Bravo-Two-Zero 57 Posted July 2, 2012 Name: JenekGUID: e00a442943478d7bd4398ba46a9c9aeeServer: NL 4 (our own SoH server)Time: 7/2/2012 14:00 hrs (GMT+1)Catched a cheater teleporting, respawning with custom full gear and propably aimbot. He was already under suspicion, as we found G36 ammo on his body earlier, see earlier thread here: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=21671&highlight=JenekOf course he is already on the black list on our own server, I'm only here to enable the Dayz team to ban this guy from the Hive as well and thereby all Dayz servers. The story (with Full HD video)While driving from Cherno to Elektro we saw a fireball in the distance from an exploding car. When we came closer, we saw a guy next to it looking over a body. The movie tells the remaining story from the moment we saw him and killed him. Fact story:-I started with 6 kills, and still had 6 kills after I killed Jenek (no kill given). -I killed Jenek, but Jenek respawns with his full gear again next to it-Jenek seems to be able to hit a guy with one shot from a sniper rifle on a moving car which was actually even turning when he shot. This is extremely difficult as experienced snipers may known (aimbot).-Jenek is able to run a distance of several hundred meters almost as fast as our own car. It should have taken him 30 to 40 seconds, but he is much sooner at our place. -Jenek kills us both with 1 shot (aimbot)-Jenek gets killed by Berry, while I spawn close to the place were everything happened. So I run again, and while I run I notice a fire fight between again Jenek and another player Berry, Berry was killed. -Once I get to the area, Jenek drives away and didnt loot our bodies. Lots of CZ 550 rifles around, which Jenek also seems to use frequently. -I hide on mountain, team mate keeps area covered and suddenly Jenek is next to my team mate.-I see Jenek as well, and see him teleporting within my weapon sights. Moments later I get killed by an unknown guy from behind with a SD weapon...Also we know that Jenek plays with some friends sometimes, so it might have been a friend of his who killed me on the hill with a SD weapon. Jenek saw some movement on the hill so I went behind a rock, my clan mate just reported seconds after that he lost the guy next to him (teleported away) while I kept visual contact on Jenek, and I got killed from behind. [off-topic]I really hope one day the Dayz team and Bohemia Interactive will find an effective strategy of dealing with hackers. Please don't tell me the current measures in place are adequate, because they are simple not. In this case and also in my previous death two weeks ago (also by a hacker) you can search all possible logs (both Dayz Hive and local server logs) like we also did two weeks ago, but bottom line is there is absolutely nothing to find although players know for 99,99% sure a specific player is hacking like in this video. The current security is absolutely laughable, despite all hard attempts and efforts put into it and I surely hope not Arma 3 is going to suffer as much from hackers as Arma 2 has in the past years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flicshot 12 Posted July 2, 2012 looks to me like you got plenty of evidence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iogc_broadsword 33 Posted July 2, 2012 Pretty conclusive did you pull the RPT and Battleye script logs and search for his name? that way you will get his Guid, Pid and IP. Post it up here and get the fucker banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kabs 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Pretty conclusive did you pull the RPT and Battleye script logs and search for his name? that way you will get his Guid' date=' Pid and IP. Post it up here and get the fucker banned.[/quote']how to do so and pull thoose out of the script logs `? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cesar2224 2 Posted July 3, 2012 Pretty conclusive did you pull the RPT and Battleye script logs and search for his name? that way you will get his Guid' date=' Pid and IP. Post it up here and get the fucker banned.[/quote']Logs don't do anything anymore since hackers can now delete and modify the logs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kabs 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Pretty conclusive did you pull the RPT and Battleye script logs and search for his name? that way you will get his Guid' date=' Pid and IP. Post it up here and get the fucker banned.[/quote']Logs don't do anything anymore since hackers can now delete and modify the logs.nize.... hail to battle eye -.- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitta 31 Posted July 3, 2012 Pretty conclusive did you pull the RPT and Battleye script logs and search for his name? that way you will get his Guid' date=' Pid and IP. Post it up here and get the fucker banned.[/quote']As seen on the other thread (in-case you didn't look at it ;) )''Name: Jenek GUID: e00a442943478d7bd4398ba46a9c9aee'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bravo-Two-Zero 57 Posted July 3, 2012 You're right, should have mentioned it here just as well to avoid work for other people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kabs 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Pretty conclusive did you pull the RPT and Battleye script logs and search for his name? that way you will get his Guid' date=' Pid and IP. Post it up here and get the fucker banned.[/quote']As seen on the other thread (in-case you didn't look at it ;) )''Name: Jenek GUID: e00a442943478d7bd4398ba46a9c9aee''so ok you can pull the guid but can u tell me how ? thanx in advancekabsbtw: well just in hope its a guy wich doenst know how to delete the logs or somth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 55 Posted July 3, 2012 Pretty conclusive did you pull the RPT and Battleye script logs and search for his name? that way you will get his Guid' date=' Pid and IP. Post it up here and get the fucker banned.[/quote']Logs don't do anything anymore since hackers can now delete and modify the logs.nize.... hail to battle eye -.-At least it isn't Punkbuster. It's never done anything but provide a false sense of protection and kick legit players left and right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kabs 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Pretty conclusive did you pull the RPT and Battleye script logs and search for his name? that way you will get his Guid' date=' Pid and IP. Post it up here and get the fucker banned.[/quote']Logs don't do anything anymore since hackers can now delete and modify the logs.nize.... hail to battle eye -.-At least it isn't Punkbuster. It's never done anything but provide a false sense of protection and kick legit players left and right.yeah well the problem is that battle eye seems to ban users manually in any way....but first problem: if they can modify/delte script logs where does battle eye know who theyre banning right or not ?second problem is that thoose hackers can run their scripts as other players like u and then you may have the ban.....so yeah thats really fail and neither we as players or the admins know how to handle this...thats some sort of mass hysteric....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitta 31 Posted July 3, 2012 Pretty conclusive did you pull the RPT and Battleye script logs and search for his name? that way you will get his Guid' date=' Pid and IP. Post it up here and get the fucker banned.[/quote']As seen on the other thread (in-case you didn't look at it ;) )''Name: Jenek GUID: e00a442943478d7bd4398ba46a9c9aee''so ok you can pull the guid but can u tell me how ? thanx in advancekabsbtw: well just in hope its a guy wich doenst know how to delete the logs or somth.I ain't an admin, I have no idea how ArmA servers work.I'm just a friendly helper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kabs 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Pretty conclusive did you pull the RPT and Battleye script logs and search for his name? that way you will get his Guid' date=' Pid and IP. Post it up here and get the fucker banned.[/quote']As seen on the other thread (in-case you didn't look at it ;) )''Name: Jenek GUID: e00a442943478d7bd4398ba46a9c9aee''so ok you can pull the guid but can u tell me how ? thanx in advancekabsbtw: well just in hope its a guy wich doenst know how to delete the logs or somth.I ain't an admin, I have no idea how ArmA servers work.I'm just a friendly helper.ahh ok i see you have his guid from another thread simply :)yeah well my clan members waiting for our server the get admit. So i try to get some more information about how to stop hacking in advance.thanks anyway ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bravo-Two-Zero 57 Posted July 4, 2012 Just a tip from me then: enable crosshairs and thereby name spotting. Yes, it's extremely lame to be able to search for name tags in a 360 and spot persons from more than 1.5 clicks, but at least you will see the names of people who disconnect and also of cheaters. We've catched about 9 disconnectors now and 2 hackers. It's also important to run around with fraps and as soon as you see any player hit the button to start recording. If it turns out into nothing, I just delete it, but you will be surprised how many people you can bust with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plaguez 0 Posted July 4, 2012 I've been injured/killed by multiple hackers, on multiple servers today. Lost my end-game gear, and when i had some new gear, i lost it in a split/second to a hacker.This is really getting out of hand at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlessedHeretic 1 Posted July 5, 2012 Pretty sure the guy dc'd before he died. The disconnect animation feigns a death followed by a sink into the ground, unless you see "HAS BEEN KILLED" right after shooting, it's highly unlikely that you killed themBut the other things seem legit and good on ya for catching it during the video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bravo-Two-Zero 57 Posted July 5, 2012 Could you next time please either read the story or watch the video before commenting? There is nothing wrong with trying to help, but unfortunately you're simply a mile off although you claim to be pretty certain about it. Watch the first 5 seconds of the video and see for yourself in the bottom left corner:"Jenek killed by [soH]Bravo Two Zero (friendly fire)". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psyl3nt 125 Posted July 5, 2012 Unfortunately there is nothing anyone can do to completly stop hackers. I often wonder about the legality of them selling the hacks, would they not have to reverse engineer parts of the game in order to discover how to acomplish the hack ? And isn't reverse engineering a game illegal ? And yet there are hundreds of sites around where you can make a $20 "donation" and be given the hacks for whatever game it is you want. I'd like to see some method of shutting down the scum who are selling these hacks, once you have eliminated that element it makes the hacking much less prevalent. I've personally never tried to create any type of hack / trainer etc, so I am a little naive as to their methods of creating them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlessedHeretic 1 Posted July 5, 2012 Could you next time please either read the story or watch the video before commenting? There is nothing wrong with trying to help' date=' but unfortunately you're simply a mile off although you claim to be pretty certain about it. Watch the first 5 seconds of the video and see for yourself in the bottom left corner:"Jenek killed by [soH']Bravo Two Zero (friendly fire)". I just noticed, my bad. But I honestly hope some good retribution comes to this bastard. If I notice any of you guys in a server I play on i'll try to leave some supplies in the form of minor armaments if possible, no one's game should be ruined quite as horribly as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psyl3nt 125 Posted July 5, 2012 As a server admin do you have access to their IP address ? (should do), (deleted) inappropriate for forum. __________________________________But yea, they are a constant problem in basically all online games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bravo-Two-Zero 57 Posted July 5, 2012 If we wanted to we could have looked it up, but IP addresses tend to be unreliable. The stupidest thing for a hacker would be not to use a dynamic IP or rather even a proxy. Just GUID should work well enough for Arma (although GUID could also be modified in the past, perhaps now again as well). And then, even if he had a fixed IP I'm still not sure if sharing that address would be a good idea :P.@Psyl3nt Might be more complicated. It's not restricted to look at a game's code or even reverse engineering a game to understand it. As long as you don't violate the user agreement and especially the copyright protection. Just like a game mod (like Dayz) hacks will alter certain game files and I don't think mods are illegal. But then again, I'm not a specialist in international law concerning games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psyl3nt 125 Posted July 5, 2012 Hmm yea I had a sneaky suspicion it might be something like that, must be only things like microsoft where reverse engineering can land you in court. Shame... I'd love to see some kind of real world consequences for using / selling hacks. (I know it says "donation" on those sites, but everyone knows no donation no hack, so I look at it as a bought and paid for service.)Dynamic Ip makes it hard, I wouldn't imagine to many of the game cheats (hackers) would bother bouncing to hide their IP, most are not that smart as they only download and use the hacks / scripts. It's just a legal tightrope as far as using that information for 'something'. *sigh. Can't win really, any which way you go that isn't just an in game ban puts you on the wrong side of the law. Something to think about is that in COD we had some hackers recorded on our servers, we collected their GUID's, and posted logs / video / GUID (steam) etc to the BlackOps official forums, and they did have their entire blackops account banned across all servers. So there is something there that may be a possibility, perhaps BIS could look at the same thing and add them to a BE ban list or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites