I just think the blood system needs to go...

[scaramoosh 162]

I don't like the Hunger/Thirst system, it is just something to annoy you and is the same reason why I don't like Project Zomboid. Right now they're just arbitrary pointless systems designed to give you something to do as there is very little content in the game. They aren't even systems you can predict either, sometimes I'll need to eat like every 5 mins and it's like OH FFS! I don't even get why the text comes up to tell you, Breaking Point for ARMA 3 works perfectly fine just using sound effects. At the same time the Blood system is so broken and convoluted right now that I just don't even bother with it. If I'm low on health, It's quicker and easier to go and commit suicide... I don't see the point of having eating and drinking and a blood system.

 

I'd much rather blood was gone, there was health instead and you had to eat to regain health and thirst was there to reduce the shake after long runs and to keep your stamina up. 

 

In fact that's exactly what the Mod was for me..

[byrgesen 1341]

I don't like the Hunger/Thirst system, it is just something to annoy you and is the same reason why I don't like Project Zomboid. Right now they're just arbitrary pointless systems designed to give you something to do as there is very little content in the game. They aren't even systems you can predict either, sometimes I'll need to eat like every 5 mins and it's like OH FFS! I don't even get why the text comes up to tell you, Breaking Point for ARMA 3 works perfectly fine just using sound effects. At the same time the Blood system is so broken and convoluted right now that I just don't even bother with it. If I'm low on health, It's quicker and easier to go and commit suicide... I don't see the point of having eating and drinking and a blood system.

 

I'd much rather blood was gone, there was health instead and you had to eat to regain health and thirst was there to reduce the shake after long runs and to keep your stamina up. 

 

In fact that's exactly what the Mod was for me..

 

Well, they tried to make a much more complex system and ofc its far from polished mate :)

But in the end, it will work a hell of alot better then a simple "eat and get blood" system, as the mod had tbh, which is to easy.

Ofc you are free to think its crap, but with the time they already spend on it, i truly dont believe it will ever get removed again.

 

Now, dare i say it? Alpha ;) Very very very early alpha hehe, expect things to not work, expect your char to die for no reason, expect the game to fuck you over on every possible way atm.

Thats the essence of alpha testing :)

Edited January 23, 2014 by Byrgesen

[Window Licker 504]

People are probably have a go at you for this,

I think it's just fine as is, and feel they are good systems particularly for a survival game. What I did to get around having to eat every 5 mins was loot every item of food I could find, eat it all or until I'm full horde more food, ran about for a bit eat till stuffed again, repeat till my character is healthy once that's done eating becomes a side note and I carry 3-4 cans of food pausing to eat when I feel a good portion of time has passed.

Edited January 23, 2014 by Window Licker

[DeatHTaX 1217]

The only problem I have with the blood system is your blood levels don't regenerate (in my experience) when neither thirsty nor hungry like I have read in multiple places it is supposed to.

 

Not to mention that once you stop the bleeding and eat and drink in real life, your body does this thing where it starts making more red blood cells and plasma :P 

[Twixxer 159]

ya ya take out hunger thirst zombis pls put more gun .50 cal in game pls ghillie add back.

 

On serious note - the game is in alpha. All you are seeing is subject to change. 

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

The only problem I have with the blood system is your blood levels don't regenerate (in my experience) when neither thirsty nor hungry like I have read in multiple places it is supposed to.

 

Not to mention that once you stop the bleeding and eat and drink in real life, your body does this thing where it starts making more red blood cells and plasma :P

 

Not being hungry or thirsty is far from enough to start the healing process, you need to be full. Basically you need to eat a lot (about 8-10 cans or a bag and a half of rice) before it starts regenerating.

[zhrike 264]

The only problem I have with the blood system is your blood levels don't regenerate (in my experience) when neither thirsty nor hungry like I have read in multiple places it is supposed to.

 

Not to mention that once you stop the bleeding and eat and drink in real life, your body does this thing where it starts making more red blood cells and plasma :P

You have the achieve healthy status first, then keep your energy levels up. Once at that point, if you bleed or get hurt you will see a "healing" status and depending on how much energy you had, and how much you lost, the regen is almost immdiate.

[Space Milk 195]

The only problem I have with the blood system is your blood levels don't regenerate (in my experience) when neither thirsty nor hungry like I have read in multiple places it is supposed to.

 

Not to mention that once you stop the bleeding and eat and drink in real life, your body does this thing where it starts making more red blood cells and plasma :P

IRL, you need alot more protein for your body to heal serious wounds.

Means you need ALOT of food

[Etherimp 1323]

1. Blood system is not complex. It's very simple: O- can donate to everyone. AB+ can receive from everyone. Play with friends. Hoard O- blood... Keep yourself healthy so none of this ever becomes an issue. There are dozens of guides all over the internet to help you understand the blood system. Just remember that O can donate to O, A or B, A and B can only donate to themselves, and - can donate to + but + cannot donate to -. That's what, 3 variables? SO COMPLEX! 

 

2. You never have to eat every 5 minutes unless you don't understand how the system works and you're absolutely out of food. 1 bag of rice and 1 trip to a water pump = Healthy status. I often go over an hour without eating/drinking, because I load up on calories and hydrate myself as soon as possible, get healthy status, and then just maintain it by eating/drinking whenever the opportunity presents itself...which is often. There are water pumps ALL over the place and plenty of food spawns in just about every type of building.

 

3. Pro Tip: Find a player with O- Blood type, get them healthy by feeding them a lot and keeping them hydrated.. Now take 3 blood bags off that person. Each bloodbag is 1000 blood, and a fully healthy player carries 5000 blood total.. It will take them about 15-25 minutes to fully regenerate their blood. Meanwhile you have an entire Medi-kit stocked with enough blood to bring 3 people out of unconscious status.

Edited January 23, 2014 by Etherimp

[Blaaaaaaag 75]

The only problem I have with the blood system is your blood levels don't regenerate (in my experience) when neither thirsty nor hungry like I have read in multiple places it is supposed to.

 

Not to mention that once you stop the bleeding and eat and drink in real life, your body does this thing where it starts making more red blood cells and plasma :P

 

I think this is just a case of you're doing it wrong. You need to be in better shape than simply not thirsty or hungry, you need to actually have 'healthy' status, and keep your energy and water up. Seems a lot of people just eat and drink to make the warnings go away, but if you're doing that, you're leaving yourself in pretty rough shape. Those reminders will keep you eating and drinking the bare minimum for survival, as long as you don't lose blood or health, but to be truly healthy and have fast blood and health regeneration, you need to eat and drink a lot more initially, then just keep yourself topped up as you go.

[Mopp_94 29]

I don't like the Hunger/Thirst system, it is just something to annoy you and is the same reason why I don't like Project Zomboid. Right now they're just arbitrary pointless systems designed to give you something to do as there is very little content in the game. They aren't even systems you can predict either, sometimes I'll need to eat like every 5 mins and it's like OH FFS! I don't even get why the text comes up to tell you, Breaking Point for ARMA 3 works perfectly fine just using sound effects. At the same time the Blood system is so broken and convoluted right now that I just don't even bother with it. If I'm low on health, It's quicker and easier to go and commit suicide... I don't see the point of having eating and drinking and a blood system.

 

I'd much rather blood was gone, there was health instead and you had to eat to regain health and thirst was there to reduce the shake after long runs and to keep your stamina up. 

 

In fact that's exactly what the Mod was for me..

 

 

You couldnt be more wrong considering this factor is one of DayZ main integral features that has been in it since day 1 and is never gonna be removed. 

 

You're entitled to your opinion of not liking them thats fine, but they're ever gonna get removed, jus saiyan.

[frosti 2165]

Go back to Call of Duty.

[fitzee 248]

Hi.

 

My only gripe with the blood system is the obvious advantage squad/clan groups have over the lone wolf types. Of course it makes sense to get advantages from group play, but healing from wounds that much faster is a huge difference.

 

Regards.

[weedmasta 784]

I don't like the Hunger/Thirst system, it is just something to annoy you and is the same reason why I don't like Project Zomboid. Right now they're just arbitrary pointless systems designed to give you something to do as there is very little content in the game. They aren't even systems you can predict either, sometimes I'll need to eat like every 5 mins and it's like OH FFS! I don't even get why the text comes up to tell you, Breaking Point for ARMA 3 works perfectly fine just using sound effects. At the same time the Blood system is so broken and convoluted right now that I just don't even bother with it. If I'm low on health, It's quicker and easier to go and commit suicide... I don't see the point of having eating and drinking and a blood system.

 

I'd much rather blood was gone, there was health instead and you had to eat to regain health and thirst was there to reduce the shake after long runs and to keep your stamina up. 

 

In fact that's exactly what the Mod was for me..

 

It is fine the way it is and it is just going to get better. Consider real life, if you don't eat enough either you will stay hungry or you will get hungry again in a short amount of time. Same with water. Think of it like the fuel tank of a car. If you don't stock it up you'll end up empty quickly. That is how it works in the game and that is why YOU get hungry every "5 mins" because you are not eating enough.

 

I don't understand why you want the health/food/blood system to be dumbed down and be easy mode. This is a survival sim after all.

[Bash Arkin 266]

I don't like the Hunger/Thirst system, it is just something to annoy you and is the same reason why I don't like Project Zomboid. Right now they're just arbitrary pointless systems designed to give you something to do as there is very little content in the game. They aren't even systems you can predict either, sometimes I'll need to eat like every 5 mins and it's like OH FFS! I don't even get why the text comes up to tell you, Breaking Point for ARMA 3 works perfectly fine just using sound effects. At the same time the Blood system is so broken and convoluted right now that I just don't even bother with it. If I'm low on health, It's quicker and easier to go and commit suicide... I don't see the point of having eating and drinking and a blood system.

 

I'd much rather blood was gone, there was health instead and you had to eat to regain health and thirst was there to reduce the shake after long runs and to keep your stamina up. 

 

In fact that's exactly what the Mod was for me..

 

 

Well if you don't like it clearly it is broken and should be removed.

 

 

 

 

In all seriousness, it is highly predictable i highly doubt you understand how it works all together, and i don't mean this in a insulting way, i really don't.

 

Watch this, and i'll await you're reply.

[DeatHTaX 1217]

It is fine the way it is and it is just going to get better. Consider real life, if you don't eat enough either you will stay hungry or you will get hungry again in a short amount of time. Same with water. Think of it like the fuel tank of a car. If you don't stock it up you'll end up empty quickly. That is how it works in the game and that is why YOU get hungry every "5 mins" because you are not eating enough.

 

I don't understand why you want the health/food/blood system to be dumbed down and be easy mode. This is a survival sim after all.

 

while we're at it let's take out the zombies and running because it's super inconvenient :P

 

trolol

[Monkfish (DayZ) 339]

1) Not understanding how the health system works is not reason to have it removed.

2) Go and watch Merino's excellent guides on how the health system works.

3) Quit your yapping.

4) Beans.

[Etherimp 1323]

It is fine the way it is and it is just going to get better. Consider real life, if you don't eat enough either you will stay hungry or you will get hungry again in a short amount of time. Same with water. Think of it like the fuel tank of a car. If you don't stock it up you'll end up empty quickly. That is how it works in the game and that is why YOU get hungry every "5 mins" because you are not eating enough.

 

I don't understand why you want the health/food/blood system to be dumbed down and be easy mode. This is a survival sim after all.

 

 

It could be argued that the current health/food system is actually pretty easy-mode.. they're in the process (as far as I understand) of making it much harder.. As soon as water purification tablets are necessary and infection is implemented, expect a large % of this community to go back to Battlefield and CoD.

[DeatHTaX 1217]

It could be argued that the current health/food system is actually pretty easy-mode.. they're in the process (as far as I understand) of making it much harder.. As soon as water purification tablets are necessary and infection is implemented, expect a large % of this community to go back to Battlefield and CoD.

 

I wouldnt mind a much harder system. I mean I'm gonna be honest, I have NEVER been in a situation where I have been dying of thirst or hunger. It's pretty easy to stay afloat. I just find it funny you die of hunger before you die of thirst xD

[Etherimp 1323]

I wouldnt mind a much harder system. I mean I'm gonna be honest, I have NEVER been in a situation where I have been dying of thirst or hunger. It's pretty easy to stay afloat. I just find it funny you die of hunger before you die of thirst xD

 

 

I have, but only on an experimental server that hadn't been restarted in SEVERAL hours and was full for a good majority of that time.. But even then I managed to find a few cans of food here and there and there's always water pumps, so dying of thirst is simply unacceptable.. Once they add animals, maintaining high calories should be pretty easy...

 

Not sure if you played the Mod, but in DayZ Mod vs 1.7.7.1, the infection rate of being hit by zombies was incredibly high, and antibiotics were incredibly rare.. Created an extremely tense environment for everyone.. People would kill others just HOPING that they had antibiotics, and finding someones tent that had 3 anti's stashed in it was a jackpot.

[weedmasta 784]

It could be argued that the current health/food system is actually pretty easy-mode.. they're in the process (as far as I understand) of making it much harder.. As soon as water purification tablets are necessary and infection is implemented, expect a large % of this community to go back to Battlefield and CoD.

 

Yea what I meant by it will get better. ;)

[fundan@gmx.de 82]

Maybe try this:

 

http://www.ponggame.org/

[pugs2300 2]

i like the food/drink/blood system myself...if you eat and drink a bunch when you first spawn to the point where your full its pretty easy to maintain your food/drink level....basically what window licker said.....

[rickenbacker 190]

I don't like the Hunger/Thirst system, it is just something to annoy you and is the same reason why I don't like Project Zomboid. Right now they're just arbitrary pointless systems designed to give you something to do as there is very little content in the game. They aren't even systems you can predict either, sometimes I'll need to eat like every 5 mins and it's like OH FFS! I don't even get why the text comes up to tell you, Breaking Point for ARMA 3 works perfectly fine just using sound effects. At the same time the Blood system is so broken and convoluted right now that I just don't even bother with it. If I'm low on health, It's quicker and easier to go and commit suicide... I don't see the point of having eating and drinking and a blood system.

 

I'd much rather blood was gone, there was health instead and you had to eat to regain health and thirst was there to reduce the shake after long runs and to keep your stamina up. 

 

The hunger/thirst/health system is actually a pretty decent simulation of how a real body works, with some abstractions. And it's very intuitive, once you get it. Eat all you can to store energy, drink to keep your fluid reserves up, and stay healthy to heal your wounds. It's not rocket science. 

[drayson 158]

The only problem I have with the blood system is your blood levels don't regenerate (in my experience) when neither thirsty nor hungry like I have read in multiple places it is supposed to.

 

Not to mention that once you stop the bleeding and eat and drink in real life, your body does this thing where it starts making more red blood cells and plasma :P

You guys need to do some research. The warnings that say hungry and thirsty are at the bottom of the barrell. You need to keep eating till it says full, then you regenerate blood and health pretty fast. Eat everything you find till you get the stuffed status. Once all has been regenerated you get a Healthy tag.