyone they killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butternut 5 Posted July 3, 2012 I don't care to read this whole thread and that could turn people off this post but heres what you should do.be a fucking admin ban kick do what you have to do deal with the shit that come after. If the hacker thinks he can just post on the forums about it and get his way fuck him don't talk to him don't post just ignore him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urbanfox 116 Posted July 3, 2012 Oh, and FYI, unless you have a managed server, your BattlEye files will NOT be updated automatically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kabs 0 Posted July 5, 2012 Oh' date=' and FYI, unless you have a managed server, your BattlEye files will NOT be updated automatically.[/quote']how do you define a managed server ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 5, 2012 Oh' date=' and FYI, unless you have a managed server, your BattlEye files will NOT be updated automatically.[/quote']how do you define a managed server ?Managed means you don't have access to the physical box. Usually just some Control Panel. In most cases you have someone else managing the server and file versions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rajkosto 1 Posted July 5, 2012 That's wrong.BE server dlls update automatically from the master server while your server is running. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganjastar 53 Posted July 5, 2012 Sorry' date=' WTFAU? I've not once banned the wrong person, although I doubt you have any experience maintaining a server. Not my problem, that script is blocked on my server.[/quote']you make it sound like your server is hack free, but I was killed on your server less then a week ago by the teleport in the air hack.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kabs 0 Posted July 6, 2012 Oh' date=' and FYI, unless you have a managed server, your BattlEye files will NOT be updated automatically.[/quote']how do you define a managed server ?Managed means you don't have access to the physical box. Usually just some Control Panel. In most cases you have someone else managing the server and file versions.just wondering if he means something else cauz you everytime have to care about battle eye and 3 party script checks etc.its the first rule i learned when i saw in this forums there is no directly help to maintain your server against hacking...same is if youre asking battle eye´s staff about wich scripts you should have blocked/shown up... they can only say to search for yourself ^^really wondering why here is not such a forum section with much more help for that here. thats dull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polli 57 Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Hi allI also want to have this section for securing our servers and help the admins agains ppl that want to ruin this fantastic game.Yesterday there was a player connecting to my server the first time. A few minutes later he fly around with a helicopter. I stopped the server after someone found a helicopter and got killed by the helicopter explodes as he comes closer. But the helicopter looked like he was also explode before. I had nametags on so i know the name of the "pilot". I looked into my logs and found noting that shows me a script or something like that.I havent made screenshots becouse i dont have steam active ingame. And Fraps was not running. In the end i have done nothing against this player, cause i found nothing that shows me he is a hacker.Since this happens i check my script.log every day and it cost me a couple of hours to find nothing.Please help us admins to detect scripts easier.Thanks in advancePolliPS: Sorry for my bad english. Edited July 19, 2012 by Polli Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zyfer.nyholm@gmail.com 131 Posted July 19, 2012 yeah, its hard for me to believe that the devs didnt gear themselfs for these issues by accident, somehow it feels like they might even encourage hackers more but im not sure what to believe, it could ofcourse be because its damn hard to spot hackers or something, but then try and develop something, and maybe let us know what is possible and what isnt, and then the community could deside an option that is possible to implement, why hasnt this been done? right now i would say screw the bugs.i dont care about dying to bugs as much as i care dying to a hacker, bugs are a main part of a game, because its beta, hackers arent. but i believe in the dev team, i have my suspicions but will not judge as i have no proof, and wouldnt really agree with myself that anyone would make a mod to encourage hackers but that is the view you get from what is going on, thats the picture and most people will pick it up and start judging the dev team, so please rocket or someone, post something about you doing something about this to just let us know whats going on, dont be so silent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites