3pp Exploit

[savini 587]

I keep seeing people refer to 3pp as an exploit or just looking down on 3pp in general and I can't help but wonder why. It seems completely ridiculous. So ridiculous in fact that I wonder if it's a joke.

 

Do some people consider 3pp an exploit? Along the same lines as jumping into walls?

 

It's as silly as saying people who crouch behind walls are exploiting the game. Absurd isn't it?

 

3pp is part of the game, I mean...it's there...built in, part of the controls. Everyone is just as able to use it as anyone else. If you choose not to make use of it, then I guarantee the person you're in a fight with will be. If you choose to limit yourself then that's on you.

 

The thing I don't understand is why people look down on 3pp when it is completely optional. There are two separate hives for servers that allow 3pp and servers that are 1pp only. If you don't like 3pp, you can stick to the hardcore servers.

 

Not to mention, if the game is 'meant' to be 1pp only...don't you think they would force hardcore servers only? Why deal with separate hives when they could just have the one that you're 'supposed' to play.

 

I just don't get why there is so much hate for 'regular' servers, when it's totally optional. It's like me getting mad at someone because they don't like the same color as me.

 

I am genuinely curious about the 3pp hate. I've stated where I stand on this 'issue', and now I'm curious to hear from those who do not like 3pp. Particularly those who consider it an exploit or just look down on those who use it. I'm absolutely open minded to hear your thoughts. Orlok's thread has an interesting idea about 'fixing' 3pp. I think that is a pretty good idea.

 

However, I've noticed people calling 3pp an 'exploit' for quite awhile before today.

 

As I stated, I'm curious to hear from those who consider 3pp an exploit.

 

[For clarification, I personally play both. My more 'serious' character is on the hardcore hive, whilst my more 'adventurous' character is on the regular hive]

[ChiefMasterKush 321]

Everytime I hear someone say that 3pp is exploit, I wonder... Why not play on Hardcore servers?

[Martmital 436]

I thought better of you Rhodes... why, why you start such a thread.  You make me sad.

[quantum2k6 348]

Everytime I hear someone say that 3pp is exploit, I wonder... Why not play on Hardcore servers?

1000%

[SerasVictoria (DayZ) 13]

aren't they talking about seing trough walls glitches?

[savini 587]

How do you mean?

 

I want to understand why people consider 3pp an exploit? I just don't get it.

[quantum2k6 348]

he swift into the old discussion of 3pp pro or contra...

 

wuzz up rhodes take too much beer tonight? ;)

 

greetings :beans:

 

Edit after your post above:

 

dude let them whine... its ingame and devs want it there otherwise it  getting removed... spmply thats it... handle it or play hc i told everyone in my group.

 

i play only HC with my group, and love the exp...

Edited March 11, 2014 by quantum2k6

[savini 587]

aren't they talking about seing trough walls glitches?

 

I don't know.

 

I assumed they meant just going into 3pp was an exploit.

 

If it's the 'looking through the wall' exploit, then I totally understand that.

[Martmital 436]

Seeing without reveling yourself while in cover is the biggest gripe.  End of.  The rest of it is just politics.

 

You been around long enough and seen enough threads to know this by now Rhodes. 

[solodude23 649]

Simple misuse of terminology derived from personal bias.

 

While I don't like the use of 3PP and you'll never see me on a normal server, I don't consider it an "exploit".

Edited March 11, 2014 by solodude23

[captain_finnish 134]

Seeing without reveling yourself while in cover is the biggest gripe. End of. The rest of it is just politics.

You been around long enough and seen enough threads to know this by now Rhodes.

Enough said

[savini 587]

oh wait...

 

Let me make it clear that I don't think 3pp is an exploit. Using it to see through the wall is, but just using 3pp isn't an exploit.

 

I'm wondering why others consider 3pp in general as an exploit.

 

I know it's long, but surely you don't think I'm against 3pp.

[savini 587]

Seeing without reveling yourself while in cover is the biggest gripe.  End of.  The rest of it is just politics.

 

You been around long enough and seen enough threads to know this by now Rhodes. 

 

Fair enough.

 

I can dig

[GrappleX 354]

Condescension from hardcore only players in 3....2....1.....

[Crooked Hauser 258]

I think this fix is great. I've been calling for a 3pp "fog of war" solution for literally days. I also only play on hardcore servers because of 3pp advantages. I prefer 1pp. Point being... Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Edited March 11, 2014 by Crooked Hauser

[Martmital 436]

I think this fix is great. I've been calling for a 3pp "fog of war" solution for literally days. I also only play on hardcore servers because of 3pp exploits. I prefer 1pp. Point being... Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

 

If they fixed it would you play in 3PP?

[DarkwaveDomina 1099]

I play hardcore and while I think 3PP is a joke I too get tired of people slinging around the words "exploit" and "cheat" on this forum for things that don't even remotely meet the definition. See: People who call VOIP software cheating, referring to it as "Cheatspeak" and so on, there are no words honestly.

[antonioajc 500]

If they fixed it would you play in 3PP?

I don't think so since you wouldn't know that there's an enemy around the corner and I don't think that firing from the hip is great on 3pp. :)

Edited March 11, 2014 by AntonioAJC

[Igglas Cage 173]

I don't like sardines on my pizza, thats why I don't order them.

Pizza with sardines = 3pp

Pizza without sardines = Hardcore

I hope that helps :)

Edited March 11, 2014 by Igglas Cage

[cav_guy 62]

I'm a 1pp'er (is that a real term?) who only plays on hardcore servers.  3pp, aside from the wall glitches, isn't an exploit, it's just not realistic.  That's my two cents, for what it's worth.  I doesn't matter that both sides in a fight can use it, it's still not realistic. 

 

That being said, as long as it's in the game, it's a legitimate tactic, that's why I stay on hardcore.  I'm fine with the way things are now:  one hive for 1pp and another for 3pp.  I think it's a great solution.

 

As to "why all the hate"?  It's the internet.  Everyone has to complain about something :)

[Crooked Hauser 258]

If they fixed it would you play in 3PP?

Let's just say I would play in non-HC servers again to have "two" characters. But I would keep my view in 1PP as that's my preferred method.

[hellcat420 212]

I keep seeing people refer to 3pp as an exploit or just looking down on 3pp in general and I can't help but wonder why. It seems completely ridiculous. So ridiculous in fact that I wonder if it's a joke.

 

Do some people consider 3pp an exploit? Along the same lines as jumping into walls?

 

It's as silly as saying people who crouch behind walls are exploiting the game. Absurd isn't it?

 

3pp is part of the game, I mean...it's there...built in, part of the controls. Everyone is just as able to use it as anyone else. If you choose not to make use of it, then I guarantee the person you're in a fight with will be. If you choose to limit yourself then that's on you.

 

The thing I don't understand is why people look down on 3pp when it is completely optional. There are two separate hives for servers that allow 3pp and servers that are 1pp only. If you don't like 3pp, you can stick to the hardcore servers.

 

Not to mention, if the game is 'meant' to be 1pp only...don't you think they would force hardcore servers only? Why deal with separate hives when they could just have the one that you're 'supposed' to play.

 

I just don't get why there is so much hate for 'regular' servers, when it's totally optional. It's like me getting mad at someone because they don't like the same color as me.

 

I am genuinely curious about the 3pp hate. I've stated where I stand on this 'issue', and now I'm curious to hear from those who do not like 3pp. Particularly those who consider it an exploit or just look down on those who use it. I'm absolutely open minded to hear your thoughts. Orlok's thread has an interesting idea about 'fixing' 3pp. I think that is a pretty good idea.

 

However, I've noticed people calling 3pp an 'exploit' for quite awhile before today.

 

As I stated, I'm curious to hear from those who consider 3pp an exploit.

 

[For clarification, I personally play both. My more 'serious' character is on the hardcore hive, whilst my more 'adventurous' character is on the regular hive]

your missing the most important thing. who the fuck cares. people like to bitch about things, especially on the internet. i bet most people who complain about one way or the other don't really give a shit either way, they just want something to argue about.

[Martmital 436]

Let's just say I would play in non-HC servers again to have "two" characters. But I would keep my view in 1PP as that's my preferred method.

 

I mean't the view, not the server.  But I already knew what the answer would be.  It's nothing but a personal preference.  Allow 3PP in 'hardcore' servers with the 'fog of war' enabled and I'd most likely play in them. 

[elLoCo 154]

How do you mean?

 

I want to understand why people consider 3pp an exploit? I just don't get it.

You can exploit 3pp by leaning against a wall to look through ^^

[Martmital 436]

You can exploit 3pp by leaning against a wall to look through ^^

 

Both views have it's glitches.