rocket 16567 Posted May 14, 2012 Okay, so still people don't realize this is an Alpha. If you do not know what this means - go look it up on wikipedia RIGHT NOW.When I fix one bug, many can crop up.I fixed some zombie spawning bugs, time syncing bugs, and now there are alot of zombies. This became apparent in testing, but rather than delay the patch release by a few days (too many people are helicopter dying) the update was released.So yes, the zombie numbers weren't my intention - but now that it is here, let us see how they play out. Maybe we might actually learn something from it or maybe everyone just wants to jump to conclusions in the first ten minutes... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monad 1 Posted May 14, 2012 I think it lends an interesting look at a potential direction for the mod - that zombie-concentrated areas can simply never be entirely cleared. Maybe it would be more interesting if it was flat-out impossible(or maybe just very improbable) to hold a city the way we can now. Maybe instead, towns are only worth entering as smash-and-grabs; get what you need, get out, make sure you have a plan the entire way. Most of the upset about the zombie numbers lies in how people are used to hunkering down until the zombies stop coming, rather than trying to make an opening to escape.I just think it is worth a look to see how these spawns change player behaviors before flying off the handle and saying the game needs to be tweaked one way or another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadbolt (DayZ) 10 Posted May 14, 2012 love all the zombies, zombies are actually a threat when entering towns now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oktyabr 53 Posted May 14, 2012 Spot on rocket.We'll shed some of the kids that no matter how hard you yell ALPHA (it's in the mod logo for fucks sake!) they still seem to expect their perfect dream game... and the hard core who want to help you refine this will still be around.This new patch is scary as fuck. And I like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocket 16567 Posted May 14, 2012 So, like the gents say - we have alot more zombies than was intended. Lets see where this goes. Please stop sending abusive emails! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tales23 0 Posted May 14, 2012 I LOVE the amount of zombies, it's awesome. Cities should be dangerous, and require groups to do anything in. It's not impossible to sneak into cities and it totally fucks over the bandits who have been running around town killing people. All in all I love the amount of zombies and hope it stays like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riemer 23 Posted May 14, 2012 I for one like the new zombie spawns, coupled with the new sounds and faces they turn this game from "Oh look, zombies." to "Oh shit! Zombies!"And listening to casuals cry is always fun as well. And Monad, I like that smash and grab idea of playing, let's hope everyone can stop crying and do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago Ted 3 Posted May 14, 2012 Ah, it's a bug? Good. I thought it was intentional!Much better then.also happy birthday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sankis 0 Posted May 14, 2012 Fair enough. Hopefully further tweaks will find a better spawn rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Killing Joke 43 Posted May 14, 2012 Cities should be dangerous' date=' and require groups to do anything in.[/quote']I don't play well with others.;)I'll need to look for a solution that allows me to still be a lone wolf. I'll let you know how that turns out.TKJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris101 0 Posted May 14, 2012 People are too use to the low counts.I recall there being 1000+ zombies sometimes on servers.People are just upset that they have to walk everywhere while crouched and actually avoid em.I myself carry a few Smoke grenades to pull them away. Since before they weren't truly needed.I prefer the high count.. Gives 'Bandits' and Survivors a hard time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Examiner2 (DayZ) 5 Posted May 14, 2012 The number of zombies now is fantastic, I just actually had to use cans and bottles to sneak through the middle of Cherno. Aggro'd a group of zomibes, killed them and snuck out (while having only 1 flare, and 18 makarov rounds to boot). People wanted more zombies, now we have them. Survival is about adapting, so adapt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tiri 21 Posted May 14, 2012 So' date=' like the gents say - we have alot more zombies than was intended. Lets see where this goes. Please stop sending abusive emails![/quote']Wow seriously, you get abusive emails for that ?The stupidity of some people will always surprise me.It's an alpha, the only thing we, the players, are needed to do, is a feedback, and some are still complaining and whining all the time. For a Free. Mod. In. Alpha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
premiumkrap 41 Posted May 14, 2012 Yah! ....what Rocket said. Quit your crying ,DayZ is in ALPHA!!!!!.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkliberator 2 Posted May 14, 2012 Please stop sending abusive emails!If it makes you feel better, I think this mod is way better with the patch! Hopefully counterbalances the emails you get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codeine 3 Posted May 14, 2012 The way i see it right now is risk vs reward is it worth killing 100 zombies to get empty cans? Yea no.Also, what is happening to respawn times? there was 5 of us cleared out novy sobor and by the time we killed all the zombies they were respawned and charging at us again. Two of us eventually died. Never even got to loot anything.(pre 1.5.7) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocket 16567 Posted May 14, 2012 Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoboWithAGlock 25 Posted May 14, 2012 Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Did you really just link the first page of this thread in the second page of this thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acebane 268 Posted May 14, 2012 It was totally necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocket 16567 Posted May 14, 2012 Did you really just link the first page of this thread in the second page of this thread?I have tried everything else. Now I am trying to fight fire, with fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codeine 3 Posted May 14, 2012 Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Read: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2225 before replying about fucking zambie numbers!Thanks for spamming this thread to my reply (possibly?), im not complaining. I was trying to give my feedback about the situation atm regarding the zombie lvls, i did read that post and i understand there a repercussions for being in Alpha. You dont want community opinions and feedback? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocket 16567 Posted May 14, 2012 Thanks for spamming this thread to my reply (possibly?)' date=' im not complaining. I was trying to give my feedback about the situation atm regarding the zombie lvls, i did read that post and i understand there a repercussions for being in Alpha. You dont want community opinions and feedback?[/quote']It is good to get feedback. But what is not good, is to get the same thing again and again when the situation is explained. Especially when the bug itself creates an interesting situation to study the mechanic.Yes, the patch unexpectedly created large numbers of zombies. Once I realized this, I immediately made an announcement.Really, I'm at my wit's end with people who continue to post the same stuff again and again. It prevents me and the others in the team from being able to read the real and relevant points and the important discussion. If people can see an issue has been highlighted, and the reasons for the situation explained, I would expect them not to say the exact same thing as the person above them.There have been extremely important contributions come from the forums. Telling me there are large numbers of zombies now spawning, is not one of them. I know, I saw for myself, and I made an announcement immediately. No we study what happens till the next patch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabot696 1 Posted May 14, 2012 While I will still have to play more to form a better opinion, so far I love the increased zombie count. The game is much more difficult (as if PvP wasn't difficult enough!) and way more terrifying, exactly how I think it should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acebane 268 Posted May 14, 2012 more zombies = good by me. It encourages grouping now and running solo requires some real thinking/planning. Now there's incentive to go with a group, where as usually you could solo it up everywhere. People complaining that solo isn't viable anymore - it is. Just play smart, stick to the ground and AVOID zombies. This means being patient sometimes and waiting out their "patrol route". Awesome unplanned change, Rocket. This is the only mod/game I actually look forward to patches/fixes with such anticipation. I LOVE THIS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon_Danger 0 Posted May 14, 2012 So' date=' like the gents say - we have alot more zombies than was intended. Lets see where this goes. Please stop sending abusive emails![/quote']I think those abusive emails are indicative to "where this goes" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites