Ammo for rare guns.

[Eldo (DayZ) 7]

If you've ever found a gun such as the Bizon or the FN FAL you know how scarce ammo is, and the only time you ever find it is when you find the gun again and even then you will most likely get around one or two magazines. So my suggestion is that both magazines for those guns should spawn on military zombies and helicopter pilot zombies. At least this will make the weapons better, as currently because of their scarce ammo they are almost void of all purpose.

tl;dr Military zombies drop rare ammo?

Edit: What about it spawning in very rare ammo boxes occasionally, or drop one or two mags of each ammo extremely rarely in barracks? It's just too ridiculous to find ammo for these rare guns by finding the same exact gun (Which is very difficult to locate.) just to find one or two magazines.

[Soldier of Failure 14]

Sure.

[ground_sniper 0]

Spent 6 hours looking for m1a4 ammo only found one clip, so i have to agree.

[Soldier of Failure 14]

m1a4? Ive never heard of that gun.

[MinxinG 50]

I think he meant M4A1, but yeah, I think every gun found, needs to come with at least a clip, I've found a FAL, but I knew that finding Ammo for that gun wasnt going to be hard, it was going to be impossible, so I've switched back to my M4A1 CCO and moved on. Thats a sad thing about DayZ, Rare Weapons dont have Rare Ammo anywhere.

[Osiris1 0]

Yes.

Sounds reasonable, especially if you have to go rambo zombie-kill to get the ammo.

[naizarak 41]

no it's fine the way it is now. you're supposed to be low on ammo and value every bullet as a result. don't waste everything killing zombies and then complain that you can't find any more.

[Dreganius (DayZ) 55]

naizarak, the point isn't that they're wasting ammo, it's that their ammunition is so scarce that they're too worried to use the weapon's scarce ammo, thereby making such rare, powerful weapons redundant.

It's an issue I agree needs a little bit of a fix, and the OP has a reasonable way of doing so. The ammunition needn't be common, but could be very rarely found on military zombies and pilots.

[tremanarch 42]

easy solution: dont shoot so much..

only reason: fucked up zombie encounter or banditry

in both cases you dont deserve the gun anyway...

[Eldo (DayZ) 7]

no it's fine the way it is now. you're supposed to be low on ammo and value every bullet as a result. don't waste everything killing zombies and then complain that you can't find any more.

I'd like to reiterate what Dreganius said, the AS50 and the L85 are great because they use somewhat easily found ammo, but the two other weapons I listed previously only have ammo found with the weapon, and no more ammo of that type can be found anywhere else. I agree with you, every bullet should count, and I imagine that Rocket will make other types of ammo more scarce, but the ammo for those two guns are simply to difficult to find, and that's what makes them next to useless. I'd rather have an M16 with several magazines of STANAG ammo than have a FN FAL with nothing.

[TheProphecy 33]

I have the rarest weapon in the game according to the wiki (probably not accurate, but whatev), the FN FAL ANPV S4. The problem is, I have one clip for it and the ammo can only be found at other crashed heli sites, making the gun a burden instead of an incredible asset.

[Eldo (DayZ) 7]

I have the rarest weapon in the game according to the wiki (probably not accurate' date=' but whatev), the FN FAL ANPV S4. The problem is, I have one clip for it and the ammo can only be found at other crashed heli sites, making the gun a burden instead of an incredible asset.

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Exactly, the guns ammo should spawn very rarely on zombies or even ammo boxes in barracks or in military areas. The only way to find ammo for these great guns is to scourge Chernarus for helicopter crashes where you would have to find your exact gun because the ammo will only spawn on FN FALs, which is already hard enough considering how rare the FN FAL is listed on the loot cheat sheet.

[Alex519 1]

Guys, they are rare for a reason. Don't complain that you cannot find ammo. If you run out of ammo, trash the gun or keep it, it's your choice. Anyone can have a very productive time with an m16, akm, ak-74, etc. Rare guns are just icing on the cake. It's a survival game not COD.

[Eldo (DayZ) 7]

Guys' date=' they are rare for a reason. Don't complain that you cannot find ammo. If you run out of ammo, trash the gun or keep it, it's your choice. Anyone can have a very productive time with an m16, akm, ak-74, etc. Rare guns are just icing on the cake. It's a survival game not COD.

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The point is is that there isn't any ammo for these guns and the only ammo for them only come with the gun itself. We are saying it should spawn in other areas otherwise the bizon and the FN FAL are completely useless. The AS50 uses M107 ammo so ammo for the AS50 is relatively easy to find, while the bizon and FN FAL only have a very low percentage around helicopter crashes. All we are saying is that ammo for the guns should be able to be found in other places, although I love the spawn rate of these guns, they should be rare, but the ammo shouldn't be as rare as the gun itself.

[Virfortis 111]

All guns need to be super rare, with super rare ammo. The only reason for guns to be this common is if it's to encourage spraying at random.

When you're loaded up as Commando, it's hard to think before shooting.

[Disgraced 1123]

Asking for more ammo for your rare weapon is like the new players asking for a weapon to start...

Deal with it and get a weapon with more common ammo. It's not a trophy contest where we need you to show off your leet weapon.

Part of reality is less ammo for those weapons.

Should lower geared players ask for more pistol spawns?

[hurka 0]

Found 2 crashed helicopters today, first had fn fal without ammo , second had bison sd without ammo.

Because of the rarity of the gun, I put the fn fal to my backpack, just to carry it to one of my tents.

I approve. Barracks or other rare FIX place should have the chance to spawn ammo for fal.

It could be on an island, so it would be still almost as hard as trying to find random heli crashes...

[Eldo (DayZ) 7]

Asking for more ammo for your rare weapon is like the new players asking for a weapon to start...

Deal with it and get a weapon with more common ammo. It's not a trophy contest where we need you to show off your leet weapon.

Part of reality is less ammo for those weapons.

Should lower geared players ask for more pistol spawns?

I'm not asking my FN FAL to spawn with 10 mags readily available' date=' I'm suggesting an alternative for finding ammo for the heli-crash guns, such as on zombies and in barracks. I'm not saying that we have the guns spawn there, I'm saying the ammo should spawn there, very rarely ofcourse, so if you find a FN FAL or a Bizon you can actually find ammo. I don't see how lower geared players asking for more pistol spawns even closely relates to what I'm suggesting. In all honesty I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say.

"Deal with it and get a weapon with more common ammo. It's not a trophy contest where we need you to show off your leet weapon."

I'm not trying to brag or win a "trophy contest", I'm suggesting that ammo for the rare guns we find be more readily available, otherwise they are useless to the people that manage to find them.

All guns need to be super rare, with super rare ammo. The only reason for guns to be this common is if it's to encourage spraying at random.

When you're loaded up as Commando, it's hard to think before shooting.

I'm not suggesting that ammo for super rare guns be flying out of barracks and spawning in barns, I'm saying the only ammo you can ever get with these guns comes with the guns themselves. These guns only spawn on heli-crashes, and if that wasn't enough the percentage that they even spawn are extremely low. So it makes these new found super weapons near useless, again I agree that ammo shouldn't spawn everywhere, I'm saying ammo should spawn very rarely in places besides just helicopter crashes.

[hombrecz 832]

easy solution: dont shoot so much..

only reason: fucked up zombie encounter or banditry

in both cases you dont deserve the gun anyway...

We thank you for your well thought constructive post....NOT.

Dude to find rifle with only TWO mags when you know,that the only other time you can get more mags is finding it in crashed heli again, its basically not worth taking which is a shame.

[stryker211 10]

Well rocket added the ak-74 ammo as a drop in the loot table not long ago, maybe bizon sd and FAL will be too.

Don't see why FAL mags can't be added in the combine option it is .308 (7.62x51) ammo the same as DMR or M24.

The bizon is pretty rare but should be able to atleast have a higher chance to find ammo for it at crashed choppers atleast.

[Ejaculacid 19]

Well rocket added the ak-74 ammo as a drop in the loot table not long ago' date=' maybe bizon sd and FAL will be too.

Don't see why FAL mags can't be added in the combine option it is .308 (7.62x51) ammo the same as DMR or M24.

The bizon is pretty rare but should be able to atleast have a higher chance to find ammo for it at crashed choppers atleast.

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This game needs ammo boxes, where you can refill the mags you've already collected.

[PinkTaco (DayZ) 2]

FAL and Bizon simply needs to spawn with 10 clips or something. Then you can use it for a decent period before you need to exchange it.

[Sarissofoi 40]

FN FAL use the same ammunition like DMR and M14.

Exactly the same caliber.

So like in the DMR and M24 example or M1911 and revolver example or G17 and M9 example not mention PDW and MP5(whose can use ammo clips from other weapons)

FN FAL should use DMR magazines.

The Bizon on the other hand. Dunno. It is silent weapon with good stats and big magazines.

I think ammo should be possible to find on heli crew zombies and on heli ammo boxes(with M107 ammo FNFAl ammo Stanag ammo and Bizon ammo).

[fml 29]

easy solution: dont shoot so much..

only reason: fucked up zombie encounter or banditry

in both cases you dont deserve the gun anyway...

And why' date=' please oh sweet mother tell me why. Why for one single motherfucking second do you think that the game should help you clean up the ridiculous mess that is your game play by holding your hand and pointing out in giant red letters who you need to avoid and who you can go charging past like a mutt in heat in search of your next eminent and inevitable demise at the hands of zombies.

If you're going to play the game like a bloody idiot, please don't come knocking on rocket's door asking for help. Take the diaper off, grab your favorite soda, sit down, and try really hard to play DayZ again.

....for the sake of the forums and the future of this game, just shut up and click respawn.

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[Dreganius (DayZ) 55]

I find it quite amusing how every post against this suggestion seems to think we're asking for FAL ammo to spawn like Makarov ammo. Are you people seriously so mentally impaired that you fail to realise we're asking for what could be considered a 1% increase in the ammunition spawn rate for these weapons, not asking for them to be spawning like empty cans?

The OP has clearly stated his suggestion, and EVERY post against it exaggerates the OP's suggestion to a degree that makes it sound unreasonable, and then bitches that we're the ones being unreasonable.

FN FAL use the same ammunition like DMR and M14.

Exactly the same caliber.

So like in the DMR and M24 example or M1911 and revolver example or G17 and M9 example not mention PDW and MP5(whose can use ammo clips from other weapons)

FN FAL should use DMR magazines.

This would go hand in hand with the interchangeable ammunition idea found in this thread. I support this.