gizm0 96 Posted July 1, 2012 In situations like that' date=' disconnect and find a different server. Don't bother with feeding the trolls.[/quote']you are the people ruining the immersion of the game , not the bandits.Atleast bandits follow the rules.Bullshit. There are no rules other than the game mechanics. Why would anyone care for some pseudo-ethics that griefers make up?If you wanna stop playing a videogame, you do so. Anyone who seriously has a problem with that should get a grip on reality.People aren't griefers just because they don't play the game the way you want them to. Stop being such a fucking carebear.There's a reason that term is thrown around so much on these forums.There are so many carebears it's ridiculous. How you could play a game where you are EXPECTED to die at some point and then complain when it happens in a fashion you didn't want?You guys won't be happy until players can't kill each other at all, and then people will find other ways of doing it(not that they haven't already; hello tin can! Hello horde of zombies investigating tin can!).No I'll be happy once the kill or be killed mentality is in the minority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M@rshall 3 Posted July 1, 2012 Dayz is not about killing every mother fucker that is what cod is for you fucking ass clown.Correction, DayZ is all about killing EVERY god damned mother fucker that you see, without fail. What's so hard to get about that?A zombie was mentioned at some point too, but I don't know about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gizm0 96 Posted July 1, 2012 Dayz is not about killing every mother fucker that is what cod is for you fucking ass clown.Correction' date=' DayZ is all about killing [b']EVERY god damned mother fucker that you see, without fail. What's so hard to get about that?A zombie was mentioned at some point too, but I don't know about that.Whats so hard to get about that is that I am not playing dayz to kill other players, i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to set up a safe zone for players, who aren't cunts on my server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jOB (DayZ) 0 Posted July 1, 2012 A sandbox game can't really be played right or wrong. Both sides of the fence who can't comprehend the others playstyle and ridicule it are narrow minded asshats in my opinion.It was (is) the same in Eve-online where all the carebears would say that the pirates were sociopaths irl ans the pirates would say that the carebears would play the game wrong.No, bandits are not insane irl – believing so is so outlandish that it speaks more about you and your world view than the bandits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuggo 25 Posted July 1, 2012 Its nice to see the sport of kneecapping catching on. Perhaps another charity event organized around it would be fun. The possibilities are intriguing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 1, 2012 Dayz is not about killing every mother fucker that is what cod is for you fucking ass clown.Correction' date=' DayZ is all about killing [b']EVERY god damned mother fucker that you see, without fail. What's so hard to get about that?A zombie was mentioned at some point too, but I don't know about that.Whats so hard to get about that is that I am not playing dayz to kill other players, i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to set up a safe zone for players, who aren't cunts on my server.Play singleplayer/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djkling 5 Posted July 1, 2012 If this is supposed to be a simulator (anti-game) then you have to take into account the psychological consequences for killing another human when you are alone and unlikely to find another person in the world. In a REAL situation, people would be banding together. Some to form raiding parties, others to survive (and try to not be raided!). I dont mind the bandit mechanic, but the "lone wolf" attitude. I think there should be a penalty for prolonged lonliness and also for killing another human. Maybe a new bandit mechanic can get to the point that bandits suffer a penalty for NOT killing, and non bandits suffer a penalty for killing (even in defense). I think the game is missing a HUGE social aspect that could open up a new world of player dynamics and interactions. There is "griefing" (if you can call it that, though I dont see it) but remember that eventually when this is finished there will be consequences. With some background in psychology,I think what I said is most accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gizm0 96 Posted July 1, 2012 Dayz is not about killing every mother fucker that is what cod is for you fucking ass clown.Correction' date=' DayZ is all about killing [b']EVERY god damned mother fucker that you see, without fail. What's so hard to get about that?A zombie was mentioned at some point too, but I don't know about that.Whats so hard to get about that is that I am not playing dayz to kill other players, i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to set up a safe zone for players, who aren't cunts on my server.Play singleplayer/I don't get how singleplayer will allow me to set up a safe heaven and protect new players? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
perestain 33 Posted July 1, 2012 In situations like that' date=' disconnect and find a different server. Don't bother with feeding the trolls.[/quote']you are the people ruining the immersion of the game , not the bandits.Atleast bandits follow the rules.Bullshit. There are no rules other than the game mechanics. Why would anyone care for some pseudo-ethics that griefers make up?If you wanna stop playing a videogame, you do so. Anyone who seriously has a problem with that should get a grip on reality.People aren't griefers just because they don't play the game the way you want them to. Stop being such a fucking carebear.There's a reason that term is thrown around so much on these forums.There are so many carebears it's ridiculous. How you could play a game where you are EXPECTED to die at some point and then complain when it happens in a fashion you didn't want?You guys won't be happy until players can't kill each other at all, and then people will find other ways of doing it(not that they haven't already; hello tin can! Hello horde of zombies investigating tin can!).I don't complain about dying at all. I kill on sight myself. Thats not even the point of the argument.You complain about people stopping to play a videogame when they feel like it. And you complain that people should follow imaginary "rules" or otherwise they break (your?) immersion.If anything, you are a carebear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valec 55 Posted July 1, 2012 Whats so hard to get about that is that I am not playing dayz to kill other players' date=' i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to set up a safe zone for players, who aren't cunts on my server.[/quote']What's so hard to get about that I am not playing DayZ to be a carebear, i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to assault any safe zones players set up and then I can loot their dead bodies and drink their tears.You need to wake up. a zombie apocalypse would be a dog-eat-dog world. There would be people like you, sure, who think the best thing to do is to work together for a brighter future. It's admirable, honestly. It would also get you killed.The point is to survive. The best way to survive is to remove or avoid all threats. You need to stop acting like people who kill you are all 'mindless cod killers'. You are being killed to increase your killers chances of survival.Of course there are stories like what happened to the OP. It is a video game at the end of the day and he chose to have fun while killing the OP. I've read a few, and this one wasn't particularly interesting, but others were.You need to stop crying because you died in a PVP game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silenced (DayZ) 5 Posted July 1, 2012 It's more fun shooting someone in the legs and breaking them, hoping that the blood level in the end is somewhere around 500 and leave them alone. Since, of course, I'm not a murderer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gizm0 96 Posted July 1, 2012 Whats so hard to get about that is that I am not playing dayz to kill other players' date=' i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to set up a safe zone for players, who aren't cunts on my server.[/quote']What's so hard to get about that I am not playing DayZ to be a carebear, i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to assault any safe zones players set up and then I can loot their dead bodies and drink their tears.You need to wake up. a zombie apocalypse would be a dog-eat-dog world. There would be people like you, sure, who think the best thing to do is to work together for a brighter future. It's admirable, honestly. It would also get you killed.The point is to survive. The best way to survive is to remove or avoid all threats. You need to stop acting like people who kill you are all 'mindless cod killers'. You are being killed to increase your killers chances of survival.Of course there are stories like what happened to the OP. It is a video game at the end of the day and he chose to have fun while killing the OP. I've read a few, and this one wasn't particularly interesting, but others were.You need to stop crying because you died in a PVP game.but PVP isn't or shouldn't be the main focus in dayz which saddly it is, also I do which karma does bite all the "hardcore" bandits in the ass when some hacker comes along uses their guid and gets it banned.and you know what I wouldn't die in a real apoc because of my friendlyness, most likely I'd be in a guard post and be over run by zeds at the dawn of the out break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M@rshall 3 Posted July 1, 2012 Exactly, DayZ isn't necassarily about murdering ever god damned mother fucker that you see, although, we all should agree, that is a big part of the mod.No, sometimes you shoot every god damned mother fucker that you see just because he's unarmed and you want to hear his legs break.This is the essence of DayZ.Though I hear there's a zombie mini-mod which is quite fun too, haven't tried it yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valec 55 Posted July 1, 2012 Whats so hard to get about that is that I am not playing dayz to kill other players' date=' i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to set up a safe zone for players, who aren't cunts on my server.[/quote']What's so hard to get about that I am not playing DayZ to be a carebear, i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to assault any safe zones players set up and then I can loot their dead bodies and drink their tears.You need to wake up. a zombie apocalypse would be a dog-eat-dog world. There would be people like you, sure, who think the best thing to do is to work together for a brighter future. It's admirable, honestly. It would also get you killed.The point is to survive. The best way to survive is to remove or avoid all threats. You need to stop acting like people who kill you are all 'mindless cod killers'. You are being killed to increase your killers chances of survival.Of course there are stories like what happened to the OP. It is a video game at the end of the day and he chose to have fun while killing the OP. I've read a few, and this one wasn't particularly interesting, but others were.You need to stop crying because you died in a PVP game.but PVP isn't or shouldn't be the main focus in dayz which saddly it is, also I do which karma does bite all the "hardcore" bandits in the ass when some hacker comes along uses their guid and gets it banned.and you know what I wouldn't die in a real apoc because of my friendlyness, most likely I'd be in a guard post and be over run by zeds at the dawn of the out break.You're such a piece of shit. "Wah wah wah, I hate bandits.. I hope a hacker gets them banned!".Are you fucking kidding me? You're a pathetic carebear, you have no idea how to play this game, and you should quit. I sincerely hope they make this game even MORE pro-bandit, so I can hear you whine more, because everybody would like a cup full of your tears.You would die in the real apoc. Because i'd kill you. You whiney little bitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M@rshall 3 Posted July 1, 2012 Guys, please keep it civilised there's no need for that level of aggression.Just remember, shoot EVERY GOD DAMNED MOTHER FUCKER THAT YOU SEE.If they try to run, hunt them until you shoot that mother fucker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gizm0 96 Posted July 1, 2012 Whats so hard to get about that is that I am not playing dayz to kill other players' date=' i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to set up a safe zone for players, who aren't cunts on my server.[/quote']What's so hard to get about that I am not playing DayZ to be a carebear, i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to assault any safe zones players set up and then I can loot their dead bodies and drink their tears.You need to wake up. a zombie apocalypse would be a dog-eat-dog world. There would be people like you, sure, who think the best thing to do is to work together for a brighter future. It's admirable, honestly. It would also get you killed.The point is to survive. The best way to survive is to remove or avoid all threats. You need to stop acting like people who kill you are all 'mindless cod killers'. You are being killed to increase your killers chances of survival.Of course there are stories like what happened to the OP. It is a video game at the end of the day and he chose to have fun while killing the OP. I've read a few, and this one wasn't particularly interesting, but others were.You need to stop crying because you died in a PVP game.but PVP isn't or shouldn't be the main focus in dayz which saddly it is, also I do which karma does bite all the "hardcore" bandits in the ass when some hacker comes along uses their guid and gets it banned.and you know what I wouldn't die in a real apoc because of my friendlyness, most likely I'd be in a guard post and be over run by zeds at the dawn of the out break.You're such a piece of shit. "Wah wah wah, I hate bandits.. I hope a hacker gets them banned!".Are you fucking kidding me? You're a pathetic carebear, you have no idea how to play this game, and you should quit. I sincerely hope they make this game even MORE pro-bandit, so I can hear you whine more, because everybody would like a cup full of your tears.You would die in the real apoc. Because i'd kill you. You whiney little bitch.I'm not crying but I guess my tone didn't come off the way i wanted it to, I do hope karma bite bandits in the ass, but I wouldn't want someone to get banned because that would be bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valec 55 Posted July 1, 2012 Guys' date=' please keep it civilised there's no need for that level of aggression.Just remember, shoot EVERY GOD DAMNED MOTHER FUCKER THAT YOU SEE.If they try to run, hunt them until you shoot that mother fucker.[/quote']You're absolutely right.. There's no reason we can't be civil, even if i'm determined to kill. I'll even thank the DayZ gods for the bountiful blessings I have received in the form of a dead survivor.Whats so hard to get about that is that I am not playing dayz to kill other players' date=' i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to set up a safe zone for players, who aren't cunts on my server.[/quote']What's so hard to get about that I am not playing DayZ to be a carebear, i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to assault any safe zones players set up and then I can loot their dead bodies and drink their tears.You need to wake up. a zombie apocalypse would be a dog-eat-dog world. There would be people like you, sure, who think the best thing to do is to work together for a brighter future. It's admirable, honestly. It would also get you killed.The point is to survive. The best way to survive is to remove or avoid all threats. You need to stop acting like people who kill you are all 'mindless cod killers'. You are being killed to increase your killers chances of survival.Of course there are stories like what happened to the OP. It is a video game at the end of the day and he chose to have fun while killing the OP. I've read a few, and this one wasn't particularly interesting, but others were.You need to stop crying because you died in a PVP game.but PVP isn't or shouldn't be the main focus in dayz which saddly it is, also I do which karma does bite all the "hardcore" bandits in the ass when some hacker comes along uses their guid and gets it banned.and you know what I wouldn't die in a real apoc because of my friendlyness, most likely I'd be in a guard post and be over run by zeds at the dawn of the out break.You're such a piece of shit. "Wah wah wah, I hate bandits.. I hope a hacker gets them banned!".Are you fucking kidding me? You're a pathetic carebear, you have no idea how to play this game, and you should quit. I sincerely hope they make this game even MORE pro-bandit, so I can hear you whine more, because everybody would like a cup full of your tears.You would die in the real apoc. Because i'd kill you. You whiney little bitch.I'm not crying but I guess my tone didn't come off the way i wanted it to, I do hope karma bite bandits in the ass, but I wouldn't want someone to get banned because that would be bad.It had nothing to do with your tone. It had to do with the fact that you said hoped some hacker uses bandit's guid and get it banned. You were quite specific. Don't backpedal now, it's all here in the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
void.false@gmail.com 300 Posted July 1, 2012 You're such a piece of shit. "Wah wah wah, I hate bandits.. I hope a hacker gets them banned!".Are you fucking kidding me? You're a pathetic carebear, you have no idea how to play this game, and you should quit. I sincerely hope they make this game even MORE pro-bandit, so I can hear you whine more, because everybody would like a cup full of your tears.You would die in the real apoc. Because i'd kill you. You whiney little bitch. And you are, sir, nothing more than a disrespectful cunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M@rshall 3 Posted July 1, 2012 Whatever guys, so long as you're shooting every god damned mother fucker that you see, I'm happy.Would be a shame for the Devs to have to come up with some half assed zombie mod like so many others before to keep this awesome death match mod alive.P.S, I just got shot and killed.Why? You might ask.Maybe I was distracted on the forum, maybe I was unlucky.Or maybe the other guy saw me and as per the unwritten rule of DayZ, he shot me because I am a god damned mother fucker that he saw. He is a hero. I salute him, I am legging it to cherno with zombie train in tow now looking for a markarov, a few tins of beans and a watch. All the equipment I need to shoot every god damned mother fucker that I see.Now THAT is realism. Such is DayZ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reubenj 1 Posted July 1, 2012 I wonder how some of you behave in real life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikerunk2011@gmail.com 6 Posted July 1, 2012 Whats so hard to get about that is that I am not playing dayz to kill other players' date=' i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to set up a safe zone for players, who aren't cunts on my server.[/quote']What's so hard to get about that I am not playing DayZ to be a carebear, i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to assault any safe zones players set up and then I can loot their dead bodies and drink their tears.You need to wake up. a zombie apocalypse would be a dog-eat-dog world. There would be people like you, sure, who think the best thing to do is to work together for a brighter future. It's admirable, honestly. It would also get you killed.The point is to survive. The best way to survive is to remove or avoid all threats. You need to stop acting like people who kill you are all 'mindless cod killers'. You are being killed to increase your killers chances of survival.Of course there are stories like what happened to the OP. It is a video game at the end of the day and he chose to have fun while killing the OP. I've read a few, and this one wasn't particularly interesting, but others were.You need to stop crying because you died in a PVP game.Dude in zombie apocalypse most people don't have the skills and knowledge on there own to survive. How many people do you know who have great wealth of knowledge in medicine, or know how to hunt and clean game. How many people do you know who can build shelter and the list goes on.See it's not just the zombies you have to worry about. You have to have knowledge in various skills to survive successively. Not to mention there is safety in numbers not only from bandits but also the zombies them selves. So people are going to do one of two things there either going to be bandits or there going to join communities.Now you can think being a bandit is best way to go but you'd be wrong. For starters as people begin to pull together it means less chances of a bandit being able to kill or steel to get the supplies they need not with out a lot of risk. This means a bandit or bandits will have to find better ways of getting the supplies the need. In short being bandit will be easy at the begin of the zombie apocalypse but as time goes on people will begin to pull together and share resources (doesn't mean those communities won't have there share of problems cause they will) and it will become much more difficult for Bandits.In general bandits will form there own communities. However there communities will be built on fear and mistrust. In pinch they will turn on one another in heart beat for there own survival.So the mentality you have is so wrong it's not even funny. You wouldn't last a day in a zombie apocalypse because ultimately you would be alone and eventually you're luck would run out and either some one will pop you're ass or a zombie will get you. Better to make friends pull resources and worth as a communities for survival then to be alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gizm0 96 Posted July 1, 2012 Guys' date=' please keep it civilised there's no need for that level of aggression.Just remember, shoot EVERY GOD DAMNED MOTHER FUCKER THAT YOU SEE.If they try to run, hunt them until you shoot that mother fucker.[/quote']You're absolutely right.. There's no reason we can't be civil, even if i'm determined to kill. I'll even thank the DayZ gods for the bountiful blessings I have received in the form of a dead survivor.What's so hard to get about that I am not playing DayZ to be a carebear' date=' i'm playing to be in a zombie apoc and hopefully one day there will be tools for me to assault any safe zones players set up and then I can loot their dead bodies and drink their tears.You need to wake up. a zombie apocalypse would be a dog-eat-dog world. There would be people like you, sure, who think the best thing to do is to work together for a brighter future. It's admirable, honestly. It would also get you killed.The point is to survive. The best way to survive is to remove or avoid all threats. You need to stop acting like people who kill you are all 'mindless cod killers'. You are being killed to increase your killers chances of survival.Of course there are stories like what happened to the OP. It is a video game at the end of the day and he chose to have fun while killing the OP. I've read a few, and this one wasn't particularly interesting, but others were.You need to stop crying because you died in a PVP game.[/quote']but PVP isn't or shouldn't be the main focus in dayz which saddly it is, also I do which karma does bite all the "hardcore" bandits in the ass when some hacker comes along uses their guid and gets it banned.and you know what I wouldn't die in a real apoc because of my friendlyness, most likely I'd be in a guard post and be over run by zeds at the dawn of the out break.You're such a piece of shit. "Wah wah wah, I hate bandits.. I hope a hacker gets them banned!".Are you fucking kidding me? You're a pathetic carebear, you have no idea how to play this game, and you should quit. I sincerely hope they make this game even MORE pro-bandit, so I can hear you whine more, because everybody would like a cup full of your tears.You would die in the real apoc. Because i'd kill you. You whiney little bitch.I'm not crying but I guess my tone didn't come off the way i wanted it to, I do hope karma bite bandits in the ass, but I wouldn't want someone to get banned because that would be bad.It had nothing to do with your tone. It had to do with the fact that you said hoped some hacker uses bandit's guid and get it banned. You were quite specific. Don't backpedal now, it's all here in the thread.your right I was specific because I couldn't think of any other way that would be a fitting for all the grief they may have caused. I guess I just thought that Dayz would be a real zombie apoc sim instead of a glorifed deathmatch with zeds and survival elements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valec 55 Posted July 1, 2012 You're such a piece of shit. "Wah wah wah' date=' I hate bandits.. I hope a hacker gets them banned!".Are you fucking kidding me? You're a pathetic carebear, you have no idea how to play this game, and you should quit. I sincerely hope they make this game even MORE pro-bandit, so I can hear you whine more, because everybody would like a cup full of your tears.You would die in the real apoc. Because i'd kill you. You whiney little bitch. [/quote']And you are, sir, nothing more than a disrespectful cunt.Not really. You obviously didn't read the thread. So fuck off. Nobody likes a hypocrite.Guys' date=' please keep it civilised there's no need for that level of aggression.Just remember, shoot EVERY GOD DAMNED MOTHER FUCKER THAT YOU SEE.If they try to run, hunt them until you shoot that mother fucker.[/quote']You're absolutely right.. There's no reason we can't be civil, even if i'm determined to kill. I'll even thank the DayZ gods for the bountiful blessings I have received in the form of a dead survivor.but PVP isn't or shouldn't be the main focus in dayz which saddly it is' date=' also I do which karma does bite all the "hardcore" bandits in the ass when some hacker comes along uses their guid and gets it banned.and you know what I wouldn't die in a real apoc because of my friendlyness, most likely I'd be in a guard post and be over run by zeds at the dawn of the out break.[/quote']You're such a piece of shit. "Wah wah wah, I hate bandits.. I hope a hacker gets them banned!".Are you fucking kidding me? You're a pathetic carebear, you have no idea how to play this game, and you should quit. I sincerely hope they make this game even MORE pro-bandit, so I can hear you whine more, because everybody would like a cup full of your tears.You would die in the real apoc. Because i'd kill you. You whiney little bitch.I'm not crying but I guess my tone didn't come off the way i wanted it to, I do hope karma bite bandits in the ass, but I wouldn't want someone to get banned because that would be bad.It had nothing to do with your tone. It had to do with the fact that you said hoped some hacker uses bandit's guid and get it banned. You were quite specific. Don't backpedal now, it's all here in the thread.your right I was specific because I couldn't think of any other way that would be a fitting for all the grief they may have caused. I guess I just thought that Dayz would be a real zombie apoc sim instead of a glorifed deathmatch with zeds and survival elements.Obviously we disagree on what a zombie apocalypse sim entails. I personally believe that zombies are really just the background in the apocalypse. An environmental factor, if you will. I've always felt in most of the good zombie movies and such, how humans behave is what is really interesting. I've always believed that in such an occasion, zombies are not the greatest threat to man, man is.This is how I play DayZ. This is how I believe I would behave in the real apocalypse. Gather some close friends and do your best to survive. Trust nobody you haven't known before the apocalypse, and maybe not even those you have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironpython 0 Posted July 1, 2012 honestly this is a ridiculous thread... everyone missed the point the OP was stating on not THAT he got killed but HOW he got killed... if the guy had just shot him dead then fine and dandy this thread wouldnt have started but he didnt... he pretty much got tortured. now im NOT by any means saying this wouldnt happen in a REAL situation, but seriously... with no consequenses for actions like this in the game, people like the killer will continue to do this stuff until a lot of the community gets tired of it and stop playing, and im sure rocket and his team dont want to see that happen.this sort of happening is hopefully going to be addressed in future patches (ie: moral consequenses for killing/murdering, or dividing that game to do pvp and non-pvp servers= and no toons from the opposite style server cant switch over). either that or there should be incentives to work togetherthis IS a survival game and yes in some situations something like this happens. another posted before saying something about being a lonewolf and shooting on sight increases his survival yes all good, but then theres people that sit and camp hotspots with a sniper rifle for the sole purpose of shooting other players and dont bother looting them and ignore the zeds completely. now im not sure but i dont think THAT is the sole purpose of this game either right? we need to have benifits and also consequenses to this mentality for both sidesi gotta give the OP props for NOT d/cing and i dont do it either... ill wait for death but come on is this REALLY needed? i guess this whole thing boils down to everyone has a right to their own opinion and each person has a different perspective Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
void.false@gmail.com 300 Posted July 1, 2012 ironpython, couldnt say it better. Thank you. I too dont understand why the discussion went the PvP way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites