akm stock

[zewoulfe 3]

hey guys i was just wondering, whats the difference between the folding stck and the wooden stock of the akm?

[frosti 2165]

The look.

[gibonez 3633]

The look.

 

No silly +30 accuracy ?

[PhillyT 554]

Folding stock supposedly improves the accuracy.

 

I like it well enough but in real life, folding stocks feel like crap to shoot with an AK or Saiga.

[hells high 676]

I always go for the attachments I like the look of so I really don't pay attention to what they do (though I do keep a railed grip and flashlight on me for after dark).

[hotcakes 348]

ACHTUNG

BOTH STOCKS GIVE THE SAME DISPERSION MODIFIER. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE AESTHETIC. HAVING EITHER STOCK WILL NOSPREAD YOUR AKM.

[-Gews- 7443]

BOTH STOCKS GIVE THE SAME DISPERSION MODIFIER. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE AESTHETIC. HAVING EITHER STOCK WILL NOSPREAD YOUR AKM.

And if you have the railed handguard, you can remove your stock entirely. Rails are just that awesome.

(by the way attaching a bipod is detrimental since this gun already has 0 spread)

[hells high 676]

And if you have the railed handguard, you can remove your stock entirely. Rails are just that awesome.

(by the way attaching a bipod is detrimental since this gun already has 0 spread)

 

I eventually want taking the wood stock off or folding the wire stock (plz Bohemia :]) to work a bit like the sawn off, allowing you to stuff it vertically into a pack.

[gibonez 3633]

Folding stock supposedly improves the accuracy.

 

I like it well enough but in real life, folding stocks feel like crap to shoot with an AK or Saiga.

 

I shot an underfolder akm ones it made my mouth bleed :/

 

I stupidly tried to get a cheek weld on one and the metal made my tooth slice the side of my cheek.

 

So if anything it should decrease accuracy right

 

 

 

ACHTUNG

BOTH STOCKS GIVE THE SAME DISPERSION MODIFIER. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE AESTHETIC. HAVING EITHER STOCK WILL NOSPREAD YOUR AKM.

 

 

Awesome hopefully soon they remove the dispersion modifier in all the weapon attachments, bipod included and actually give the bipod utility by having it attach to the enviroment and reducing felt recoil when attached.

Edited June 22, 2014 by gibonez

[-Gews- 7443]

Awesome hopefully soon they remove the dispersion modifier in all the weapon attachments, bipod included and actually give the bipod utility by having it attach to the enviroment and reducing felt recoil when attached.

It's not intentional, they just copied the properties of the M4 stocks. The M4 has 0.1 dispersion and the furniture removes 0.0440968*2 resulting in 0.0118064. The AKM has 0.008 dispersion and the stock removes 0.0440968 resulting in 0. The M4 is the only gun with such a high initial dispersion. The AKM dispersion (0.008) is closer to the the SKS (0.005). It would seem they intended it to have 0.008 dispersion and the stocks modifying it was a mistake.

Edited June 22, 2014 by Gews

[gibonez 3633]

It's not intentional, they just copied the properties of the M4 stocks. The M4 has 0.1 dispersion and the furniture removes 0.0440968*2 resulting in 0.0118064. The AKM has 0.008 dispersion and the stock removes 0.0440968 resulting in 0. The M4 is the only gun with such a high initial dispersion. The AKM dispersion (0.008) is closer to the the SKS (0.005). It would seem they intended it to have 0.008 dispersion and the stocks modifying it was a mistake.

 

I understand.

 

I am curious if the entire dispersion mechanic was a mistake and was never actually intentional.

[-Gews- 7443]

I am curious if the entire dispersion mechanic was a mistake and was never actually intentional.

 

Nah, you don't code a "dispersionModifier" system by mistake. From gamescom Reddit topic:

Redditor 1: "Are those things going to have a practical effect or will they be completely cosmetic?"

Chris Torchia: "sure, we can assign attributes to the attachments. What would be the use in attaching a suppressor to your gun if it didn't make it quieter? But I doubt we'll assign an effect to every single attachment. Its hard to quantify in practical terms the effect of replacing the standard A2-style plastic handguard with a Magpul-style one on the gun's performance."

 

Rocket: "Only thing really is probably subtle changes to the dispersion values."

 

Redditor 2: "No but putting free floated handguard would improve accuracy! Also standard handguards dont have rail sections where the magpuls do. Rocket if you ever need ideas for guns/gun related things check out /r/guns"

 

Chris Torchia: "Yes, exactly. Free Float RIS wold have an impact but for those items that have negligible impact on the gun's characteristics, I wanted to present a functional choice. The Magpul-style handguard is a perfect example. It's not free float and doesn't allow you to attach the same number of attachments as a full metal RIS would but its kind of an intermediate 'level' in between the carbine length A2 handguard and the 4-way RIS, which could be used as the highest 'level' for more advanced attachment options."

 

 

 

So it sounded to me like Torchia wasn't thinking of adding any significant dispersion modifier to Magpul, for instance, perhaps none at all ("But I doubt we'll assign an effect to every single attachment. Its hard to quantify in practical terms the effect of replacing the standard A2-style plastic handguard with a Magpul-style one on the gun's performance") but it sounded like Rocket was in favour of the idea ("Only thing really is probably subtle changes to the dispersion values").

 

 

 

Like I always say I don't care about dispersion, only that the values chosen are logical, "authentic", etc.

[gibonez 3633]

Nah, you don't code a "dispersionModifier" system by mistake. From gamescom Reddit topic:

Redditor 1: "Are those things going to have a practical effect or will they be completely cosmetic?"

Chris Torchia: "sure, we can assign attributes to the attachments. What would be the use in attaching a suppressor to your gun if it didn't make it quieter? But I doubt we'll assign an effect to every single attachment. Its hard to quantify in practical terms the effect of replacing the standard A2-style plastic handguard with a Magpul-style one on the gun's performance."

 

Rocket: "Only thing really is probably subtle changes to the dispersion values."

 

Redditor 2: "No but putting free floated handguard would improve accuracy! Also standard handguards dont have rail sections where the magpuls do. Rocket if you ever need ideas for guns/gun related things check out /r/guns"

 

Chris Torchia: "Yes, exactly. Free Float RIS wold have an impact but for those items that have negligible impact on the gun's characteristics, I wanted to present a functional choice. The Magpul-style handguard is a perfect example. It's not free float and doesn't allow you to attach the same number of attachments as a full metal RIS would but its kind of an intermediate 'level' in between the carbine length A2 handguard and the 4-way RIS, which could be used as the highest 'level' for more advanced attachment options."

 

 

 

So it sounded to me like Torchia wasn't thinking of adding any significant dispersion modifier to Magpul, for instance, perhaps none at all ("But I doubt we'll assign an effect to every single attachment. Its hard to quantify in practical terms the effect of replacing the standard A2-style plastic handguard with a Magpul-style one on the gun's performance") but it sounded like Rocket was in favour of the idea ("Only thing really is probably subtle changes to the dispersion values").

 

 

 

Like I always say I don't care about dispersion, only that the values chosen are logical, "authentic", etc.

 

Seems like Torchia knows his guns wonder where the unrealistic properties from weapons is coming from then.

[hotcakes 348]

And if you have the railed handguard, you can remove your stock entirely. Rails are just that awesome.

(by the way attaching a bipod is detrimental since this gun already has 0 spread)

I know. I have all the parts needed to do an SMG build on the AKM because I have all the parts.

 

TOO BAD I CAN'T FIND AN AKM.

[brumey 116]

I know. I have all the parts needed to do an SMG build on the AKM because I have all the parts.

 

TOO BAD I CAN'T FIND AN AKM.

barracks

[hotcakes 348]

barracks

 

Went to Balota.

 

[terminal_boy 860]

The very concept of a weapon attachment other than a suppressor affecting its ballistic properties make Baby Jesus cry.

[terminal_boy 860]

Went to Balota.

 

Everything that is wrong with weapons in the SA in one picture.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

Went to Balota.

 

 

Laser guns in game confirmed.

[Daemonkid 493]

Everything that is wrong with weapons in the SA in one picture.

Indeed.

[xpD1 4]

Would be nice to add this handguard, and remove the RIS and other improbable attachments. 

 

   

[hotcakes 348]

Indeed.

 

AK pistols are an actual thing.

[Daemonkid 493]

AK pistols are an actual thing.

I know AK pistols are a thing. Just, the gun you have looks ugly as fuck. No stock, drum mag, PU scope, rail guard. Like, ew. The gun looks amazing with no stock and 30 round mags. Really cool like that, your picture is "Omfgwtfbbq"

[Munson_fry (DayZ) 312]

one thing is good about the akm  

 

the airfields a buzzing like  a beehive  

 

nwaf is the new berzino at the moment.

 

btw i had to kill for my akm  :P

[frosti 2165]

one thing is good about the akm  

 

the airfields a buzzing like  a beehive  

 

nwaf is the new berzino at the moment.

 

btw i had to kill for my akm  :P

 

Unbelivable numbers of server hoppers on NWAF indeed.