Magazines

[srgntpepper 85]

One thing that seems very strange to me is that pistols spawn without the magazine.  Who the hell owns a pistol, but doesn't have the magazine for it.  I like how the magazine system works though, how you attach it to the gun and take it out to reload it, but the spawning system for it is ridiculous and immersion breaking.  I don't think you should be able to find everything with the gun: a full clip with a box of ammo nearby, or attachments and mods, but anyone who owns a gun has AT LEAST one magazine.

 

Currently, it seems like the player can find all different kinds of ammo and the gun to go with them, but magazines are insanely rare for some reason.

 

I suggest that guns spawn with just one magazine attached.  The mag can be full or empty and I would actually prefer there to be randomly both options(maybe the owner used the clip on some zombies).  I don't think any of the guns need to spawn with snap loaders or anything, but magazines should definitely be in or near the gun, it is silly finding a bunch of pistols with no magazines....like they magically disappeared.

 

I am mostly suggesting this for pistols, they seem to be the biggest problem to find magazines for.  I haven't even seen the Amphibia mag yet...

 

EDIT: This post is about PISTOL magazines NOT weapon magazines, some people think I am talking about weapons in general

Edited March 24, 2014 by srgnt.pepper

[srgntpepper 85]

there is no way I am the only player that feels this way lol

[Survivor_Ted 269]

It depends on where you find the pistol, it makes sense to keep the pistol and the mag seperated for safety meassures.

 

Others also think that it would be too easy to find it with the mag.

[Scott61 93]

The rifles and MG do not spawn with Mags so why should pistols ?

One thing that seems very strange to me is that pistols spawn without the magazine.

 

 

Who the hell stores or leaves laying around a pistol or anything else with a Mag in it

 Who the hell owns a pistol, but doesn't have the magazine for it.

 

 

 

I seem to find enough pistol Mags,you need to really look and loot and loot again and again...

but there there enough I seem to be able to eventually have two Mags for each pistol I carry,including the Amphibia mag

 

I dont think thy need to make the game even easier than it already is to get armed to the teeth as it does not take much to get armed

if anything...they should make it even harder to get armed

 

Most stuff at Military bases and airfields have been looted by server hoppers I seem to find at least and kind of irates me as I spend countless hours running from one to another just to usually always find the places looted.Quite often I will be trying to loot,and someone will log in right in the next room lol

 the spawning system for it is ridiculous and immersion breaking.

 

Currently, it seems like the player can find all different kinds of ammo and the gun to go with them, but magazines are insanely rare for some reason.

 

I suggest that guns spawn with just one magazine attached.  The mag can be full or empty and I would actually prefer there to be randomly both options(maybe the owner used the clip on some zombies).  I don't think any of the guns need to spawn with snap loaders or anything, but magazines should definitely be in or near the gun, it is silly finding a bunch of pistols with no magazines....like they magically disappeared.

 

I am mostly suggesting this for pistols, they seem to be the biggest problem to find magazines for.  I haven't even seen the Amphibia mag yet...

 

 

The Mags are out there,for all the guns in game... you just need to look harder!

Edited March 24, 2014 by Scott61

[Meenos 47]

+1 you find guns and in schools the magazine can be in the same room but you rarely find both guns and magazine in the same room. though i prefer to find a magazine inside of a pistol. even if its empty. 

[willhelm 85]

The rifles and MG do not spawn with Mags so why should pistols ?

Who the hell stores or leaves laying around a pistol or anything else with a Mag in it

I seem to find enough pistol Mags,you need to really look and loot and loot again and again...

but there there enough I seem to be able to eventually have two Mags for each pistol I carry,including the Amphibia mag

I dont think thy need to make the game even easier than it already is to get armed to the teeth as it does not take much to get armed

if anything...they should make it even harder to get armed

Most stuff at Military bases and airfields have been looted by server hoppers I seem to find at least and kind of irates me as I spend countless hours running from one to another just to usually always find the places looted.Quite often I will be trying to loot,and someone will log in right in the next room lol

The Mags are out there,for all the guns in game... you just need to look harder!

How the hell does one " look harder " I search everywhere clean in military zones. And I can only find fucking hundreds of m4 magazines Edited March 24, 2014 by NevadaDG

[srgntpepper 85]

The rifles and MG do not spawn with Mags so why should pistols ?

well for starters, finding a mag for the M4 is easier then finding an M4, usually ill have like 3 mags in my bag with optics and M4 parts to switch out before I have an M4

Also, I was talking about pistols because mags for them are less common than mags for an m4 also.

ALSO, I talked about pistols and not the M4 because in my opinion, it should be easier to find a pistol and mag than and SKS/Mosin/Blazer.  Now, another thing about those guns, is that they don't require clips, but they're easy to find, which is why people are more likely to be running around with those loaded rifles than a pistol...

 

 

 

 

Who the hell stores or leaves laying around a pistol or anything else with a Mag in it

Most people that own a gun have their mags AT LEAST in the same room as the gun.

Growing up, my dad kept his gun in a bag in the closet, the same mags rubber banded together and ammo kept in a locked box, still in the same bag, which is similar to how MOST people have their guns.

other ways would be clips out of the gun, but loaded in case of emergency, etc, but obviously still in the same vicinity, because what the fuck is the point of owning a gun if u have your gun in your home, but your mags somewhere else.... 

The reason I said mag in the gun, with or without ammo in the mag, is because of the circumstance. Zombie apocalypse, people who own guns, most likely loaded them and used them or prepared themselves to use them before being killed or running off or somehow losing their weapon.

 

 

I seem to find enough pistol Mags,you need to really look and loot and loot again and again...

but there there enough I seem to be able to eventually have two Mags for each pistol I carry,including the Amphibia mag

 

I dont think thy need to make the game even easier than it already is to get armed to the teeth as it does not take much to get armed

if anything...they should make it even harder to get armed

 

Most stuff at Military bases and airfields have been looted by server hoppers I seem to find at least and kind of irates me as I spend countless hours running from one to another just to usually always find the places looted.Quite often I will be trying to loot,and someone will log in right in the next room lol

 

 

The Mags are out there,for all the guns in game... you just need to look harder!

If u just camp around military bases constantly and probably hop servers to freshly restarted ones, then sure, you'll find some mags.

The fact that you have to camp military bases for civ. weapon clips seems ridiculous though.  By the time you find mags, you already have a loaded M4 or Mosin or SKS too, which is the gun your going to use first.

Pistols should be easier to get equipped with than those rifles.  Also, there would be a hell of a lot less people camping out those military bases, if those civ. pistols and mags spawn in other places besides military bases.

 

I get that if you look hard enough, you can find the mags, but my point is that the player shouldn't have to, it should be easier to find a pistol with ammo and a mag than a high powered rifle with ammo.

 

Hell most of the time I'm equipped with a sawed off, fire ax, and some high powered rifle with plenty of ammo before I find mags for all the pistols I have and I don't get the pistols because I prefer them in combat situations or anything, I get them because I hardly ever get to shoot them from the lack of mags.

[So Sexy 259]

If weapons would spawn with mags, the game would be even easier than it already is.

[srgntpepper 85]

If weapons would spawn with mags, the game would be even easier than it already is.

I said pistols, not weapons.

All I'm saying, is that people with weapons they are shooting are shooting rifles because they're easy to get equipped with, instead of having high powered rifles they're sniping people with, wouldn't it be easier to deal with if they're shooting pistols.  It takes quite a few bullets to drop someone with a pistol right now, that would even give people with melee weapons a chance to kill the shooter without being killed

 

Also, why couldn't the mags spawn without ammo?

Edited March 24, 2014 by srgnt.pepper

[So Sexy 259]

I said pistols, not weapons.

All I'm saying, is that people with weapons they are shooting are shooting rifles because they're easy to get equipped with, instead of having high powered rifles they're sniping people with, wouldn't it be easier to deal with if they're shooting pistols. It takes quite a few bullets to drop someone with a pistol right now, that would even give people with melee weapons a chance to kill the shooter without being killed

Also, why couldn't the mags spawn without ammo?

1.pistol is a weapon too.

2.People will always prefer rifles over any other weapon, you would have to seriously decrease rifle spawn ratio and increase pistol one for them to have a big impact on the game (Im in favor of that)

3.pistol mags are rare (not the revolver speedloaders), I would see them spawning inside weapons only if point 2 is implimented, otherwise it wont make a difference, since we have sks, shotgun and m4 for close quarters, and they are extremely easy to obtain (again point 2 would solve this)

[srgntpepper 85]

1.pistol is a weapon too.

2.People will always prefer rifles over any other weapon, you would have to seriously decrease rifle spawn ratio and increase pistol one for them to have a big impact on the game (Im in favor of that)

3.pistol mags are rare (not the revolver speedloaders), I would see them spawning inside weapons only if point 2 is implimented, otherwise it wont make a difference, since we have sks, shotgun and m4 for close quarters, and they are extremely easy to obtain (again point 2 would solve this)

A pistol is a weapon, but it is a specific weapon.  Using the word weapon generalizes what I am talking about and includes some weapons I am not talking about

For your second point, that is exactly what I think should happen, the frequency and places outside of military bases that all the rifles spawn at, in my opinion should be replaced with pistol spawns and all the places pistols spawn at right now, should be replaced with the rifle spawns.  That alone would increase the ratio of pistols to rifles.

 

So what I am saying is

 

1. make pistol spawns as common and rifle spawns currently are

2. make rifle spawns as common as pistol spawns are currently (which isn't crazy rare, but not incredibly common either). Maybe even make them a little less common than that.

3. spawn mags either in the pistol or in the same vicinity, both full or empty mags (sometimes even without a mag-rare case)

Edited March 24, 2014 by srgnt.pepper

[SGT. Kalme 106]

It would make sense if pistols would be found with magazine attached - even if it was empty.

 

Gave my beans already.

[thefriendlydutchman 160]

One thing that seems very strange to me is that pistols spawn without the magazine.  Who the hell owns a pistol, but doesn't have the magazine for it.  I like how the magazine system works though, how you attach it to the gun and take it out to reload it, but the spawning system for it is ridiculous and immersion breaking.  I don't think you should be able to find everything with the gun: a full clip with a box of ammo nearby, or attachments and mods, but anyone who owns a gun has AT LEAST one magazine.

 

Currently, it seems like the player can find all different kinds of ammo and the gun to go with them, but magazines are insanely rare for some reason.

 

I suggest that guns spawn with just one magazine attached.  The mag can be full or empty and I would actually prefer there to be randomly both options(maybe the owner used the clip on some zombies).  I don't think any of the guns need to spawn with snap loaders or anything, but magazines should definitely be in or near the gun, it is silly finding a bunch of pistols with no magazines....like they magically disappeared.

 

I am mostly suggesting this for pistols, they seem to be the biggest problem to find magazines for.  I haven't even seen the Amphibia mag yet...

 

EDIT: This post is about PISTOL magazines NOT weapon magazines, some people think I am talking about weapons in general

 

How about fkng bullets they should do that sometimes a weapon spawns with 3-10 bullets depending on the weapon

[srgntpepper 85]

Ya, I was saying both empty and full clips should be able to spawn, honestly though, it's so easy to find ammo for pistols.  They're everywhere

[Mos1ey 6301]

I think they should be able to spawn either empty, with an empty mag or with a random amount of ammo loaded. Variety is the spice of life.