More sniper rifles

[Chaingunfighter 917]

Ye, but my fear is that everyone will only play the game for loot and camp as hell, pretending someone walking on your way to be sniped. Using a Mosin it's a question of skill....but if everyone will run for a dragunov it would be like playing a 5vs5 on Counter Strike Global Offensive and try to fight against 5 Scar-20 sem-auto sniper rifles which they are camping.

 

And another my fear is spamm of grenade launcher, everyone inside a building behind a corner is dead.

 

This because everyone will run for military loot and no one in the game will be anymore a common bandit or a survivor.

That's why we need realistic bullet mechanics, and the SVD along with its magazines and attachments need to be acceptably rare. Even though there's no real situation I'd ever take a Mosin over an SVD, it's not like the SVD is going to be available 24/7 and you can handload ammo into the Mosin vs requiring a magazine for the SVD which may be very difficult to find.

 

If they add grenade/rocket launchers, you can (pretty much) be rest assured that they will be rare and ammunition be even rarer, so "spam" will be entirely worthless if you even managed to get enough to do that. Also, launchers like the M72 LAW can only be fired once, meaning that screwing up removes you of a very valuable weapon.

We probably don't need any launchers until vehicles are added, though (except maybe the underbarrel grenade launchers, since they've already finished those)

[GunnyITA 107]

That's why we need realistic bullet mechanics, and the SVD along with its magazines and attachments need to be acceptably rare. Even though there's no real situation I'd ever take a Mosin over an SVD, it's not like the SVD is going to be available 24/7 and you can handload ammo into the Mosin vs requiring a magazine for the SVD which may be very difficult to find.

 

If they add grenade/rocket launchers, you can (pretty much) be rest assured that they will be rare and ammunition be even rarer, so "spam" will be entirely worthless if you even managed to get enough to do that. Also, launchers like the M72 LAW can only be fired once, meaning that screwing up removes you of a very valuable weapon.

We probably don't need any launchers until vehicles are added, though (except maybe the underbarrel grenade launchers, since they've already finished those)

 

I hope you are right...

 

 

About who asked for the SMG, it would be a nice idea, i might agree with that.

 

Scorpion SMG  (.38)

PPSH 43 (7,62 x 25 tokarev)

MP5 A5 (9mm bullets)

MP5 K    (9 mm bullets)

UMP 45  (45 ACP bullets)

 

These are weapons would be appreciate to been seen

Edited April 20, 2014 by GunnyITA

[GunnyITA 107]

Even though I think we should have more sniper rifles, I don't want everyone to be camping at a place like sniper hill in electro or on top of a fire station. Once I ran into electro with a friend and there were sooooooooo many snipers! we should have more sniper rifles but make them more rare... and the ammo even more rare

 

 

I'm trying to read at this many many times but "It has no sense"! You can't complay about numbers of snipers and being sniped and asking more snipers! What the hell are you saying?!

You should say instead: "There are too way many snipers and sniper rifle loots and i would like there should be as less as possible!"... This has a sense!

[Chaingunfighter 917]

I hope you are right...

 

 

About who asked for the SMG, it would be a nice idea, i might agree with that.

 

Scorpion SMG  (.38)

PPSH 43 (7,62 x 25 tokarev)

MP5 A5 (9mm bullets)

MP5 K    (9 mm bullets)

UMP 45  (45 ACP bullets)

 

These are weapons would be appreciate to been seen

MP5K is the next SMG, as per the files in the new experimental version.

[Jiggly Ritz 35]

Sniper rifles in general are too OP in dayz. I would like to see shotguns become a more prominent feature in the game, for a few reasons:

 

1) It forces people not to kos, because a shot to the torso would damage all of the victims gear.

 

2) They are close range which leads to the need for a bandit encounter instead of a 12 year old hiding in a bush with a sniper rifle getting headshots all day and racking up the loot.

 

3) They are very reliable zombie killing weapons, and shotgun shells are everywhere on the map.

[w1lg5r 70]

That's pretty much what they're begging the devs for.

There's a difference between wanting more variants of sniper rifles and sniper rifles spawning everywhere. Your argument seems to be, "No sniper rifles, or it will turn into call of duty where everyone on the map is shooting each other". The slution is to make sniping hard, and make sniper rifles rare.

[AlphaDogMeat . 493]

There's a difference between wanting more variants of sniper rifles and sniper rifles spawning everywhere. Your argument seems to be, "No sniper rifles, or it will turn into call of duty where everyone on the map is shooting each other". The slution is to make sniping hard, and make sniper rifles rare.

 

Good call.  Fill the game up with even more wheezy fat CoD kids with aimbots and dupe scripts.  Outstanding solution.

[w1lg5r 70]

Good call.  Fill the game up with even more wheezy fat CoD kids with aimbots and dupe scripts.  Outstanding solution.

In case you haven't noticed, people snipe with mosins and the game is already filled with "wheezy fat CoD kids". If they  make sniping hard those CoD kids wont be able to do it, rather than your unrealistic, unnecessary solution of removing all sniper rifles. Also, the presence of dupes and aim bots will be unaffected by the presence of sniper rifles.

[AlphaDogMeat . 493]

In case you haven't noticed, people snipe with mosins and the game is already filled with "wheezy fat CoD kids". If they make sniping hard those CoD kids wont be able to do it, rather than your unrealistic, unnecessary solution of removing all sniper rifles. Also, the presence of dupes and aim bots will be unaffected by the presence of sniper rifles.

Where did I say anything about removing all sniper rifles?

[w1lg5r 70]

Where did I say anything about removing all sniper rifles?

thats the impression i was getting, what do you want.

[AlphaDogMeat . 493]

thats the impression i was getting, what do you want.

 

I want the game to not be all about sniping, MOAR GUNS!!!11LOL!!!, KoS and PvP deathmatch.  Survival isn't just about counting the bodies and I don't want those who think it is to feel that they're pushing against an open door in their quest to steer SA in that direction.  I recognise, however, that anyone who's bought the game has the right to play like a dick or any other way they choose.

 

That said, this forum isn't the game, so I feel at liberty to object to proposals which I feel are likely to promulgate the spread of dickishness, in the hope that even my small voice is heard amongst the squeaking and wheezing of the fat kids.  I will concede that my chosen medium of protest - sarcasm and interpretive dance - may not be to everyone's liking.  But I also have to stop the pendulum swinging too far in the other direction, and so if it prevents me from having to keep a calculator and notebook of windage tables next to my PC whenever I feel like popping the head of a no-good, bean-stealing varmint like an over-ripe melon from 300m, then that's the way it's got to be.

Edited April 21, 2014 by alphadogmeat

[ghasteater100 5]

I'm trying to read at this many many times but "It has no sense"! You can't complay about numbers of snipers and being sniped and asking more snipers! What the hell are you saying?!

You should say instead: "There are too way many snipers and sniper rifle loots and i would like there should be as less as possible!"... This has a sense!

I am saying that we need more types of sniper rifles, but make them more rare so less people will be able to get them.

[GunnyITA 107]

I am saying that we need more types of sniper rifles, but make them more rare so less people will be able to get them.

 

 

Ok this has more sense and i Agree with you. Even if i think that semi-auto snipers would be pretty annoying.

 

As someone said in the previous page, would be nice if there will be some kind of forcing people to use shotguns as a reliable weapon to any situation on close range, and also because ammos are easy to find.

[GunnyITA 107]

That said, this forum isn't the game, so I feel at liberty to object to proposals which I feel are likely to promulgate the spread of dickishness, in the hope that even my small voice is heard amongst the squeaking and wheezing of the fat kids.  I will concede that my chosen medium of protest - sarcasm and interpretive dance - may not be to everyone's liking.  But I also have to stop the pendulum swinging too far in the other direction, and so if it prevents me from having to keep a calculator and notebook of windage tables next to my PC whenever I feel like popping the head of a no-good, bean-stealing varmint like an over-ripe melon from 300m, then that's the way it's got to be.

 

 

I'm gonna put this on my signature. You are my idol and i wants you as President.

[Wili 156]

Hi, I think the less snipers the better, now you can be at Electro  school or hospital roof without being snipered from 1 km away. And these kills are quite absurd because the sniper rarely loots his victims.

[w1lg5r 70]

Hi, I think the less snipers the better, now you can be at Electro  school or hospital roof without being snipered from 1 km away. And these kills are quite absurd because the sniper rarely loots his victims.

The point of having snipers, IMO stopped people (or at least made them more cautious), from putting themselves in obvious positions (aka, the firestation roof). And since they have little chance of being killed, the overall fear factor is reduced.

[w1lg5r 70]

That said, this forum isn't the game, so I feel at liberty to object to proposals which I feel are likely to promulgate the spread of dickishness, in the hope that even my small voice is heard amongst the squeaking and wheezing of the fat kids.  I will concede that my chosen medium of protest - sarcasm and interpretive dance - may not be to everyone's liking.  But I also have to stop the pendulum swinging too far in the other direction, and so if it prevents me from having to keep a calculator and notebook of windage tables next to my PC whenever I feel like popping the head of a no-good, bean-stealing varmint like an over-ripe melon from 300m, then that's the way it's got to be.

That's fair enough, but wouldn't you rather that you had to keep rangetables to kill at 700+ metres for example, to make sniping hard. This would mean the the "fat CoD kids" you and so many of us hate, would simply not be able to snipe effectively; and make the people who do snipe a skilled and potent group, thus legitimizing the play style. I do feel that sniping is necessary since it brought an atmosphere of fear and anxiety into sneaking round elektro that i haven't really felt since the mod. Personally, i never sat on hills all day and sniped, it was too boring, however it helped make the mod so popular.

[ispecter 55]

I agree but this will all come in time. Obviously it's still alpha so in a year you'll find there will probably be 5 or more riles compatible with the L.R.S

[rosebud 35]

No, no, no, oh my god no more sniper rifles. Why? Why more sniper rifles? So you can sit on a hill and pick off fellow players? The world has gone to poo, its overrun by undead and what do I want to do? Oh Ii know...kill my fellow man from a mile away. You want a shoot-em-up play ARMA. The only thing scopes are used for in this game id killing a fellow player from a safe distance. Everyone has a sniper rifle, everyone. If you don't you search till you get one. The game has deteriorated into happy land for psychopaths. All you do is arm yourself to the teeth because everyone else is armed to the teeth who you kill on sight.

[ld-airgrafix 403]

With heat seekers!

One a serious note, im all for 1,00's of guns but make them all really rare especially military weapons and more so sniper rifles.

So you want 100's of guns, and even if they are rare as hell, one per server, 20 people average per server, you can easily acquire over 5 guns. How exactly are you struggling to survive with 5 fully loaded guns?

[liquidsnake 275]

CZ550, SVD, SV98, M24, perhaps KSVK and M107 if the ".50 is OP" whiners are in a good mood.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

So you want 100's of guns, and even if they are rare as hell, one per server, 20 people average per server, you can easily acquire over 5 guns. How exactly are you struggling to survive with 5 fully loaded guns?

I don't think guns will be as rare as one per server. And how exactly would you get over 5 guns if it was one gun per server?

But yes, a large variety of weapons with limited spawns to each would be great, it means that you won't be constantly seeing the same redundant weapons every time you get in a fight.

Edited April 23, 2014 by Chaingunfighter

[ld-airgrafix 403]

I don't think guns will be as rare as one per server. And how exactly would you get over 5 guns if it was one gun per server?

But yes, a large variety of weapons with limited spawns to each would be great, it means that you won't be constantly seeing the same redundant weapons every time you get in a fight.

I don't think guns will be as rare as one per server. And how exactly would you get over 5 guns if it was one gun per server?

But yes, a large variety of weapons with limited spawns to each would be great, it means that you won't be constantly seeing the same redundant weapons every time you get in a fight.

Dropbear said 100's of different guns as long as they are rare, and you cant make it rarer than 1 of each, so you have 100 guns (all different models) 20 players on average per server, you do the math. I'm sure they won't have 100 different models, my reply was more of a joke than being serious.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

Dropbear said 100's of different guns as long as they are rare, and you cant make it rarer than 1 of each, so you have 100 guns (all different models) 20 players on average per server, you do the math. I'm sure they won't have 100 different models, my reply was more of a joke than being serious.

There is no way to guarantee anything will spawn on a server. The loot-spawning isn't done by an overall percentile, it's done based on randomization (so it's technically possible for every loot item on the map to be rotten fruit).

And their wishlist is over 100 guns. Not to say we'll get that many but I'd hope around 50-60 guns at the least.

[ld-airgrafix 403]

There is no way to guarantee anything will spawn on a server. The loot-spawning isn't done by an overall percentile, it's done based on randomization (so it's technically possible for every loot item on the map to be rotten fruit).

And their wishlist is over 100 guns. Not to say we'll get that many but I'd hope around 50-60 guns at the least.

Regardless of what they do, guns spawn need to be reduced. At the moment you can get heavily armed by visiting barracks anywhere on the map. Maybe once our character is locked to a server, players won't server hop, perhaps it's something devs need to keep in mind, for testing purposes. Big problem with this is, if your server is full, you can't log on to your player, and 40 is max, so this will happen a lot.