Admins Shutting Servers Down When They Get Killed

[cobraneo 7]

I have had this happen to me on at least 5 occasions.

 

Me and my 2 friends joined a server just after it restarted, then about 15 mins later we came across 2 geared players, soon as we killed them the server restarted, when we rejoined we spawned about 30 secs prior to fire fight.

 

I have also joined a server with 6 players on it, every time I joined it within 1-2 mins the server would restart, this happened 10 times, and every time it rolled back 20-30 secs. Then the server admin sent a message saying Neo wtf you doing.

 

So Yea the server defo rolls back a little bit.

[Crazy Ivan (DayZ) 15]

This is against the rules, which you have yet to read. Hop to it. I already gave you the link. 

Ya Think?

 

I know the rules I do not run my server that way I came here to see if it was worth it to me to keep paying the bills for a server and I have to ask my self why should I pay $65 a month for players like you to use the server hopping exploit to gain an unfair in game advantage that is affecting players in a server-disruptive way. Players who would like to play on a server can not enjoy their game experience because some player’s server hop to farm loot. Please log on to my server so I can ban you.

[Bubbled Luff 27]

Bubbled Luff

I am sure you are correct. I have no clue as when to reset my server to do this so to say a admin can do it at will is a little out there. (I am not saying you said this can be done.) I am agreeing with you that there has to be some latency and it is impossible for a admin to know when to shut down the server, I have read in the mod version from the Arma series there are private hives that the admen’s could roll back because they were stored on the admen’s server but the standalone server has one hive and no publicly leased server admen can control it in any way.

Hi dude. I'm not arguing or anything, no worries. Just posting for discussions sake. This is the first game I've paid to host a server on, so my experience in this area is based on a couple of months with one hosting company.

It seems though, from what I've read on this forum, that the facilities provided to Admins vary between hosting companies. In game, the facilities are very limited at present. But the 'control panel' we have access to via browser or whatever does appear to vary in terms of controls depending on who you pay your money to: restart schedules, specific time setting, right down to the basics of starting and stopping etc. makes for interesting discussion and hopefully enlightens us all, admins and users alike.

Personally, my reason for hosting was to have a reliable, reasonably local (better ping) server where I could play in perpetual daylight (yes I'm a massive pussy). Since then, things like the in-game time have been added to the server list which makes that last reason moot - but - I have made in-game friends who I now play with on this server, so I continue to pay for it. I don't farm it because end-game gears just made me reclusive, I enjoy the social aspects of the game and hiding got boring fast.

Edited February 26, 2014 by Bubbled Luff

[Crazy Ivan (DayZ) 15]

I experienced this earlier. Me and a buddy got shot at Balota airfield. My friend went down but I hid behind a building to the right of the first prison. Killed one guy but there was at least another, maybe two.

We were in a bit of a standoff until I peaked round a corner and shot another guy. Two seconds later I get the 'you have been kicked from the server'. I log back in and I'm a fresh spawn on the coast. I could have lagged out and they luckily pushed up and killed me. Or they kicked me, then ran up to my body knowing I wasn't there and killed me. The latter seems much more likely.

I reported the server but without proof there's nothing they can do :(

dude you can play on my server all day long and you will not get treated like that you can kill me all day long if that’s what you desire but I will not tolerate server hoppers so I keep a list and will ban them.

[Solopopo 330]

Ya Think?

 

I know the rules I do not run my server that way I came here to see if it was worth it to me to keep paying the bills for a server and I have to ask my self why should I pay $65 a month for players like you to use the server hopping exploit to gain an unfair in game advantage that is affecting players in a server-disruptive way. Players who would like to play on a server can not enjoy their game experience because some player’s server hop to farm loot. Please log on to my server so I can ban you.

Server hopping is not the topic of this thread. Take your half-baked rants somewhere else. And for fuck sake read the link I gave you so you can have some kind of idea what you are talking about. I'm done responding to you. If you want to continue to bump my thread go ahead. It's the only thing you've contributed thus far. I would happily accept that ban. I have no desire to ever encounter you in game.  Your conduct is deplorable, and so is your writing. 

Edited February 26, 2014 by Solopopo

[CrazyCorky 40]

dude you can play on my server all day long and you will not get treated like that you can kill me all day long if that’s what you desire but I will not tolerate server hoppers so I keep a list and will ban them.

 

I've started doing the same thing. So tired of server hoppers.

[Bubbled Luff 27]

I've started doing the same thing. So tired of server hoppers.

I haven't gone this far, but agree that a looted server is less appealing to 'normal' players who want want to stay around for a few hours (and hopefully come back to my server next time).

[Highlander007 249]

dude you can play on my server all day long and you will not get treated like that you can kill me all day long if that’s what you desire but I will not tolerate server hoppers so I keep a list and will ban them.

How in the name of Zeus almighty can you tell a 'server hopper' from someone that joined your server with a wish to play proper, when you kick him as soon as he joins ?

[Solopopo 330]

How in the name of Zeus almighty can you tell a 'server hopper' from someone that joined your server with a wish to play proper, when you kick him as soon as he joins ?

Don't even go there dude. If you start picking away at his arguments you'll be here till summer. Logic is lost on this guy. Engaging him is just a waste of time. 

Edited February 26, 2014 by Solopopo

[Bubbled Luff 27]

How in the name of Zeus almighty can you tell a 'server hopper' from someone that joined your server with a wish to play proper, when you kick him as soon as he joins ?

Restart server, log in and watch player list. First 10 mins massive turnover of players (After that things slow down). Actually occurs around the start of every hour (server hoppers know that most hosting companies only allow you to set the 'custom time' to a specific hour).

Not trying to argue but that's how it's done.

Edit for punctuation

Edited February 26, 2014 by Bubbled Luff

[Crazy Ivan (DayZ) 15]

You are not "sure" he is correct. You are not sure of anything. Not until you read the admin guide which contains all of the correct answers to the questions you are bullshitting about. You haven't even figured out how to reset your own server, yet you spout all this bullshit? You take sides on issues that you don't understand at all? Wow, just wow. At least I know who I'm dealing with now. Come back when you know what you are talking about man. You have nothing to contribute to this thread as of now. I mean that respectfully. 

I will make you a deal I will re read the "server admin rules" if you read the rules about not using exploits to gain an in game advantage. and you might want to get your head out of your ass and read what is being said

“You are not "sure" he is correct. You are not sure of anything. Not until you read the admin guide which contains all of the correct answers to the questions you are bullshitting about. You haven't even figured out how to reset your own server, yet you spout all this bullshit? You take sides on issues that you don't understand at all? Wow, just wow. At least I know who I'm dealing with now. Come back when you know what you are talking about man. You have nothing to contribute to this thread as of now. I mean that respectfully. 

This is what I said dumbass

I am sure you are correct. I have no clue as when to reset my server to do this so to say a admin can do it at will is a little out there. (I am not saying you said this can be done.) I am agreeing with you that there has to be some latency and it is impossible for a admin to know when to shut down the server, I have read in the mod version from the Arma series there are private hives that the admen’s could roll back because they were stored on the admen’s server but the standalone server has one hive and no publicly leased server admen can control it in any way. 

Where did you get the “You are not "sure" he is correct from” oh you just made it up so you can argue with someone.

“You haven't even figured out how to reset your own server”

I guess this comes from discussion

“I have no clue as when to reset my server to do this so to say a admin can do it at will is a little out there”

in response to his statement

 “Question is though, how frequently does the server report to the hive? Every one second? Every thirty seconds? Every 60 seconds? I don't know the answer, but would guess there is a degree of latency.

Interrupt server before it updates your death to the hive and bingo, you never died?  

Doesn’t mean I do not know how to Stop, Start my server (dumbass)

You are a sorry ass cheating punk who thinks he is the baddest cat in the alley and you are not shit with out cheating.

your mother is still calling you get lost little boy.

[Highlander007 249]

Restart server, log in and watch player list. First 10 mins massive turnover of players (After that things slow down). Actually occurs around the start of every hour (server hoppers know that most hosting companies only allow you to set the 'custom time' to a specific hour).

Not trying to argue but that's how it's done.

Edit for punctuation

So you kick off everyone that joins your server on the start of every hour when you're there?

Edited February 26, 2014 by Highlander007

[Crazy Ivan (DayZ) 15]

I've started doing the same thing. So tired of server hoppers.

Maybe I will scrap my server and play on yours (as long as you don’t server hopping cheaters.

[Solopopo 330]

I will make you a deal I will re read the "server admin rules" if you read the rules about not using exploits to gain an in game advantage. and you might want to get your head out of your ass and read what is being said

 

I will put as much consideration into your arguments as you put into writing them, which is almost none at all. Server hopping is not against the rules. Sorry pal. Try again.

 

Copying the entire thread back to me is not helpful. I know what was said already. I can hardly decipher where your copying ends and what you actually wrote yourself begins. 

 

"Doesn’t mean I do not know how to Stop, Start my server (dumbass)"

 

No, but you coming out and directly saying you don't know how does. 

 

Please stop with the insults. You're just embarrassing yourself. Badly. 

 

I have absolutely no desire to make a deal with you. Do what you want. 

 

Edit:

 

I've identified the problem, and I can now see what you mean.

 

"I have no clue as when to reset my server to do this so to say a admin can do it at will is a little out there."

 

You're sentences make no sense. Work on that, or for the rest of your life be misunderstood. You need to learn how to punctuate your sentences. Take care of that before you spew one more accusation of me being the child, because it is clear that you are the young person here. At least I really hope you are for your sake. 

Edited February 26, 2014 by Solopopo

[Bubbled Luff 27]

So you kick off everyone that joins your server on the start of every hour when you're there?

No, I don't (and frankly can't be arsed) to do that. But it's my observation.

Best thing really to come will be respawning loot so I don 'to even have to bother fiddling with any controls at all!

Like I said previously I only even bothered to pay for hosting so I could play in perpetual daylight! :) only in this thread to share my experience and answer some questions people had.

[Highlander007 249]

No, I don't (and frankly can't be arsed) to do that. But it's my observation.

Best thing really to come will be respawning loot so I don 'to even have to bother fiddling with any controls at all!

Like I said previously I only even bothered to pay for hosting so I could play in perpetual daylight! :) only in this thread to share my experience and answer some questions people had.

Respawning loot would be the best thing, also randomizing loot spawns even more would help greatly. Finding certain guns in more than 2 types of buildings would bring that elemen of anticipation back to the game. Rocket will do most of this shit I'm sure

Edited February 26, 2014 by Highlander007

[Crazy Ivan (DayZ) 15]

How in the name of Zeus almighty can you tell a 'server hopper' from someone that joined your server with a wish to play proper, when you kick him as soon as he joins ?

If you had bothered to read my post it states I keep pressing the “P” key this list all the players in the game, I then Wright all the names down during my game play I keep checking the player list and adding names as they appear I also take note of any one who has logged off. So servers reset every 4 hours unfortunately they even list the exact times it would be nice if it was random but it is not. Servers restart every 4 hours starting at 12:00 any one can do the math on that. So John Doe logs in right after my server resets with in 30 minutes he has logged of Hmm, 4 hours John Doe logs back in and with in 30 min logs off Hmm smells like server hopping to me John Doe number 2 logs in and 2 hours later he logs off seems to me he was there to play a game not exploit it.

[Solopopo 330]

If you had bothered to read my post it states I keep pressing the “P” key this list all the players in the game, I then Wright all the names down during my game play I keep checking the player list and adding names as they appear I also take note of any one who has logged off. So servers reset every 4 hours unfortunately they even list the exact times it would be nice if it was random but it is not. Servers restart every 4 hours starting at 12:00 any one can do the math on that. So John Doe logs in right after my server resets with in 30 minutes he has logged of Hmm, 4 hours John Doe logs back in and with in 30 min logs off Hmm smells like server hopping to me John Doe number 2 logs in and 2 hours later he logs off seems to me he was there to play a game not exploit it.

It's hard to read your posts when they stop making sense 5 words in. Stop being so aggressive. Especially when it's your own fault for being misunderstood. 

 

"If you had bothered to read my post it states I keep pressing the “P” key this list all the players in the game, I then Wright all the names down during my game play I keep checking the player list and adding names as they appear I also take note of any one who has logged off."

 

For the love of Christ! I don't know where to begin. Let me fix that abomination of a sentence for you

 

If you had bothered to read my post COMMA, it states that I keep pressing the "P" key COMMA, WHICH lists all the players in the game (PEROID). I then WRITE (not Wright) all the names down during my game play PERIOD. I keep checking the player list and adding names as they appear PEROID. I also take note of anyone (one word) who has logged off.

 

Jeez, that was a doozy! Now is that so hard? If it is you must be in third grade, in which case you have no business playing this M rated game. This is a grown persons game son, and grown people know how to spell. If you want to hang out with the grown ups you are going to have to at least try to form proper simple sentences. 

Edited February 27, 2014 by Solopopo

[Highlander007 249]

If you had bothered to read my post it states I keep pressing the “P” key this list all the players in the game, I then Wright all the names down during my game play I keep checking the player list and adding names as they appear I also take note of any one who has logged off. So servers reset every 4 hours unfortunately they even list the exact times it would be nice if it was random but it is not. Servers restart every 4 hours starting at 12:00 any one can do the math on that. So John Doe logs in right after my server resets with in 30 minutes he has logged of Hmm, 4 hours John Doe logs back in and with in 30 min logs off Hmm smells like server hopping to me John Doe number 2 logs in and 2 hours later he logs off seems to me he was there to play a game not exploit it.

That seems a lousy way to spend your free time, micromanaging your server when you should be focusing on enjoying the actual gameplay.

[Bubbled Luff 27]

Respawning loot would be the best thing, also randomizing loot spawns even more would help greatly. Finding certain guns in more than 2 types of buildings would bring that elemen of anticipation back to the game. Rocket will do most of this shit I'm sure

Yep, given time a lot of aspects will (hopefully) improve. Like the displaying of in-game times in the server list, which came along after I started shelling out for a server to get around in the first place! I think that they should actually change that to just a day/night icon personally, as this would help prevent server hopping by not giving an indication that the server had just restarted.

I'm just an inquisitive type person and like figuring out the mechanics of things, that's how I ended up making my observations, maybe I'm a bit odd but that gives me as much entertainment as playing the game if I'm in that mood, but we are paying to playtest at the moment so perhaps it's no bad thing.

Sorry for my edits that messed your post up earlier, but typing on my phone and it loves to auto-correct things without me noticing.

[Crazy Ivan (DayZ) 15]

It's hard to read your posts when they stop making sense 5 words in. Stop being so aggressive. Especially when it's your own fault for being misunderstood. 

 

"If you had bothered to read my post it states I keep pressing the “P” key this list all the players in the game, I then Wright all the names down during my game play I keep checking the player list and adding names as they appear I also take note of any one who has logged off."

 

For the love of Christ! I don't know where to begin. Let me fix that abomination of a sentence for you

 

If you had bothered to read my post COMMA, it states that I keep pressing the "P" key COMMA, WHICH lists all the players in the game (PEROID). I then WRITE (not Wright) all the names down during my game play PERIOD. I keep checking the player list and adding names as they appear PEROID. I also take note of anyone (one word) who has logged off.

 

Jeez that was a doozy. Ok

Ok let me slow down for you. (Stop) speed reading through posts is not good. (Stop) can you understand me now? (Stop) Also I thought you were done talking to me. (Stop)

[Crazy Ivan (DayZ) 15]

That seems a lousy way to spend your free time, micromanaging your server when you should be focusing on enjoying the actual gameplay.

That’s my point stop the server hoppers and everyone can enjoy the game because there will be supplies for the “honest” players to use.

[Solopopo 330]

Ok let me slow down for you. (Stop) speed reading through posts is not good. (Stop) can you understand me now? (Stop) Also I thought you were done talking to me. (Stop)

I can understand you, thank you! Although you forgot to capitalize two sentences, despite your best efforts. Putting words in parenthesis does not change the structure of a sentence. That's why parenthesis are used. We're making progress! I'm done engaging you in any meaningful discussion - because you have proven yourself incapable of maintaining a meaningful discussion - but I'm more than happy to correct your sloppy grammar. If you continue to make sense, I may even help you organize your thoughts into a proper paragraph!

 

Grammar is important kid. I am going to address you as kid from hear on out, because you have made your age difference very clear without intending to. Here's a life lesson for you, and never forget it: people do not take other people who cannot spell seriously. Soon enough people are going to start making fun of you. Maybe they already are. It sure would explain your aggression. Stupid people can't spell. You're not stupid are you?  

Edited February 27, 2014 by Solopopo

[CrazyCorky 40]

Ok so it's against the rules for a admin to restart their server in hopes of getting their gear back. We got that point.

 

(I don't give a shit what this post was orginally about)

 

Though it may not be against the rules to server hop to regear after dying.. it sure is a pussy ass move instead of staying on the server you died on. Hell I bet if you skip Elektro and Cherno/Balota and go to Military base above Kamenka it won't be looted. Nor would Zelengorsk.

 

You want to stop the admins abusing their powers... Then become an admin yourself. Run your own server the "moral" way.

[Crazy Ivan (DayZ) 15]

Respawning loot would be the best thing, also randomizing loot spawns even more would help greatly. Finding certain guns in more than 2 types of buildings would bring that elemen of anticipation back to the game. Rocket will do most of this shit I'm sure

This is so true, for example the long range scope, why only have it spawn in hangers and barracks, why can a player not find one any where else on the map, its not like no one had a long range scope that didn’t die some place other than a barracks or a hanger. Loot should spawn more often and in different locations. I have a long range scope sitting in my living room, if there was a nuclear war some one searching houses in my town would find it and say hell yah.