More civillian clothing.. Less military

[liquidsnake 275]

 

No it isn't...

That's PVP/KOS douchebaggery in a game.

I won't lose any sleep over your labeling of my playing to win.

In real life you'd be an absolute retard to shoot anyone who could be one of the last people alive, or just anyway unless you're some badass sharpshooter the person probably has friends that will destroy you and even they were good people you just shot one of them like a fool.

This is a game, not much I or any of us do mirrors what we would likely do in life.

An intelligent and logical person .

Your standard for intelligence and logic is off the reservation, pal.

 

 

 

 

Maybe you'd get that your very behaviour turns this into a mere game, if you were intelligent. Because of people like you, our intricate survival milsim turned into giant deathmatch with the very, very rare sane non-KoS'er. You'd have to be daft not to see the heinous effects of your "logical" conduct. There used to be so much more to it than firing a gun. 

[hombrecz 832]

I'm talking about proper military gear as you find in the game, not army surplus items (which even then are not commonly available in the vast majority of the world). Also, I'm not talking about 'survival' gear either like hiking boots etc, that is more common obviously but not weapons. I see some areas of America (and possibly Russia/parts of Eastern Europe) as exceptions where it may well be easier to find these things. But using all this gear would carry the same risk and the camouflage aspect of it relatively useless imo.

 

I can't agree on surplus items being hard to find atleast when we are talking about Czech rep, which is obviously inspiration for Chernarus map. I mean I would expect army shops being common everywhere basically, when speaking about Europe atleast.

 

Really, we got tons of army shops around and everyone offers both used and new military clothing, tactical vests, backpacks and such.  Only problem remains ballistic protection and obviously weapons.

 

When talking about game, I would agree to move more of the mil clothing to military installations though.

[gibonez 3633]

Less the survivors look like mall ninjas the better.

 

 

 

Soo much tacticool afraid thread my explode.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

 

 

I won't lose any sleep over your labeling of my playing to win..

This is a game, not much I or any of us do mirrors what we would likely do in life.

Your standard for intelligence and logic is off the reservation, pal.

 

 

Then don't call it "survival" that's being a douchebag as I said.

 

Yes it is a game but it's supposed to be a survival game not a death match it's the people that play it that way who ruin it the zombies are supposed to be the enemy and right enough they are easy right now but in future people will still just kill each other and call themselves hardcore survivors, which is hilarious.

 

How so? Explain what's wrong with how I described seeing survivors in real life, nobody with half a brain would just shoot them unless they knew they were coming to get them or that they were murderers.

In real life you can't respawn in 30 seconds, taking on a bunch of guys with guns is the most stupid thing you could do in a post apocalyptic world.

 

 

To bring that back to the topic if military gear was mostly done away with people couldn't camp so easily to just shoot people and overall it would be better for non asshole players, someone with an orange raincoat hiding in a bush is fairly easy to see. If they want to kill people they're going to have to come up close and personal, which they mostly won't.

[liquidsnake 275]

^ Dat first pic  :lol:

[Sutinen 635]

Why would hunters just leave it around? They're most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse without military help they'd just go away in to the wild and live.

Because some of them would be dead, they would forget them, there would be extra pairs with him wearing new ones, some would go to a safe zone with their families and leave everything behind, etc. You aren't really bright.

[sloasdaylight 129]

To bring that back to the topic if military gear was mostly done away with people couldn't camp so easily to just shoot people and overall it would be better for non asshole players, someone with an orange raincoat hiding in a bush is fairly easy to see. If they want to kill people they're going to have to come up close and personal, which they mostly won't.

I don't know whether to laugh or face palm...

 

If they get rid of military gear, guess what? People are STILL going to pass on orange raincoats for exactly the reason you said. Know what they're going to go for instead? Black tactical shirts, green tactical shirts, riders jackets, etc, black cargo pants, brown work boots, brown work gloves, grey/black/brown knit caps, etc. They could remove all the military gear in the game, and people would still be able to camouflage themselves well enough to not be seen, your argument, and especially your example, make no sense. I mean hell, the grey/green check shirts are great for camo in the wilderness, and they're nothing even close to military gear.

 

Beside that, people are still going to camp in cities and in good over watch locations (the hill next to rify or sniper hill at NEAF) where they're far outside of the visual range for most people to be able to notice them without some sort of magnification from optics.

[IronCross 78]

Then don't call it "survival" that's being a douchebag as I said.

 

You must be looking for a canned experience. Go watch the Walking Dead. Dean gave us something open-ended. This is the way it plays.

 

The world is full of assholes. You seem like a member of the entitlement generation, who thinks that someone should manage everything so that "the assholes can't do bad things that butthurt me". No. Man up and handle it, and stop crying about getting KOS'ed. If you don't like it, do it first, or play in a stealthy manner.

 

You've demonstrated a tacit refusal or perhaps inability to comprehend and fully read my replies, so my final word on the issue is this. If you don't like it, play your way and enjoy the outcome. Or wait until the game offers a different experience, which I expect it will. 

Edited June 9, 2014 by theroad64

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Because some of them would be dead, they would forget them, there would be extra pairs with him wearing new ones, some would go to a safe zone with their families and leave everything behind, etc. You aren't really bright.

 

If they left everything behind there wouldn't be just a few bits of clothing or are they all that poor that they can afford a single set of clothes? Clearly people had time to pack or weren't very well stocked and that kind of gear is expensive Chernaus isn't a place full of rich folk clearly.

 

 

I don't know whether to laugh or face palm...

 

If they get rid of military gear, guess what? People are STILL going to pass on orange raincoats for exactly the reason you said. Know what they're going to go for instead? Black tactical shirts, green tactical shirts, riders jackets, etc, black cargo pants, brown work boots, brown work gloves, grey/black/brown knit caps, etc. They could remove all the military gear in the game, and people would still be able to camouflage themselves well enough to not be seen, your argument, and especially your example, make no sense. I mean hell, the grey/green check shirts are great for camo in the wilderness, and they're nothing even close to military gear.

 

Beside that, people are still going to camp in cities and in good over watch locations (the hill next to rify or sniper hill at NEAF) where they're far outside of the visual range for most people to be able to notice them without some sort of magnification from optics.

 

Anyone who goes to an airfield without any optics is an idiot anyway or taking a huge risk to run in and get some, that's a battle zone anyway.

Less military and camo gear makes it a lot harder to snipe people around towns, if someone can spot you a mile away with a red shirt good luck shooting them and easy to get military gear makes it hilariously easy to be well equipped because they have the best pockets, military gear being everywhere just means people get everything they need in like an hour or less and can race back to a city to hide and kill people.

 

 

You must be looking for a canned experience. Go watch the Walking Dead. Dean gave us something open-ended. This is the way it plays.

 

The world is full of assholes. You seem like a member of the entitlement generation, who thinks that someone should manage everything so that "the assholes can't do bad things that butthurt me". No. Man up and handle it, and stop crying about getting KOS'ed. If you don't like it, do it first, or play in a stealthy manner.

 

You've demonstrated a tacit refusal or perhaps inability to comprehend and fully read my replies, so my final word on the issue is this. If you don't like it, play your way and enjoy the outcome. Or wait until the game offers a different experience, which I expect it will. 

 

You contradicted your own point about how this doesn't mirror what you would do in real life and you're now saying this is what people would do, people don't play this game the way it was meant to be played they treat it like CoD, sure seems like you do.

 

The world is full of assholes but nobody would be like the players in this game in real life, they ruin the experience for many players(I don't really care just wish people would be more sociable) and all it does is harm the games future.

 

How have I not comprehended your reply? You said shooting people for no reason is survival and it isn't, people wouldn't just shoot on sight in real life unless their IQ is like 5. There's just no reason for it and everyone needlessly killing fresh spawns just spoils the enjoyment for people, go play CoD or Battlefield if you want a shooting game and if you want a zombie game come back when DayZ is complete and cry over how you can't camp and shoot people any more.

[sloasdaylight 129]

Anyone who goes to an airfield without any optics is an idiot anyway or taking a huge risk to run in and get some, that's a battle zone anyway.

Less military and camo gear makes it a lot harder to snipe people around towns, if someone can spot you a mile away with a red shirt good luck shooting them and easy to get military gear makes it hilariously easy to be well equipped because they have the best pockets, military gear being everywhere just means people get everything they need in like an hour or less and can race back to a city to hide and kill people.

 

Right, because the Red Dot scopes on an M4 have such great magnification, and are so useful for identifying someone laying prone in the grass in a shadowed area 600m away, right?

 

And again, just because someone isn't using TTsKO (the only camo jacket in the game right now), and instead is using a piece of civilian clothing doesn't mean anything as far as how easily you're going to be seen in a city. There are so many hiding places in Berezino and Svet, and so many second story buildings you can hide win with an SkS and a PU scope, or a Mosin and a LR, or even an M4 and an ACOG or red dot that you can still sneak up on and kill people.

 

Also, more pockets = faster gearing? Having more pockets doesn't mean that the stuff you'll need shows up more readily, just that you can carry more of it. You can run around in Full TTsKO gear and you'll have, at most, like 2 slots more than someone in non military gear.

[Whyherro123 2283]

Uh, actually. in-game I prefer to wear more "civilian-y" clothing, maily due to the fact that I don't have to go to the clusterfuck that is a military spawn. Wearing a green hoodie and a pair of hunter pants gives me almost the same capacity as TTSKO gear, with the benefits of being absolutely EVERYWHERE

[gibonez 3633]

^ Dat first pic  :lol:

 

that one ? its a classic.

like this one.

[Sencha 100]

You have to specify more what you by saying military gear? Camo clothing and various tactical gear (vests,camelbacks, gloves, knee protector and tons more) are common, you can find it in every army shop. Ofcourse majority might not be the best quallity, lots of might be actually cheap chinese knockoffs, but still usable. Those shops usually also sells crossbows, various types of knives and survival gear in general.

 

When talking about weapons, unless you are in America, those should be harder to find than tac clothing ofc.

 

Speaking of chinese knockoffs, I would really like some chinese camo gear. Specifically Type 07 camo.

[hombrecz 832]

Speaking of chinese knockoffs, I would really like some chinese camo gear. Specifically Type 07 camo.

 

Yes, there are tons of interesting camo patterns, Would be nice to have tons of them ingame, some quite rare though.

 

edit: I hope they will introduce also forest version of "Orel" blue camo. Forest one would be basically good old tiger.

Edited June 20, 2014 by Hombre