Banned from NY68 (Admin Abuse)

[xsoban 0]

Around 3 days ago I was playing on NY68 and we come across a huge tent camp. At the camp there are also many vehicles stashed. We decide to steal a lot of things and load it into the offroad. I was messing around with some grenades I found and accidently killed my friend. After that I was loading up the jeep when I suddenly hear gunshots. I start to run away but I'm hit in the leg. With my legs broken I turn around and see the guy crouching at a tree in the distance. I unload probably 15 rounds of my fal at him and I hear the shooting stop. I'm bleeding and about to die so i use this time to eat a cooked meat and bandage myself. After I'm no longer dieing I take the time to shoot in his direction some more even though I can no longer see him. I shoot at the brush he was standing by. After about 10 or more shots I see a message that somebody has died. Right after I get a message saying you have been kicked. I come back and I have shock for 5 minutes. I get back up and eat the meat from one of the tents to heal up and use morphine. I get in the offroad and drive away. 2 minutes later I see another message saying I have been kicked. Now I get kicked every time I join the server so I assume that I'm banned. I don't know the admins name because he never said anything to me. I wasn't recording or anything because I didnt think I would have problems with admin abuse. Can the admins please come forward and unban me?

[Orphen (DayZ) 14]

I'd be very impressed if they came forward if what you're saying is true.

[n_nussbaum@hotmail.com 9]

Actually you was banned for combat logging. All the other stuff that happened before the combat log I wasn't around to witness. I promptly logged in after hearing one of our members say someone found our camp. I see you loading a vehicle up in the middle of our tents. I pop off a few shots of my rifle and you disappear. Sorry but combat logging is against our rules and bannable.

[cik 2]

Do not be a pussy and combat log and you wont get banned. Combat logging ruins the servers experience and experience of other players. Too bad OP; learn to play.

[xsoban 0]

I didnt combat log I was kicked and i came back immediatly and was in shock for 5 minutes I wouldnt have got back on the server if I combat logged. If you are talking about before I killed you, you broke my legs and it put me in prone. I don't know if you think I combat logged there but I didn't. I ate meat bandaged myself and shot back at you and killed you.

[n_nussbaum@hotmail.com 9]

Sorry but you did not kill me, you did however kill a clanmate. But unless you can provide some proof to this accusation then you may as well forget it. I personally watched you combat log after shooting my rifle at you.

Im the admin of NY68 now US186. I don't see your ban being lifted anytime soon.

[christopher.hill449@gmail.com 314]

But what is your proof that he did it?

[torturedchunk 22]

But what is your proof that he did it?

This is key. You can't play the he said she said game. Prove it through the logs.

Whoever is guilty it will show. Whether he disconnected, or you kicked him, it's all in the logs.

Prove it.

[christopher.hill449@gmail.com 314]

Yup, words vs words.

[xsoban 0]

I swear I did not combat log and this seems fishy because I only remember one person that pulled up on a bike with a lee enfield. He shot me and broke my legs then I turned around and managed to take him out bandage and eat a piece of meat before I died. I don't remember seeing or hearing another player but I could be mistaken. Right after that I was kicked and came back to a 5 minute shock. Loaded up the vehicle after I got up and drove away. 2 minutes later ban. Really I have no proof I guess. There really is no way to prove it. Honestly I'm not mad because I've experience admin abuse plenty of times on other games. I just wanted an unban. My name in game is xsoban. There is no where in the logs it would say that I disconnected. I was kicked and then banned. That is all. There is no possible way for him to prove I combat logged because it never happened. Who would combat log then come back immediately then sit there throughout the whole shock without alt-f4. I am an honest player really. I just thought there might be a way for someone to see that what im saying is true. If I'm not then okay. Been though it plenty of times. Its tough to prove an admin abused without using fraps all the time.

[torturedchunk 22]

I swear I did not combat log and this seems fishy because I only remember one person that pulled up on a bike with a lee enfield. He shot me and broke my legs then I turned around and managed to take him out bandage and eat a piece of meat before I died. I don't remember seeing or hearing another player but I could be mistaken. Right after that I was kicked and came back to a 5 minute shock. Loaded up the vehicle after I got up and drove away. 2 minutes later ban. Really I have no proof I guess. There really is no way to prove it. Honestly I'm not mad because I've experience admin abuse plenty of times on other games. I just wanted an unban. My name in game is xsoban. There is no where in the logs it would say that I disconnected. I was kicked and then banned. That is all. There is no possible way for him to prove I combat logged because it never happened. Who would combat log then come back immediately then sit there throughout the whole shock without alt-f4. I am an honest player really. I just thought there might be a way for someone to see that what im saying is true. If I'm not then okay. Been though it plenty of times. Its tough to prove an admin abused without using fraps all the time.

That's our point. If he can't prove it, then the ban needs to be removed.

[candysoldhere 2]

Sounds like another case of an admin getting sand in his vajay and getting pissy. Not to mention he could easily alter the logs, could he not? Anyways, I've seen admins do stupid stuff. For example, a seemingly random server restart after 3 people are killed and 3 vehicles with loot stolen... hmmmmmmmmm.

I have yet to see an admin who doesn't in some way use his/her power to their advantage.

[n_nussbaum@hotmail.com 9]

Im sorry but I have a very stern position on combat loggers. I have only recently began to fraps them for proof. And due to this incident not being recorded on fraps I am willing to remove the ban with a warning.

Our server stance on combat logging is harsh and considering I am a fair admin and not a "abuser" as the OP has pointed out. I will let him slide due to the request of proof from myself. The irony of this situation is if I never responded in the first place this thread would have been pushed aside with the 100 other threads "I was banned". Along with a post from someone telling the OP to provide proof not myself.

I am an active admin and take my reputation as a server admin serious as well as make it a point to improve my server at every possible level. For example the past day I spent over 3 hours cleaning up Cherno and Electro from the infamous razor wire and tank blocks being placed everywhere blocking entrances into 90% of the buildings. As well as before every restart I make it point to let everyone know through Rcon global that I will be restarting the server in X minutes to provide ample time for those players to find a safe spot to log out.

As an admin there is nothing I can do that can be considered abuse besides an unjustified ban. I run a clean server, and I will ban for combat logging.

[Irenicus (DayZ) 289]

You still have yet to provide any proof...

[Coty (DayZ) 0]

Sorry but you did not kill me' date=' you did however kill a clanmate. But unless you can provide some proof to this accusation then you may as well forget it. I personally watched you combat log after shooting my rifle at you.

Im the admin of NY68 now US186. I don't see your ban being lifted anytime soon.

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and in his next post he rants on about himself.

Seems pretty self centered imo, but at least the ban is repealed, and I know what server to not join, so I don't accidentally raid the wrong camp.

[n_nussbaum@hotmail.com 9]

Feel free to join whichever server you wish no need to express yourself on what you server you choose to join. This is the ban appeals forums, not your personal blog forums. I would appreciate it if a mod would lock this thread as this issue has been handled and half the people posting here having nothing to do with it nor do they understand the difficulty being and admin trying to enforce rules that ruin a game.

This threads last two posts have turned this thread into troll bait.

[christopher.hill449@gmail.com 314]

So you unbanned him right? Since your technically not suppose to ban for combat logging, just for the only 2 reasons Rocket specified.

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(05-18-2012 03:49 AM)rocket Wrote: In short, their are only two reasons why you, as a server owner, should ban a player on your server. Those two reasons are: Malicious talk, and racism. You may not ban a user for stealing your loot, killing you, spying on you, etc.

DCing isnt mentioned yet.

[Powermolch 3]

So you unbanned him right? Since your technically not suppose to ban for combat logging' date=' just for the only 2 reasons Rocket specified.

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(05-18-2012 03:49 AM)rocket Wrote: In short, their are only two reasons why you, as a server owner, should ban a player on your server. Those two reasons are: Malicious talk, and racism. You may not ban a user for stealing your loot, killing you, spying on you, etc.

DCing isnt mentioned yet.

Using Cheats and known Exploits is also a reason to ban Curgon. And DCing during gunfights is , by Rocket himself, an Exploit. Killing people in Debug Forest is forbidden too.

But sure you need proof before ban anyone. I can only give a hint to all Server Admins with enough Power and Disk Space - Run a Recorder like Fraps or something when you get into Contact with Players.

And all other Players too, who play on the same server on a regular basis. Just link it to your local Admins, and let them decide what to to, but proof is, as stated above, needed.

"Seen with your own eyes" is no trustworthy proof.

[n_nussbaum@hotmail.com 9]

Yes he is unbanned and there is a very large thread already in server discussion where the OP avidly admits he will ban for combat logging. And until I am specifically told not to ban for exploiting (combat logging) from a dev, or someone can link a statement from a dev telling people not to ban for combat logging I will continue to ban those who I can provide evidence (fraps) on.

Rocket states in the quote I provided earlier that DCing during combat is an exploit. Do I allow those who exploit to ruin my server or do I enforce a strict policy against people using this?

Here is two threads that may help shed a bit of light on this subject.

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=12832&page=12

A dev resposnds..

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18145

A snippet from that thread.

Personally I don't recommend it' date=' but I also don't see a server randomly being blacklisted for it. Normally I can make the call on these myself, but due to the possible impact I will be "kind enough" (whehe) to ask the person with the final call on DayZ as a whole, but I just woke up, so that's something for later as I want breakfast before dealing with evil himself.

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DCing is mentioned here. And until a Dev specifically states that servers will be blacklisted for banning combat loggers I will continue to ban combat loggers that ruin the experience of the game.

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No please lock this thread, its going to bring the trolls out.